j-specfd3s? BEWARE = problems with item purchased!
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I do have proof, a witness that was in the car while i was driving it with the ecu in question, unplugging it and putting it in a box. You say return him his money its the right thing to do.... Your telling me you sell someone a chipped ecu that works perfect, they get it and say its now broken and you refund them there money and recieve a broken ecu that wasnt when you shipped it. That ******* retarded... If i hadnt verified that it worked perfect i would not have a problem refunding him his money back, but thats not the case it was ran in my car with not 1 problem and then put in a box and shipped. I am not going to refund him anything period and thats the end of it, i shipped him a good ecu, he recieved it and now its broken. Whats messed up is that this was going to replace his "bad" ecu, and now mine is "bad" and his original "bad" ecu is now good.
ECUs especially, though, because it's near impossible to tell if they're dead or not. I bought one from a pretty dependable place for my Miata (mazdarecycling.com), and guess what? It was DOA. Lucky for me they had a replacement on hand.
Good luck on finding a solution though, guys. To me it seems like neither one of you are trying to get over on anyone...Just bad luck, I guess.
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Just to veritfied that the package was not damage or abused in any way when I receive it. Either the seller is lying (obvious) or me (too retarded)
to install the ecu. Notice how him and hid friend claim they're running 18psi on this chipped ecu and on stock injectors. I don't know where you come from but I max my injectors running 17psi with 1300cc secondary with a PFC. So either I'm retarded or these 2 are blowing something out their asses. You'll be the judge on who is lying?
BTW: I really hate scammer and especially stupid ones.
to install the ecu. Notice how him and hid friend claim they're running 18psi on this chipped ecu and on stock injectors. I don't know where you come from but I max my injectors running 17psi with 1300cc secondary with a PFC. So either I'm retarded or these 2 are blowing something out their asses. You'll be the judge on who is lying? BTW: I really hate scammer and especially stupid ones.
Last edited by Rx-7Doctor; May 11, 2008 at 10:40 PM. Reason: Removal of insult again
Ok James, End of the insults and personal attacks now or this thread is over.
I see 2 long term members with neither having a tarnished selling history.
Now I have personally sold many ECU's and have always tested them before they went out in personal cars. I have never had an issue.
Unless the installation of the ECU went wrong, IE: Hooked up battery cables wrong or shorted something, took apart ECU or there is a short in the wiring harness then the ECU should work. As far as getting damaged in shipping, who can say?
Now I am not going to tell jspec how to handle this but give some recommendations.
You can refund 1/2 of his money and request the ECU be shipped back to you then check it in your car. You can also examine it for tampering and or damage. Then if it is bad then refund all of money except shipping.
Or you can figure out a resolve between the both of you.
I'm sorry but this is not a cut and dry case here. The seller has a witness that states it was good when it was shipped.
The buyer has stated that it would not rev past 3800 RPM then not past 5000 RPM.
I see 2 long term members with neither having a tarnished selling history.
Now I have personally sold many ECU's and have always tested them before they went out in personal cars. I have never had an issue.
Unless the installation of the ECU went wrong, IE: Hooked up battery cables wrong or shorted something, took apart ECU or there is a short in the wiring harness then the ECU should work. As far as getting damaged in shipping, who can say?
Now I am not going to tell jspec how to handle this but give some recommendations.
You can refund 1/2 of his money and request the ECU be shipped back to you then check it in your car. You can also examine it for tampering and or damage. Then if it is bad then refund all of money except shipping.
Or you can figure out a resolve between the both of you.
I'm sorry but this is not a cut and dry case here. The seller has a witness that states it was good when it was shipped.
The buyer has stated that it would not rev past 3800 RPM then not past 5000 RPM.
To give a short story on how well we trust one another...
For the record, I do know James (in real life)... He's never once struck me as a guy who is out to lie,cheat or steal for personal gain (or any reason). I'd come to defend him without knowing the whole story as he's never once done anything shady that I know of.
I live over two hours away from him, made a trip up to visit him and had a terrible accident which left my SUV underivable (hit a full size deer at 75mph/80mph). He came and got me at 2am then handed me the key to the FD we tuned that night as well as handed me gas-money for the trip home (2.5hr drive).
James is a stand up guy, he's not out to scam anyone, I can attest to that.
You guys should really meet in the middle on this and both find a route to walk away happy. $65 shouldn't be a big deal on either sides here - so what gives?
Don't have anything to add except this:
If I sold a person an ECU because they said theirs was bad, they got it, and all of a sudden came back and said that the one I sent was bad, but theirs had miraculously started working again, I'd definitely suspect the old switcheroo.
If I sold a person an ECU because they said theirs was bad, they got it, and all of a sudden came back and said that the one I sent was bad, but theirs had miraculously started working again, I'd definitely suspect the old switcheroo.
exactly, i dont feel i should refund him anything and i am not going too. The ecu was working when shipped (witness) and it was packaged well and i dont see how it could of gotten damaged during shipping ( but i guess it's possible, pass by a magnet or something). Either it was damaged during install or shipping. Like i stated earlier if i had not tested the ecu before shipping i would have no problem refunding the money (i wouldnt know the working condtion of the ecu) but thats not the case, i did test it and verified that it worked fine. Hwnd if you do know james in person then excuse me for the asumption that i made. Wiether he knows how to install a ecu or not thats not the point, something happened during shipping or install, could have been something over looked during install, but there was no issue when shipped.
Don't have anything to add except this:
If I sold a person an ECU because they said theirs was bad, they got it, and all of a sudden came back and said that the one I sent was bad, but theirs had miraculously started working again, I'd definitely suspect the old switcheroo.
If I sold a person an ECU because they said theirs was bad, they got it, and all of a sudden came back and said that the one I sent was bad, but theirs had miraculously started working again, I'd definitely suspect the old switcheroo.
Couldn't get away with that unless he too had the same type/style/etc chipped ecu right?
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exactly, i dont feel i should refund him anything and i am not going too. The ecu was working when shipped (witness) and it was packaged well and i dont see how it could of gotten damaged during shipping ( but i guess it's possible, pass by a magnet or something). Either it was damaged during install or shipping. Like i stated earlier if i had not tested the ecu before shipping i would have no problem refunding the money (i wouldnt know the working condtion of the ecu) but thats not the case, i did test it and verified that it worked fine. Hwnd if you do know james in person then excuse me for the asumption that i made. Wiether he knows how to install a ecu or not thats not the point, something happened during shipping or install, could have been something over looked during install, but there was no issue when shipped.
Why don't you take rx7doctor's advice and work something out with me. I pm'ed as soon as I notice the problem but it toke you almost 2 month to replied. As for me being a selller I refunded a person's money and told him to keep the FD tranny because he was complaining a small grind between gears. Read up about Slonsho and me, he stole over $1,000 in parts and he sold me a crappy injectors system that's junk. If you're a stand up guy why don't you act like one and work something out?
James dont mean to butt in but if you can use my stock fd computer its yours its the least i can do for a guy thats given me parts and always been a stand up guy.
I dont know the seller so i cant say anything bad about him but James has been a friend for years and i can asure you money is not his motavation in this matter. Please try to reason something out. PS James knows how to install computers!
I dont know the seller so i cant say anything bad about him but James has been a friend for years and i can asure you money is not his motavation in this matter. Please try to reason something out. PS James knows how to install computers!
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James dont mean to butt in but if you can use my stock fd computer its yours its the least i can do for a guy thats given me parts and always been a stand up guy.
I dont know the seller so i cant say anything bad about him but James has been a friend for years and i can asure you money is not his motavation in this matter. Please try to reason something out. PS James knows how to install computers!
I dont know the seller so i cant say anything bad about him but James has been a friend for years and i can asure you money is not his motavation in this matter. Please try to reason something out. PS James knows how to install computers!

I'm not aware of what goes into a "chipped" ECU but should it be something pretty visable that had been soldered on? I might be swinging in left field here but it's just a thought to verify that it is in fact the same ECU that would be returned. I'm not on one side or the other as I can see how frusterating it could be from either point of view. It's just right thing to do is what I can't really figure out.
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I'm not aware of what goes into a "chipped" ECU but should it be something pretty visable that had been soldered on? I might be swinging in left field here but it's just a thought to verify that it is in fact the same ECU that would be returned. I'm not on one side or the other as I can see how frusterating it could be from either point of view. It's just right thing to do is what I can't really figure out.
James is good buisness all is the way. If I am not mistaken he still has stacks of good used ecu's laying around so the switch a roo would be pointless. James has alot more money than to scam someone out of $65.
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