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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 12:35 PM
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If you decide you need a Good S4 used Turbo.. LMK.. I have a few of them.. all pulled from low mile Jspec motors.. Minimal to no shaft play and ofcourse low miles..
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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by iceblue
I just talked to Steve. He will join this thread when he gets home.
ice, with all due respect to you, that is not a good idea.

for one thing, he was banned from this forum, him coming back under a different name is not allowed anyways.

Second, one of the reasons why he was banned is because he cannot maturely handle this kind of situation. The last thread about him, started by a member who received broken parts, turned into gonzz threatening to throw down and daring people to talk to him face to face at rotary meets so he could shut them up. He was caught changing his story and lying, and refused to address any of it. When asked by everyone about how he was caught lying, no matter who asked him or how they worded their question, all he could respond with was some pathetic tough guy wannabe-gangsta routine, and nothing got solved. To this day, that buyer is out his money and time, and gonzz was banned for both his refusal to handle his screwups and the way he put all his effort into insulting people and trying to be billy badass. He isnt capable, looking at his performance in these threads, of maturely handling this situation. And since he was already banned once for this stuff, coming back a second time really isnt going to solve anything.

Honestly, if he would just talk to his customer, and resolve this maturely, that is all anyone wants. Last time, he thought it was a better use of his time to talk **** about someone's dead father and repeatedly turn a feedback thread into "you probably dont even own a car, you probably ride a huffy...." and "come talk **** to my face and see what I do to you about it". We dont need more of that crap here.
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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 06:32 PM
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Steve - The turbo came off a engine I had. It had a little play. Totally useable.. Why hasn’t he contacted me? He has said nothing to me?

Me - Acording to him the shaft moves in and out and its compleatly a non usable turbo. And the shaft should never have in and out play that immediately dictates a bad turbo.
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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 07:57 PM
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Ice I sent him several ims on aim on he didnt respond, that turbo is junk. Im not a newb I can tell if a turbo is bad or not, It has massive shaft play in and out. Another funny story, he sent me an email yesterday and said that he would go to ups and find out whats goin on for me...........hahahaa too bad he sent it out from DHL. WOW
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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by gxl87turbo
Ice I sent him several ims on aim on he didnt respond, that turbo is junk. Im not a newb I can tell if a turbo is bad or not, It has massive shaft play in and out. Another funny story, he sent me an email yesterday and said that he would go to ups and find out whats goin on for me...........hahahaa too bad he sent it out from DHL. WOW
He sends everything DHL but yet keeps referring to UPS to me as well.

Then stop IM'ing him and email him I never respond to half the IMS you send me.

Why don't you take some calipers and measure the shaft play in and out and up and down and post it for us and email to him. Then see what you get because then no one can argue period.
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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 11:06 PM
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Here you go bud. Steve sent me an email your turbo is in ups hands you should have it. Yes he said the holidays were slowing things a tad and thats ground shipping for you. I wont get into the rest but I trust Steves word and he has never lied to me. So keep me posted on what happens and try getting in contact wtih him again. He knows you talked to me.
Please note--this post was made on 1/6/08. Here's what the buyer has to say:

So I got the turbo today, I opened up the package and theres the s4 turbo I bought. He told me it was in good usable condition with no play. I know for a turbo that old a little play is ok. Well this ******* turbo has in and out play like no other, I cant believe this. The turbo is junk period. Second off he receieved the money around 12/13/2007. He told me he shipped it 2 days later, well get this. On the DHL invoice it states that the package was shipped out on 1/7/2008, that was 4 days ago. First he lied about the shipment date, and then I get a junk turbo. Now I cant drive my car for at least another 2 weeks untill I find a turbo. So I suggest I either get my money back, or you find me another "good" turbo and send it. Ive never cheated or lied to anybody about the parts I sell on this forum, check my feedback. Im not saying anything bad about Gonzz, I just want him to fix this mess. I thank roller and iceblue for trying to help me out.
iceblue--this may not be a big deal to you, but this is apparently the first time that gonzz lied to you. He told you on 1/6 that he had already shipped this package. He didnt actually do so until the next day. Things like this have happened with gonzz previously, and whenever asked about it he gets defensive to the point of being impossible to deal with.
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 02:26 PM
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by rx7roller02
Please note--this post was made on 1/6/08. Here's what the buyer has to say:



iceblue--this may not be a big deal to you, but this is apparently the first time that gonzz lied to you. He told you on 1/6 that he had already shipped this package. He didnt actually do so until the next day. Things like this have happened with gonzz previously, and whenever asked about it he gets defensive to the point of being impossible to deal with.
Well I wont take sides but I do think the truth needs to be told on both sides instead of only one side and the truth seems to be bent on both sides. I mean heck I am taking time out of my day to try and make something come out of this situation for no reason.

The payment was not to Gonzz the 13th according to my paper work from paypal from Steve he received it the 19th. Steve also held onto the turbo and waited for the payment for a month prior to payment being sent. Nor has he contacted Steve 1 time about this. In all fairness AIM does not count I have told him to send him an email immediately days ago.

Dec. 19, 2007 Payment From Caner Yildiz Completed Details
https://www.paypalobjects.com/WEBSCR.../scr/pixel.gif
$10.00 USD -$0.59 USD $9.41 USD $9.41 USD

At this date a MO was sent to Steve as mentioned where Steve then waited according to him " I would have to" for the MO to clear.

After this date the package was shipped.

So everyone seems to have fibbed on the dates! Go figure!

Personally giving the outline from Steve I don't think the shipping was really all that delayed I can understand that but there should have not been any lies in the first place because that just hurts your own case.


So at this point Steve faltered a bit on the shipping but went out of his way for GXL. Now if the turbo is indeed bad and Steve claims it is good. Then we either have someone selling bad parts NOT GOOD or we have a clueless seller I doubt this or a insufficiently knowledgeable buyer. I will go back to saying I think GXL needs to prove the condition of the turbo as I posted above to us. As well at and before this point contact Steve. If the turbo is indeed reviewed bad by possibly us or Steve, then we need to see what Steve is will and going to do about it before anymore negative judgment's are passed on either party's.

I believe this is a fair and proper proposal to make. Do you not agree?

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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 06:25 AM
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Well I wont take sides but I do think the truth needs to be told on both sides instead of only one side and the truth seems to be bent on both sides. I mean heck I am taking time out of my day to try and make something come out of this situation for no reason.

The payment was not to Gonzz the 13th according to my paper work from paypal from Steve he received it the 19th. Steve also held onto the turbo and waited for the payment for a month prior to payment being sent. Nor has he contacted Steve 1 time about this. In all fairness AIM does not count I have told him to send him an email immediately days ago.

Dec. 19, 2007 Payment From Caner Yildiz Completed Details
https://www.paypalobjects.com/WEBSCR.../scr/pixel.gif
$10.00 USD -$0.59 USD $9.41 USD $9.41 USD

At this date a MO was sent to Steve as mentioned where Steve then waited according to him " I would have to" for the MO to clear.

After this date the package was shipped.

So everyone seems to have fibbed on the dates! Go figure!
Wrong. You need to read this whole thread. This was already explained. Back on the first page, we see this from GXL:

https://www.rx7club.com/showpost.php...95&postcount=5

I would always talk to him online for hours, I asked if he had a s4 turbo laying around and he said yes for $100 shipped. He sent me pics and I saw the turbo. I didnt have enough in my paypal so I sent him a $90 Us postal money order, then I paypaled him the rest of the $10. He got all of the money, then I kept asking and he would say that the holidays fucked up the shipping but I dont buy that. Heres hes paypal information "goncalves6@***.net and hes name is Steve Goncalves" He kept saying he has a 20b in hes vert, im not sure but maybe somebody can help me out with this ****. thanks
Note--the info you posted about the 19th shows a paypal payment of exactly $10.00 received. This supports what GXL has said all along. So, at this point, the only dishonesty we are seeing is from gonzz.

Further, you posted this email that gonzz sent you:

Steve & Deborah Goncalves
<goncalves6@***.net> Mon, Jan 7, 2008 at 8:22 PM
To: Ice Blue <iceblue.development@gmail.com>

I am currently in LA and will return to Vegas on Friday. If he doesn’t have it then I will go to the shipping place and find out what happened. I sent him two e-mails explaining all this and never got one response. I used the PayPal e-mail address he gave me. Why don’t he contact me ? I don’t understand?? I’ll forward you the e-mail I sent him..
This is the one he sent to GXL, as you posted:

From: Steve & Deborah Goncalves [mailto:goncalves6@***.net]
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 7:41 PM
To: 'gxl87@aol.com'
Subject: FW: Hey bud



You never got the box yet? I am away in cali for a few weeks. I will be back in Vegas on Friday and can find out what’s the deal then.. I tried to get on AIM on my phone but can’t connect with you. I’m sending this from my blackberry phone..
Let me get to my point--he told GXL on 1/6 that he was on CA. He told you the same thing. At the same time, he told both of you that he had shipped the turbo already. You earlier questioned someone in this thread about the tracking number, asking them to use common sense because someone who's out of state wont bring the tracking number with them, am I correct? Then tell me something--how did he ship this turbo out on 1/7? He was "in LA", remember? NO, he wasnt.....because the only way he could have been is if he took the turbo with him in his suitcase to Cali and shipped it from there on 1/7. By his own admission to you, he was not at home on 1/7--he was in CA! Or so he claims....

So, to recap, up to this point, GXL has not been found to be lying about any aspect of this transaction. And gonzz has not been found to be telling the truth about any aspect of this sale. The fact that Steve waited a month before getting paid is not the issue, if they agreed to that then that is a non-factor entirely. The thing is this--payment was received in full by 12/19, and The turbo was not shipped out until nearly three weeks later. And even then, it happened after you joined in to help. If you had not contacted Steve, one can only wonder if it would have been sent out at all to this point! Finally, AOL DOES count, because AIM was used for much of the communication throughout the sale. If it was good enough for Steve to use to get someone to send him money, then why the hell isnt it good enough to use afterwards?? This is nothing more than an excuse in my mind an dnot a very good one at that.

Besides, since we now know that gonzz was not in cali during that time, the excuse he made about not being able to connect with AOL while out there is also bullshit.

Personally giving the outline from Steve I don't think the shipping was really all that delayed I can understand that but there should have not been any lies in the first place because that just hurts your own case.
See above--Steve gave you a timeline that is dishonest on his end. Going off of that for anything will only give you inaccurate results.

So at this point Steve faltered a bit on the shipping but went out of his way for GXL.
No, at this point, Steve got paid exactly as GXL has stated, and then procrastinated in sending the turbo out. Then he lied to both GXL and to you about when it was sent, and made up excuse after excuse why he didnt communicate with his buyer, and made up a story about being in cali to try to cover his *** about not having a tracking number--the real reason he didnt have that number is because he had not even shipped it out yet! And all this from a guy that has never lied to you in the past? Sorry, I have to tell you, he is lying out his *** now. Please understand, I dont blame you in any way in this, I appreciate all the effort you put in, but this guy has done everyone wrong. Its time you recognize what has taken place here.

Now if the turbo is indeed bad and Steve claims it is good. Then we either have someone selling bad parts NOT GOOD or we have a clueless seller I doubt this or a insufficiently knowledgeable buyer. I will go back to saying I think GXL needs to prove the condition of the turbo as I posted above to us. As well at and before this point contact Steve. If the turbo is indeed reviewed bad by possibly us or Steve, then we need to see what Steve is will and going to do about it before anymore negative judgment's are passed on either party's.

I believe this is a fair and proper proposal to make. Do you not agree?
Yes, I do agree. However, in the past, Steve has sold bad turbos before. The last time, he would only allow the buyer to send the turbo to one shop to be checked/rebuilt, and the shop was one close to Steve. The buyer got a price quote from Greddy which was in the same ballpark, and gonzz specifically told him he would not allow that to happen. Dont count on Steve to review this turbo and say it was bad--each time he has been presented with bad parts that he sold before it is ALWAYS someone else's fault. First, he sold a bad turbo, claiming that Greddy rebuilt it a thousand miles ago. He then said "I sold it for a friend, I didnt know the condition of it", even though he advertised it as "amazing condition". Then, he sold FD headlight assemblies that he took off of his own car. Again, perfect shape, but they were broken when the buyer received them. Gonzz, rather than man up, claimed that he sold and sent blue painted assemblies and the broken ones were black, so the buyer "obviously must be trying to pull a fast one". Turns out he knew damn well that these were the same ones he shipped....and when that was shown, he simply stopped answering. That guy never got his money back.

I am not looking for you to take sides--I am looking for you to simply acknowledge the truth as it has come out so far. These facts are not things that can honestly change tomorrow--this is as much as we definitely know right now. And the facts clearly show that Steve has not been honest in any way in this sale.
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 06:29 AM
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GXL--please post for us any info from the package that shows where the turbo was shipped from.
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 09:03 AM
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Roller I agree with you but not with payment and aim. Because he paid him the 19th then MAILD a money order. That is going to be at least a week. And AIM dosnt count because people AIM me countless times and by the time I get back on or to it i lost internet or there not on anymore. So I never get back to them. There needs to be a contact with tracking ability like Email.

I can understand the shipping delay some because I live in BFE but he lives in Vegas im sure theres a shipping point ever .5mi down the road. For me I have to drive 1hr to the shipping store.

About the turbo quality that is why I said to do as I did and show us. No one can change the story around that it is good when creditable people clearly sate the turbo is bad. No offense to GXL at all but right now all anybody including Steve can say is we have Steve saying it is good and some kid saying it's bad. I think we need more and pictures will prove his case.

He may not have ever got the turbo if I didn't get involved I don't know I hope he would have truth be told I don't know you make your own opinion.
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 09:07 AM
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I've read before where turbos show shaft play when off the car, but once they are installed and connected to the oil lines that disappears (meaning the oil pressure in the turbo stops the shaft play, and that it is normal). Not sure if that's true or not - I haven't experienced it myself, but I have read that may be the case sometimes. Good luck to you.
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 06:27 PM
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Roller I agree with you but not with payment and aim. Because he paid him the 19th then MAILD a money order. That is going to be at least a week.
as I understand it the money order was mailed first, and the balance of the total due was sent paypal. Seriously, who would send someone $10 first, and then send nearly the full amount later? Who would take $10 like it was some kind of deposit or something? That simply doesnt make sense. The money order, as it was explained here, was sent on the 13th. The second payment came thru paypal six days later. This is the exact quote that explains this:

I didnt have enough in my paypal so I sent him a $90 Us postal money order, then I paypaled him the rest of the $10.
Clearly, he is saying he sent the money order first, and the amounts make sense that way too. Come on, if you were selling a $100 part, and someone was sending a partial payment, would you even bother accepting a $10 payment first? That doesnt add up to me.

And AIM dosnt count because people AIM me countless times and by the time I get back on or to it i lost internet or there not on anymore. So I never get back to them. There needs to be a contact with tracking ability like Email.
Like I said, AIM was perfectly acceptable to this seller when he used it to take someone's money, wasnt it? That means it is perfectly acceptable to continue using the same already-used form of communication to complete the sale. I dont know about AIM personally, but I can tell you that with yahoo messenger, there is an automatic record of the conversations you have had with people in your contact lists. It automatically archives them. Someone who knows more about AIM can chime in here to say if it does the same or not. But either way, the problem here is this--the seller had no problem using it to take someone's money. And then, when he didnt deliver as he promised, he lied and made up bullshit stories, excuses like "I was in cali at the time and couldnt connect to AIM"....Well, that might have been worth something, until it came to light that he was not actually in CA like he claimed. That tells me that he knew damn well that this buyer was trying to contact him--he knew it in the past and denied it even in the face of emails. So, I have personally witnessed him denying that he received emails that we even saw him reply to! Proof in the form of an email in this case will not do anything to get the seller to handle his business. Ask me how I know....or just look at the other negative threads about him. You will easily get the point.

I can understand the shipping delay some because I live in BFE but he lives in Vegas im sure theres a shipping point ever .5mi down the road. For me I have to drive 1hr to the shipping store.
What really sucks is that you came in here, in good faith, honestly trying to help, and you stuck up for Steve, again in good faith. We appreciate your efforts, believe me! But he left you hanging out to dry because he lied to you. You went to bat for him and vouched for his integrity and he **** on you because of it. That really sucks, and I am sorry to see it. I at least hope you know that we appreciate what you have done, and hope that you also know that no one in any way is blaming you for any of this mess. An honest shipping delay, I can understand. Lying to you and to the buyer, claiming he already sent something when he knew damn well he didnt yet, and then lying about why he hasnt been in contact with the buyer, now that I cannot understand, condone, or excuse. Period. And that's exactly what has taken place here. Again, thanks for all your help and sorry to see you getting **** on like that.

About the turbo quality that is why I said to do as I did and show us. No one can change the story around that it is good when creditable people clearly sate the turbo is bad. No offense to GXL at all but right now all anybody including Steve can say is we have Steve saying it is good and some kid saying it's bad. I think we need more and pictures will prove his case.
I couldnt agree more. A third party, such as a reputable shop, is my best recommendation--a shop that is known and respected among this forum, perhaps. Someone who is not attached to either side of this debate. That would be even more conclusive, in my mind, than pictures of anything. But either way we do need to see more about this turbo.

He may not have ever got the turbo if I didn't get involved I don't know I hope he would have truth be told I don't know you make your own opinion.
I agree again. if you had not gotten involved, who knows how many more lies we would have heard....
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 07:32 PM
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Yes I did send the money order first, which takes 2-3 days. I sent it priority, then the day he got the money order, HE AIMED ME because I was $10 short. He about flipped out, then I told him its only $10 Ill paypal it, and I did. I just didnt have enough for it the day I sent the money order. Check my Feedback, I ******* DROVE TO TEXAS FROM OHIO TO DELIEVER A DASH, YEA A DASH. THATS ******* AMAZING FOR A SELLER TO DO THAT. IM NOT JUST SOME ******* KID, IVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A WHILE NOW. IM NOT GOING TO LET ANYBODY SIT THERE AND TELL ME IM A KID BC MR GONZZ SAYS THE TURBO IS GOOD. IF THE TURBO WAS GOOD, WHY THE **** WOULD I WASTE MY TIME TYPING THIS WHEN I COULD BE DRIVING MY CAR??????????????????????????


I HAVE NEWS PEOPLE

THIS TURBO HAS SOOOO MUCH SHAFT PLAY, IT WOULD MAKE IT FROM MY ROOM TO ******* FRANCE.



Who can I trust to send this turbo to? That way somebody else can see wtf Im talking about. WOW thanks!
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 07:36 PM
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Roller the address that the turbo was shipped from is

ROTARY ARE US
S. Goncalves
1008 Copper Moon Lane
North Las Vegas, NV 89031
USA Phone: 702-307-9490
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 08:09 PM
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Ice, you want me to send this guy an email? Look how he just gets out of this whole deal by saying "*** u" on aim.


AT LEAST I CAN SPELL " ****"


GXL87: hey
gonzz01: *** u
GXL87: what?
GXL87: u sent me a bad turbo
GXL87: it has ******* in and out play like no other
GXL87: dont sit there and say **** you to me
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 08:11 PM
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I dont think posting his private information on here is a good idea. I dont think this has anything to do with the RX7 club as this whole thing took place out side of the forum as he no longer is member.
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by gxl87turbo
Roller the address that the turbo was shipped from is

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1008 Copper Moon Lane
North Las Vegas, NV 89031
USA Phone: 702-307-9490
proof positive right there that he sent that from Vegas when he claimed he was in Cali....why am I not surprised...
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by John64
I dont think posting his private information on here is a good idea. I dont think this has anything to do with the RX7 club as this whole thing took place out side of the forum as he no longer is member.
agreed on the personal info, better not to post it up. As for the sale, I am not so sure. Yes, it took place off the forum, but the forum's members seem to still be his target audience, and since he is selling rx7-specific parts in many cases I think that people here still need to be aware of who he is and how he does things.
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 09:13 PM
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post pics or a video showing the shaft play. it may be hard to do so, but you could see if you can get it to work.
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 09:53 PM
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Rotary Are Us? This guy has a shop???
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 12:28 AM
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just some f**ked UP Sh*T just exposing his personal info

well i have talk to steve couple hours ago and this is what he wants meeh to post

"Steve's attorney is gonna have a blast on the owner of this forum"
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 12:35 AM
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rx7roller for ur info about him claiming to be in cali yes he was and the lv address that was the f**KING return address duhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! dude im really tired of this non sense this is between him and gxl i don't why u all gotta join to bash on someone when theres a problem just let them two to handle it
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 01:14 AM
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kolokoi sounds like steve with only five post too could it be. a blast lol funny rips people off now he wants to blast sounds like a douche.
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Kolokoi
rx7roller for ur info about him claiming to be in cali yes he was and the lv address that was the f**KING return address duhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! dude im really tired of this non sense this is between him and gxl i don't why u all gotta join to bash on someone when theres a problem just let them two to handle it
Grab some popcorn cause somebody is going to get owned.
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