Toms93FD

On December 30, 2006, Gonzz posted a Greddy T78 turbo kit for sale. Having had my eye on this kit for some time, I repsonded to his post immediately letting him know I was very interested in the kit. I told him that I was a bit short on funds and asked if he would hold it for me for several days. Gonzz had no problem doing so and was very helpful. Before I sent him any money though, I gave him a call to go over the state of the turbo verbally. He did inform me that at one point an apex seal did go through the turbo, but had since been repaired by Greddy (as stated in the posts.) He also mentioned that this kit was off one of his friend's cars. I took his word for it and told him we were good to go. I did however find it odd that he was selling a turbo kit from his "friends" car who also had an RX7. Why wouldn't his friend do it himself? I sent him half down, then sent him the other half a couple days later. As soon as he recieved the second half of the payment, he said he would ship the kit out right away. He did as he said and I had it in about 5 days or so. I took a couple of parts out of the boxes to make sure nothing appeared damaged, everything appeared to be ok at first. I'd been extremely busy with work and school, so I didn't have much time to go over it extensively until almost a week after it had arrived. When I did finally had the chance to pull everything out of the boxes, I wasn't happy at all with what I had recieved. I was indeed sent a blown turbo. As first posted by Gonzz, he stated that the turbo was rebuilt by Greddy with less than 1,000 miles. This was far from. The wheel was bent and chipped, and the housing had a crack in it, and the wholen inside of the turbo was covered with oil. On top of that, the back side of the intercooler was bent up. I realize that's not a big deal, but that fact is, I was told it, along with all other products were in perfect condition.

Here is the link to the post for the T78 kit that Gonzz initiated:
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=609716

I immediately called Gonzz so I could try and go over with him what I had recieved. He never answered, so I sent him an e-mail explaining the situation. He replied to the e-mail saying that he would get in touch with his friend to let him know what was going on. Gonzz appeared to have no idea that he'd sent me a bad kit. As the next couple of weeks went by, it was nothing but a hassle every day to try and get in touch with Gonzz about it. It seemed when it was convenient, he would call me back only to fish me the same story as the time before. I told him that all I wanted was my money back, and I'd be happy. He said he let his friend know and try to figure something out. The next time I talked to him, he said his friend had spent the money, and was going to try and borrow it from his parents. I agreed to give it some more time and let it be for another day or so. After a couple of days of hearing nothing, I contacted Gonzz again only for him to tell me that his friend would only pay to have the turbo rebuilt, nothing else. I told him that I was tired of messing around and if that's what we need to do to get things rolling, then that would be fine. Gonzz gave me the name (which I won't mention) for a shop in California that works on turbos. I called them and they wouldn't warranty anything for me on that turbo. Why in my right mind would I want to go with them? At this point I asked Gonzz for his friend's number at which Gonzz replied, "umm no, he doesn't have a phone." I think it would be safe to say at this point that there was no "friend" to begin with? Anywho, I contacted Greddy to see what their rebuild prices were, and they were going to charge $500-$600 to have the turbo rebuilt. I let Gonzz know Greddy's price, which was comparible to that of his shop. He wasn't interested. At that point, he said he would only ship the turbo to this certain shop, no where else. Now I was beginning to lose my patience a bit. I told Gonzz if that's the way it was going to be, then I have no problem filing any type of legal action. He replied by saying, "oh, well actually my friend's going to be moving in about 3 weeks or so." Now obviously trying to hide something, I told him that was fine, I didn't care, and that he would be the one I delt with considering he was the one who sold me the faulty kit. At this point he began to lose it. He went off about a bunch of non-sense. I'd love to post it up here, but I don't have any proof to back it up. Below here is an e-mail between us of the aftermath. Sorry but they're posted from bottom to top in order.

From : Steve & Deborah Goncalves <goncalves6@***.net>
Sent : Tuesday, January 23, 2007 4:10 PM
To : "'Tommy Ploski'" <tploski@hotmail.com>
Subject : RE: T78 Kit

I totally agree .. He told me some bad info and that's not cool. I left him
a message and am waiting on his reply. The intercooler fins just need to be
straightened. A shop doesn't have to do it.. Peole use needle nose pliers..
When I get a reply from this guy I will call you. Send me your # in a
e-mail.. thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: Tommy Ploski [mailto:tploski@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 9:35 PM
To: goncalves6@***.net
Subject: RE: T78 Kit

Again, I'm sorry it took me so long to contact you on this. I honestly
hadn't had a chance to really look at it. I haven't been lazy and
procrastinating contacting you, I just didn't know until now about the
damage. I realize you're the middle and I don't want to sound like a jerk,
but that was a lot of money to shell out for something that doesn't even
work. I MIGHT be willing to work something out with you on the intercooler,
the fins are fixable. I'm going to talk to the guy working on my car about
another turbo set up. As far as this turbo. I just want my money back. I've
tried calling you a couple times thinking it might be easier to talk about
this but haven't gotten through.

>From: "Steve & Deborah Goncalves" <goncalves6@***.net>
>To: "'Tommy Ploski'" <tploski@hotmail.com>
>Subject: RE: T78 Kit
>Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 17:37:31 -0800
>
>I am contacting the guy who had this kit. I was just relaying what was
>he was telling me. He asked me to sell this kit for him which I did. I
>didn't even make a penny on the deal. The crazy thing is I waited 7
>days for you to respond to make sure everything was good and got no
>response so I gave hime the cash. I will get a hold of him this week to
>resolve this.. Give me a few days to do this.. He is a fair person and
>will return your $$ or get it rebuilt for you at his expense. I'll let
>you know as soon as I contact him..
>Sorry for this issue.. I hate when I get caught in the middle of ****
>like this.. Thanks for the pics also. I will show him the hot side pics..
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Tommy Ploski [mailto:tploski@hotmail.com]
>Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 8:55 PM
>To: goncalves6@***.net
>Subject: T78 Kit
>
>You told me that an apex seal went through this turbo and it was
>repaired by Greddy. Without a doubt an apex seal went through this
>turbo and it definately WAS NOT repaired . The fins are bent and don't
>clearance so therefore they grind against the walls. Leaving it no good
>to me. The housing appears to have a crack in it and is full of oil.
>The intercooler has many bent fins which is fixable, but definately not
>worth what I paid.
>It took me a while to get to you on this because I've been crazy busy with
>school and haven't had a chance to actually sit down and take a good
>look at it until now.


Here are pictures from the kit that I took after I had recieved it.











All in all, I paid $2575.00 for this kit. None of it is any good to me as of now, and I have a car sitting in the shop waiting to be finished. Now I have to come up with the money again to map out sometime else. Don't let this happen to you guys. Thanks for your time.

Tommy

J-Rat

iTrader: (2)

Wow... Simply wow...

2a+RoN

I saw the turbo at azrr and glen told me about the situation.. Soo sorry to hear that.

dbragg

iTrader: (7)

tom, youre way off. the messd up fins ADD horsepower...duh! wish you the best of luck.

xrotaryguy

Man, that sucks! Hopefully this can be resolved with out you having to take too much of a loss in the end. Damn inconvenient for you to have your car down for so long. Hopefully the loaners you've been driving don't need to be returned soon. You know, you could always just buy a car like THIS ONE :-D

dbragg

iTrader: (7)

tom, i just read the post closer. apparently to gonzz "perfect condition"and "amazing condition" can mean sooo many different things as proved in the past.

if gonzz is the one you sent the money to, then gonzz is the one responsible for handling the situation, not his "friend."

Toms93FD

Oh ya I know. The next step though is legal action.

Toms93FD

This kit is now up for sale. Obviously at a reduced price for anyone who wants to rebuild a turbo?

socalrotor

iTrader: (1)

I saw him at guitarjunkies funeral..... I wish I saw this before.

gonzz

This issue has been resolved. He will be posting in a few hours after he get's out of school he said.. I just got back from cali and Dave's funeral late yesterday.. This was not my turbo kit. I trusted someone and was lied to about the condition. I took care of it from my own pocket and will get the money from the guy myself. I am not the type of person that would sell a bad turbo kit that i knew was blown. More to come..

Toms93FD

I did recieve payment from Gonzz for $550.

prjct87rx7

iTrader: (7)

maybe a mod should close this thread then>?

mirabile

Gonz, repect that you took care of the situation. Tom, you should have gotten very detailed pictures before buying something like that. You would have had a VERY hard time getting anything back legally, especially after the time period that elapsed. All he would need to say was that you broke it.

finnicky7

Wow, a happy end in GG/BG!

iceblue

I have to say I find this very very odd. I have dealt and continue to deal with Steve for quite some time and he has been an extremely reputable person to deal with and has also taken cash out of pocket to refund me on bad parts that I received from one of his friends’ behalf’s. I am sorry to hear this and glad to see it resolved. Steve really is a great seller and guy to deal with.

gonzz

Yah i should have inspectd the turbo real good on this deal. On the intercooler the entire thing on both sides were perfect except for a 2" X 4" section (which you could bend). Of course he took a pic of that small section only...The pictures i sent him had the same thing on it. He told me it's ok. Gredy charged 525.00 to rebuld it so he ended up with a 0 mile rebuilt greddy T78 turbo kit.. Thanks for all the compliments on my part. I have sold tons of things here and i guess not eveyone is happy no matter what you do... Enough said...

Toms93FD

There was never a picture sent of the bent fins on the core, and Greddy said they would charge $500-$600 for the rebuild. I ended up having to part everything out and lost $500.

rynberg

Sounds like Gonzz is a straight up guy but too trusting of friends. Why couldn't the friend just sell it himself?

Gonzz, if you don't like getting caught in the middle of these things, here's some advice. Don't. It's that simple. When you sell something, YOU are responsible for the condition of it, whether it came from your friend or not. It is YOUR responsibility to verify the condition of the part before sending it. If you do not want this responsibility then don't sell parts for friends. Simple solution.

gonzz

Don't say you lost 500.00 on this deal. Because that is a fat *** lie.. You decided to part it out. It was your choice.. You could have sent it in like you told me yo was doing..and had a 0 mile Greddy T78 from Greddy......

gonzz

He asked me to sell it becase i sell alot of items on here.. I sell stuff fast and get a fair price for stuff.. The first thing people on this forum say about someone with less than 100 posts is that they are trying to scam someone.. It happens on here everyday.. Kinda sad but that's the way it is..

Toms93FD

Well, I sure as hell can add. And I lost $500 on this. While you and your "friend" were busy not cooperating with me, I had no choice but to order a new turbo and parts not knowing what I was going to do with what I had.

dbragg

iTrader: (7)

sorry to see this happened to you tom. good sellers go bad sometimes, trust me, i know from personal experience.

if you couldnt get a response/action in a timely matter it was obvious you had no choice but to find another turbo/set up. i would have tried to contact steve's "friend" via phone to discuss the matter with him. maybe that way you could get answers that werent hearsay. even though that may have gotten you better answers, steve was still responsible in this case due to the fact steve is the one you sent the money to, not his "friend."

although, if you werent pushed for time/cash maybe you should have thought about rebuilding the turbo then selling it. maybe you wouldnt have lost so much. there are many factors that could have prevented you from ebing able to do so though.

we all have to learn the hard way sometimes. good luck with everything in the future.

FJDRX7

iTrader: (32)

Gonzz is a good guy, never have probl with him

mar3

iTrader: (8)

He asked me to sell it becase i sell alot of items on here.. I sell stuff fast and get a fair price for stuff.. The first thing people on this forum say about someone with less than 100 posts is that they are trying to scam someone

And there's a damn good reason why BATMAN came up with that Forum gem. This very thread is just more proof it's TRUE.

Don't be an enabler next time...if the chump doesn't have 100+ posts, don't become a middle man for the scammer...

timothyandygoh

bump, had a more recent transaction with him which messed up terribly due to HIS PACKAGING, and him CLAIMING i didn't WANT insurance.

lies. 1 he didn't ask, 2 he didn't offer.

he said shipped, and by forum rules, it also states that he is suppoused to insure the goods.

apparently, lately all these random good guy posts about gonzz have been popping up.

scandalous imo, and yes i'll say it once more. be a man and fix ur errors, and i'll say ur a good guy. and till then, ur just somone who's using others to cover up ur mistakes.

even saints make mistakes, but ur jsut plain denying and shirking all responsibility from the fact that u messed up. BE A MAN correct your mistakes.