Jason94Cobra

Seems to me that if he's allowed to post his "point of view" in a manner that attacks the integrity of someone then we should all be allowed to post our "point of view" of him...

I suppose that is too much "eye for an eye"

You can always ban me if it makes you feel more powerful...

chiquirx7

iTrader: (7)

about his ebay feedback he not the first or the last guy I will give a neg feedback
Thanks doc even if I prove him wrongs he still not going to do me right. Like I said he could keep the 25 I was just warring the member here but it look like they do not need my help they could judge him for them self
This guy did not visit the site in almost 4 years and would not answer email for the past 2 year what you want me to do.. It not about the 25 is the fact this guy lied to me.and i did the job right i pick up a new one
English is his second language and writers strike are not the best but I would go out of my way to help any one

The AntiRice

I've bought and sold things to cloud in the past, never had any instances where he's been shady, easiest seller I've dealt with to be honest

This is a retarded thread

djessence

This appears to be precisely about $25 otherwise it would not be brought up over and over and over again. I am sure everyone here has lost 25$ at some point or another.

THAT said, I do not condone transactions like that. That also being said in your sig is a little extreme. Was the $25 a shipping fee. Becuase normally for any return shipping is NEVER refunded, because that is money out of pocket.

It seems that Cloud did not try and rip anyone off, and paypal clearly thought the matter closed and not that $24 mysteriously disappeared.

As well, you have not provided much evidence in the thread about anything other than quoting emails without copy/pasting them in. (or at least excerps)

And saying he is not the first or last person you will give negative feedback to has absolutely no bearing on this thread. He mentioned his ebay feedback as evidence he is a good seller. You make it sound like you are a pessimist on a rampage willing to give out bad feedback like its nobodys business.

Furthermore, the transaction was over 2 years ago and not on this forum. Sure it affects people here but they seem to like him as a buyer/seller, he is not a scammer it would appear. Scammers take your money. period. You got a product, you thought it was faulty when it seems there is a good possibility it was not. Disputed it with ebay/paypal, got 4/5ths of your money back (potentially lost shipping costs-details?) and then proceeded to bitch about it for 2 years. Come on.

Therefore in my opinion this thread should not exist on this forum. You gave him his bad feedback on ebay. Maybe he had a bad sale. Everyone does. It sucks, but from various people and feedback doesnt appear to be a scam artist.

I find it a little hard to deal with when all you (and somewhat cloud although he at least has proven he does have records of emails that could be sent to the mods) are allegations (photos dont work anymore).

Sorry for the long windedness.

chiquirx7

iTrader: (7)

like i said 9999 it not about the 25 just warring the member here this guy is here selling parts but here is some prove this is wend i send him some pic and he ask me to take it to radiator shop.


this is wend he said he will give me I refund after he got feedback
do i need to post more proof he can keep the 25 it not going to make me or brake and if you rip me off you will get neg feedback

rx7roller02

look, you need to pay attention to this post, seriously, and give this ridiculous crusade up.

A radiator shop CANNOT tell you with any certainty if there are microscopic stress cracks in that thing. ALL THEY CAN TELL YOU is if it holds pressure or not. AND, since we know for a fact that you didnt change the washers on it, we DO know that THOSE were a definite source of a leak. A leak also means pressure loss. SO, here's what happened to this part.

you took it to the shop. They hooked it up while it still had the old washers on it. They then pressurized it, and to no one's surprise but yours, it didnt hold pressure. OF COURSE IT DIDNT--YOU DID NOT CHANGE THE WASHERS AS YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO.

Now, are you next going to try to tell me that this radiator shop x-rayed this part to see if it had cracks? If they cannot be seen with the naked eye, then they cannot tell you with any clue whatsoever that it has cracks. So get a clue and get the hell over this already. They tested a part with leaking, old, used crush washers, which is all but guaranteed to leak, and WOW, they found that it leaked pressure!!!

Thats like getting a flat tire, then wondering why it wont hold air...."I just dont understand it, I mean I took out the three nails that were stuck in it, why wont it inflate???"

Seriously, man, I tried to be as polite to you as I could stand, but you are bashing this guy because you decided that spending three dollars on a pair of washers was not necessary, despite being told that you need them. THAT IS NO ONE'S FAULT BUT YOURS. What you should do is simply be thankful that he chose to refund you anything--not that I think he shouldnt have but there are plenty of REAL scammers around these parts that would have simply told you to get bent, if they told you anything at all. STOP whining about this guy being a scammer, crook, thief, or whatever else youre gonna call him and give it a rest. He didnt scam you any more than I did, and I have never done business with you.

OK, now look closely here. This needs to be addressed. You are here making all sorts of accusations about someone's character. And, when a moderator asked you to send him any PMs or emails you have that show cloud making the promises you say he lied about in this thread, you deliver nothing. Nothing but an excuse. Here--heres another one:

I would LOVE to know how you claim he emailed you and told you he would refund your money of you got a shop to test it, if he didnt answer your emails in the last two years. Now youre just contradicting yourself here. First you say he told you he would refund your money--the only way he could have told you that is if he's been answering you. Now, youre saying he didnt answer emails for the two years since this happened. Which is true? They both cannot be true. And to think, youre the one accusing him of lying? Sorry, but you arent making any sense.

Where I come from, if you cannot prove an accusation like this, you dont make it. This far, the only thing you have done is insult a seller that, both on here and on ebay, has a perfect reputation, not one bad deal, until you decided not to put the proper new crush washers on the part before using it. Even after you were told this, you still didnt bother. So, you spent $475 on a new oil cooler? Why? You more than likely could have been done with spending $3 instead. You have insulted the hell out of him, without one shred of proof of any of your claims. You havent proved one claim about him, not one. So, again, either furnish proof here of the claims youre making or stop making the claims. And while youre at it, you can explain how he was communicating this "refund offer" to you while you now claim he was ignoring you.

Then, you post this:

yet you didnt provide this proof to him or to us here. If you did what you claimed, why didnt anyone ever see proof? All you showed were your pictures, and they in fact showed a completely different story than what you claimed they did.

Then you post this:

I would like for you to do me a favor in the interest of fairness. Could you please forward those two emails to me at skydivr7673@yahoo.com ? I would like to see them.

Jason94Cobra

I think a lot of us would like to see them since cloud can write better than the last email he "quoted"

Clowd speeks bedder Engrish than this... ^

dumbkid

I have delt with cloud numerous times over the past 5+ years, on multiple forums for many different types of parts, mostly mustang and rx7 parts. NEVER have i had anything near a bad experience or a shred of dishonesty. good seller, good guy.

rx7roller02

I was thinking the same thing. It just doesnt match up with the way we have seen cloud type everything else.

oh, and when you send that email, would you please do so including the full header? That would be much appreciated.