d k

So you took the car off the market on other sites, but the site that has the highest amount of enthusiasts and the highest likelihood of selling - you didn't update the thread?


I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels that you are fishing...


Why don't you just do the right thing and give me my money back? Wouldn't that be easier than back pedaling 24hrs a day?

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iTrader: (5)

The right thing was to go through with the deal you started.

Now the post was up on many sites and updated when the car was actually sold. When I deposit was taken I did not accept other offers (as you should had not looked for other cars - but you did). After a deal was completed the appropriate updates were made.

I have done what I feel is right, I made no threatening phone calls to you saying you needed to go through with the deal. Accept the situation you created and move on.

rx7roller02

OK, now THAT is a lie. I asked you repeatedly about the claim of losing storage, and you have not said one word about it until this post.....thats one example. Another example is when I asked you about the email. Go back and read the written record that is this thread. I asked you about the email. Your response made absolutely no mention of any email. so I asked you again. You then finally said that there was one. Are you seriously going to sit there and lie to me now?? Because the posts in this thread do not lie, they are public record for all to see.


See above, you've skipped a lot more than that.


The attached links make it clear that in the event of the seller's nonperformance, you do NOT get to keep the money. You told him "a couple days", you say. Twice that time went by without so much as a word from you. Stop making excuses because you are incorrect about this assumption of innocence.

He asked for more, and you agreed to provide it. That is not at all about what is REQUIRED. It is about what you AGREED TO. And you failed to live up to it. Again, stop making excuses.

No, it was VERBALLY conveyed, according to you, that it would take a COUPLE days. How many people are in a married couple? Is it two? You told him a couple days, you now want to stretch that into a few days, but a few days went by and still nothing. Stop. Making. Excuses.


What else would he need at that point? He understood from you that this documentation was on its way, so OF COURSE he said he needed nothing else. He believed you already were getting his documentation to him! I shouldnt have to keep saying this same thing to you--ASIDE FROM THE NEED FOR DOCUMENTATION, he needed nothing else.

His decision to offer a price for the car does not in any way absolve you of your responsibility to provide what you agreed to provide. This issue isnt about the car....so stop making excuses. This issue is about your failure to provide what you agreed to provide.

You clearly knew you needed the VIN for that receipt. You clearly knew you didnt have it. Yet you still claim you sent him a proper receipt. Usually, when you add 2 and 2, you dont end up with 37....He asked you for a receipt and for written details of the sale. You agreed to provide it. And you didnt agree to do it once everything was done, you agreed to do it in a couple days. You did not live up to what you promised. Face it already.

There's plenty of ground for me to stand on. It isnt my fault that youre so busy making excuses that you refuse to acknowledge the holes in your words.


Did I or did I not already address this issue? Is it still going on? If so, then by all means, lets hear it. But either way, you STILL have your obligation to live up to.

You lied to ME. You were not up front with ME. so I KNOW you werent straight with him as youre claiming. His expectation was set by your words to him, and you failed to meet that expectation. THAT is the logic. It's been the logic from the beginning.

They couldnt have been that serious if after 4 days you didnt contact them back to let them know it was available again....or, if you did contact them, and they still didnt buy, then you didnt lose a thing. Unless, that is, youre going to tell me that scores of people contacted you, and they all found FD rollers for sale elsewhere that they bought within 4 days....

No, it wouldnt. I have been involved with this forum for about 10 years. I have seen bad sellers turn good, and good sellers turn bad at the drop of a hat. I have seen fantastic sellers turn into scammers. So I dont care what your feedback is--EVERYONE is subject to change in this life.

Then why is your story different? Why did you tell d k that he cost you a sale when an interested potential buyer had to be told that the car was off the market? And then, you come in here and tell us that there were "multiple interested people"? Why did you tell him that you DID lose your storage, and then you tell me that you ALMOST lost your storage? It doesnt add up, and thats the problem.

The only thing that is costing you money is your unwillingness to make this right. You want to sell your parts??? Fine--return what doesnt belong to you and I will be happy to reopen your thread. You get what you need, and he gets what he needs, and everyone wins. You didnt lose on the car--thats called SELLING A CAR. It sucks, but it comes with the territory. And you ended up selling it 10 days later. It's done, right? So why are you still clinging to what you think you lost? All these serious buyers you claim he cheated you out of?? As part of my car hobby, I also collect rare Thunderbirds. The last time I bought one, it took me months to settle on the one I wanted. It happened to be in Michigan. I checked out dozens of them before I found that one. My point?? Simple--if you REALLY had multiple serious buyers that were ready to buy your car in those 4 days, then one of them would have been available to buy it after he told you the deal was off. Either you didnt contact them or they werent ready, or else they werent serious about your car.....otherwise, it wouldnt have taken another 10 days to sell it to someone else. So stop griping about what you think you lost, count your blessings that you got it sold in pretty short order, and give this guy back what belongs to him. Then you BOTH can MOVE ON.

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iTrader: (5)

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/couple
4: an indefinite small number : few <a couple of days ago

Your entire logic is flawed.

rx7roller02

Look, kid, youre really starting to wear me thin. I dont give a damn what you think a couple means--the fact is that you claim NOW that you told him this would be an extended process. But you didnt tell him that then. You told him a couple days, and then you didnt even bother to keep up with him. No matter how you slice this, you owed it to a guy that was looking to spend thousands of dollars with you to keep him better informed. When he didnt hear from you, that was on you, jack--not on him.

We are at the end of this train wreck. Either he gets his money back or youre packing your bags. You have been less than honest with me, less than forthcoming with me, and I have shown where you gave differing details about your story depending on which time it was that you were telling it. The details of your account have not been the same, despite your best effort to claim otherwise. So it's decision time.....either you refund him his money, you get to sell the rest of your parts, and the two of you go about your business, or you will be shown the door.

Either way, this ends tonight.


So, I will ask you again, do you want to decide or should I ? Last chance for you to make the decision.....you tell me.

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iTrader: (5)

See that is where you are wrong, a couple days infers that it will take some time. If not specified it may mean a week. His impatience was the cause of the problem. I owe him nothing.

I'm sorry if it irks you that I quickly disproved your entire point with one definition, but calling me kid make you seem more immature than me. Which by the way I am no kid.

You can threaten me as he did, but I am not afraid. I know my story to be valid and despite how you have tried to spin it. You are supposed to be a moderator, but instead it seems as though you did more instigating than anything else. In what way have you aiding anyone in coming to a mutual agreement? This is the internet afterall and you can make whatever decision you would like but please realize how little it will actually accomplish.

flaco

iTrader: (7)

Make things right man

rx7roller02

There is no excuse for not keeping up with your buyer. None. You owe him his money back.

You didnt disprove anything, chief. You claimed to be honest with him, and with me....and your own words speak for themselves.

And I know how old you are. Thanks for the info, sport.

I dont make threats, I make promises.


Hang on a second there, scooter....I didnt spin anything. I showed where your own words dont paint the rosy picture you claim they do.

Remember that little part about how I warned you against breaking forum rules?? Here's a hint--youre doing it right now.


here's the deal...I approached you with nothing but politeness. In fact, you even PMed me to thank me for removing your private information. So do us all a favor and get the hell over yourself. You have the choice to make it right or not. I am not responsible for your choice. I am, however, free to make my own.

Best of luck to you....

rx7roller02

Thanks, but he had more than enough chances.

rx-7PRIDE

jeez its $500 bucks and you already made prolly 3 times that when selling the fd and as your not a legitament auto salesman or auto selling place of business you basically lose all legallity after not specifying a "non re-fundable" written contract. BUT the way i see it is if the buyer really wants the money back in this situation why not just step into a small claims court and sue the seller legally and see how far his evidence gets him in the justice system cuz trust me this forum isnt getting you any closer to your $500 deposit