Troubling experience with Japan2LA
03-06-11, 09:43 PM
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I didn't see this earlier but feel like I need to address it, since I apparently in your eyes am at fault, and you've making inaccurate assumptions and statements . It is obvious he has not provided you with all of the information, since he had thrown away the letter from my attorney. If you don't wish to have this drawn out further, I only ask that you delete your post if you delete mine, since your are claiming my fault and frivolousness.
Yes he sent me the same type of turbos as we originally agreed. The mistake here is that the condition of what was agreed to is not the same condition as received. The pictures of the original turbos that I agreed to purchase showed a set of turbos with no manifold cracks, no rust, no other "defect", aka GREAT condition. Not only was there a claim of shipment when there wasn't, a delay in shipment weeks after payment was sent (without notification for the delay, until this thread was made), but ultimately he switched the turbos to something different without notice for me to consider. The turbos that showed up had manifold damage, rust, and appearance of oil leakage.
Will these things affect the longevity or perform equally as the original set? Only until someone could run them side by side until one set failed would know for certain. The issue here is failing to notify me of the change of product. Had I seen pictures of these turbos beforehand, I would not have agreed to the price I did. Add up all these fact sin your head as a independent person: false statement in shipment, several week delay in shipment, opening a box and seeing something different than promised. Would you take this person's word for everything as truth that you've never had business with? They didn't bother to warn you ahead of time, they only provided excuses after the fact? Call me paranoid, but I won't trust a vendor that does this behavior. The law does not trust this behavior either.
Yes I did take the turbos out of the box. How do you think I saw the rust, oil leak, manifold damage, took pictures, etc...? This is when I tried to make resolution with him privately and through moderation staff. I was willing to resolve this matter peacefully and without counsel. It wasn't until he started threatening me and then decided to ignore me that I invoked my attorney. How many similar instances can be found on this forum, yet across the Internet, where someone fails to meet the promises made in a deal and then other is left with the bill? Too many. I absolutely needed an attorney since his actions showed that he had no intention to resolve this matter, and sticking me with the bill.
At the time my attorney drafted the letter he searched and found several turbos available with similar condition of the ones I received an were averaging $200/shipped. This was the amount that we were looking to settle for as my payment for the turbos I received. We took the purchase price ($350) and subtracted the average comparable condition amount ($200), and asked for $150 back to settle the difference.
So after my attempts to contact to him, my lawyer attempting to contact to him (that he admittedly threw away), and paypal contacting him, how is the ball NOT in his court? He chose to wait to see who the companies would favor and when he lost he decided to start the nonsense over again.
1--you never acted responsibly to determine the actual condition of what he sent you.
2--you made him a ridiculous offer that has NO LEGAL PRECEDENT because you were completely uninformed--and that is due to your own inaction, not his.
Is it just luck, or rather the law supporting my side and both companies agreed to the charge back? Both had copies of all the information (PM's, emails, photos), to make their decision. I never denied to either that I never received the turbos, but rather received the turbos not as advertised, and that is what their decision was based upon.
I didn't really want to get into all of the details, but I did not appreciate you questioning my integrity.
03-06-11, 11:22 PM
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I ordered a used 13b swap from j2la for just over 2400 it took a bit longer to get (will be in tomorrow) but he did say he sent me a series 7 trans so that's cool of him I will update u all on the parts when they come in but so far id by from him again! He has been real professional.
03-07-11, 08:51 PM
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"13" means it's NextDayAir Saver...the driver has until Noon to attempt delivery at a business and if it's a residential address, he/she has all day as long as they attempt it on that day. When I was part of the Evil Empire, I used to attempt delivery during the normal next day air run where you basically get one of your bulk stops off at the back and then start delivering the regular NextDayAirs which must be delivered by 10:30 AM no matter if they are ressie or commercial. If I had any residential NDA's, I'd go into the load and see what else I had for that particular street to unload them too, if they were small, to get ahead of the stop count allowance.
Point is...don't dawdle when he/she hands that envelope over if they are still at the door. If he/she attempts in that 8:40 - 10:30 AM window, you are hauling to get all of it off just in time. If it is an envelope and it's a residential address, you gotta pay real close attention during the morning hours to the sound of the UPS truck driving up to your house because the UPS driver can simply release those under a mat and just knock on the door once scanned w/o ever meeting the person of the house.
Slow down to sidewalk. HONK, HONK!! Stop vehicle, release seatbelt, pull keys, open bulkhead door, pull NDA pkg/envelope, grab DIAD board, exit car, run to front door, scan pkg/envelope at patio, place at decided hiding position and then, "Hello, UPS!!" BANG, BANG!! on the door, ring the bell and run back to the package car.
I had that routine down to 45 seconds from the point where I stopped the UPS truck and got back in and was gone.
If it's a business or an apartment, you're supposed to get a signature but UPS drivers will bend rules for customers if they think they can get away with it...ie., shoving a NDA envelope under the door slit at an apartment and not getting a signature at all.....DR6....DriverRelease(option)6...front door release.
If JLA specified "Signature Required", then the driver MUST stop and give you time to answer the door..but that's an extra cost option.
Point is...don't dawdle when he/she hands that envelope over if they are still at the door. If he/she attempts in that 8:40 - 10:30 AM window, you are hauling to get all of it off just in time. If it is an envelope and it's a residential address, you gotta pay real close attention during the morning hours to the sound of the UPS truck driving up to your house because the UPS driver can simply release those under a mat and just knock on the door once scanned w/o ever meeting the person of the house.
Slow down to sidewalk. HONK, HONK!! Stop vehicle, release seatbelt, pull keys, open bulkhead door, pull NDA pkg/envelope, grab DIAD board, exit car, run to front door, scan pkg/envelope at patio, place at decided hiding position and then, "Hello, UPS!!" BANG, BANG!! on the door, ring the bell and run back to the package car.
I had that routine down to 45 seconds from the point where I stopped the UPS truck and got back in and was gone.
If it's a business or an apartment, you're supposed to get a signature but UPS drivers will bend rules for customers if they think they can get away with it...ie., shoving a NDA envelope under the door slit at an apartment and not getting a signature at all.....DR6....DriverRelease(option)6...front door release.
If JLA specified "Signature Required", then the driver MUST stop and give you time to answer the door..but that's an extra cost option.
Last edited by mar3; 03-07-11 at 08:53 PM.
03-08-11, 07:26 PM
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"03" means regular ground delivery.
Here's the breakdown:
They just don't train them like they used to.
Thanks to everyone involved for the updates and please, no other regular members are to post in this thread. Any such attempts will simply be deleted, so don't waste everyone's time, thanks.
Mario III
Tracking Number: 1Z9790201364835060
Service: UPS Next Day Air Saver®
Shipped/Billed On: 03/07/2011
Delivered On: 03/08/2011 1:03 P.M.
Delivered To: KANSAS CITY, KS, US
Left At: Front Door
Called it on the money...and this driver is a slacker. An envelope? The preloader has to load these NDASavers with the regular NDA's which are all at the very front and on the top passenger side shelf of the interior. As an envelope, he could've grabbed stuff on that street, brought it to the front on the bottom shelf below the NDA's and made a killing on his stops-per-hour count.Service: UPS Next Day Air Saver®
Shipped/Billed On: 03/07/2011
Delivered On: 03/08/2011 1:03 P.M.
Delivered To: KANSAS CITY, KS, US
Left At: Front Door
They just don't train them like they used to.
Thanks to everyone involved for the updates and please, no other regular members are to post in this thread. Any such attempts will simply be deleted, so don't waste everyone's time, thanks.
Mario III
03-09-11, 10:40 PM
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UPS tracking website says it should be in LA by Monday. 36 lbs and it's left Kansas which means it got left off before the scheduled UPS pickup for wherever doofy left it off. Reload has done its job and it's in an 18-wheeler right now somewhere in America.
Last edited by mar3; 03-09-11 at 10:42 PM.
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