Pineapple Racing: Pending issue.
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Pineapple Racing: Pending issue.
This is my girlfriend's account. Her name is Kiki and about a year ago she purchased an FD from a guy who told her the engine was still under warrantee by Rob Golden at Pineapple Racing in Portland, OR.
She bought it and the engine almost immediately went bad. So, she had a guy remove it and ended up sending it back to Rob Golden in Troutdale, Oregon at his company called “Pineapple Racing”. Well, the engine was OUT of warrantee so the jerk who sold it to her lied. Typical. We figured we’d have to pay a grand or two to get it in tip-top shape. NO SUCH LUCK!
Rob Golden (loser) told Kiki (my g/f) that the engine was never paid for by the previous owner six years ago and he'd have to keep the engine as well as all the external parts!. We didn't care about the engine because it was blown, and figured we could cut a deal and get the engine fixed up for a good price.
Again, we were wrong. Rob Golden quoted us $4,500!
Oh screw that! So, I told him we’d look for an engine.
We found a guy in OK who sold us a short block because it was much less expensive than spending $4,500 having Rob Golden fix it. We spend $2900 for the short block and asked Rob to send back the extra parts alone with the turbo my g/f bought over eBay and shipped up with her long block.
Rob said he would not ship back the long-block parts! Alternator, water-pump, original turbo, wiring harness, brackets, screws, injectors, oil pump, oil pan, piping, manifolds, ACT clutch plates, flywheel, mountings and much, much more! INCLUDING the turbo we sent up in a separate box newly purchased over eBay for $800! (so, he has both our turbos)
He kept it all. I kid you NOT!
For months he told Kiki he'd send her the external engine parts if she could prove the car was hers. Well, she did. She sent her the title, gave her phone contact info for the Utah DMV (where my g/f is from) but he’d have NONE of it! It's been a nightmare. He keeps accusing her of not being the owner! He talks about registration but she can’t register it until she gets it smog tested and can’t do that until she gets the parts back so she can get it on the damn road! Kiki had Rob call the UT DMV who told her the title has been in her name since before the engine was sent up las August ‘08. ROB said it was NOT good enough!
So, Kiki called Rob and told him she'd BUY the parts! HER OWN PARTS BACK! She was pretty upset about all this. Lost her original engine, lied to by the original owner, not under warranty, spend money removing the engine, money shipping the engine, and money buying another short block plus shipping and now she's screwed because Rob Golden won't give the these parts back like he said he would. He's even got the turbo she bought over eBay for $800 along with the original marginal turbo.
We called her lawyer who told her the parts aren't worth the money to take him to court. We live in Las Vegas and litigations must be set in Oregon! So, it's not worth it. Our lawyer told us that Rob knows this fact and will keep the parts and eventually use or sell them for personal profit.
We're looking for good quality externals so we can get her FD up and going. Anyone got what we need for a good price?
Oh, and don't do business with Rob. He's a thief. We talked to the original owner who got the engine from Rob six years ago and told us he cancelled the check because when he got the engine in it leaked oil and didn't run right. He told us it never ran right. I don’t know if that’s true or not, but ROB GOLDEN needs to go after HIM for moneys NOT MY GIRLFRIEND!
So yeah, anyone got the externals she needs? Her excitement is all but gone for this car that *I* recommended she buys! Wow, what a mistake. We got screwed by Rob Golden pretty hard here.
Don’t do business with Pineapple Racing or Rob Golden. My girlfriend is STILL working on getting her parts back but it does not look good. If she gets her parts back amiably then I’ll post a retraction and an apology, but until then ENOUGH IS ENOUGH and Rob Golden better watch his back.
Kevin
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She bought it and the engine almost immediately went bad. So, she had a guy remove it and ended up sending it back to Rob Golden in Troutdale, Oregon at his company called “Pineapple Racing”. Well, the engine was OUT of warrantee so the jerk who sold it to her lied. Typical. We figured we’d have to pay a grand or two to get it in tip-top shape. NO SUCH LUCK!
Rob Golden (loser) told Kiki (my g/f) that the engine was never paid for by the previous owner six years ago and he'd have to keep the engine as well as all the external parts!. We didn't care about the engine because it was blown, and figured we could cut a deal and get the engine fixed up for a good price.
Again, we were wrong. Rob Golden quoted us $4,500!
Oh screw that! So, I told him we’d look for an engine.
We found a guy in OK who sold us a short block because it was much less expensive than spending $4,500 having Rob Golden fix it. We spend $2900 for the short block and asked Rob to send back the extra parts alone with the turbo my g/f bought over eBay and shipped up with her long block.
Rob said he would not ship back the long-block parts! Alternator, water-pump, original turbo, wiring harness, brackets, screws, injectors, oil pump, oil pan, piping, manifolds, ACT clutch plates, flywheel, mountings and much, much more! INCLUDING the turbo we sent up in a separate box newly purchased over eBay for $800! (so, he has both our turbos)
He kept it all. I kid you NOT!
For months he told Kiki he'd send her the external engine parts if she could prove the car was hers. Well, she did. She sent her the title, gave her phone contact info for the Utah DMV (where my g/f is from) but he’d have NONE of it! It's been a nightmare. He keeps accusing her of not being the owner! He talks about registration but she can’t register it until she gets it smog tested and can’t do that until she gets the parts back so she can get it on the damn road! Kiki had Rob call the UT DMV who told her the title has been in her name since before the engine was sent up las August ‘08. ROB said it was NOT good enough!
So, Kiki called Rob and told him she'd BUY the parts! HER OWN PARTS BACK! She was pretty upset about all this. Lost her original engine, lied to by the original owner, not under warranty, spend money removing the engine, money shipping the engine, and money buying another short block plus shipping and now she's screwed because Rob Golden won't give the these parts back like he said he would. He's even got the turbo she bought over eBay for $800 along with the original marginal turbo.
We called her lawyer who told her the parts aren't worth the money to take him to court. We live in Las Vegas and litigations must be set in Oregon! So, it's not worth it. Our lawyer told us that Rob knows this fact and will keep the parts and eventually use or sell them for personal profit.
We're looking for good quality externals so we can get her FD up and going. Anyone got what we need for a good price?
Oh, and don't do business with Rob. He's a thief. We talked to the original owner who got the engine from Rob six years ago and told us he cancelled the check because when he got the engine in it leaked oil and didn't run right. He told us it never ran right. I don’t know if that’s true or not, but ROB GOLDEN needs to go after HIM for moneys NOT MY GIRLFRIEND!
So yeah, anyone got the externals she needs? Her excitement is all but gone for this car that *I* recommended she buys! Wow, what a mistake. We got screwed by Rob Golden pretty hard here.
Don’t do business with Pineapple Racing or Rob Golden. My girlfriend is STILL working on getting her parts back but it does not look good. If she gets her parts back amiably then I’ll post a retraction and an apology, but until then ENOUGH IS ENOUGH and Rob Golden better watch his back.
Kevin
kevin.j.jensen@gmail.com
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Screw this, find out if his company is incorporated, if so file a dispute with the State Corporation Commission, they have funds put aside (that everyone who have a corporation contributes to) to handle unfair business practices such as these..they will close him down until he refunds the “FUND” you will not even have to deal with him or his company..it will be handled independently of him, cost you nothing, and he will not even know who filed against him, you just have to prove your case, which seems simple in your case… he is holding you responsible for the actions of a 3rd party unlawfully.. Takes a little foot work but if this is true, this dude deserves justice based on the principles alone.
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Holy ****... He kept your motor because the previous owner never paid for it? THAT is bullshit. I'd be driving there to get it back, calling the cops, etc. You didn't buy stolen goods as far as I'm concerned. If the previous person never paid for the service Rob needs to hire a lawyer and go after that person for breach of contract not take it out on you.
So I have alot of the engine externals (not everything) but enough to get you in the right direction. For the price of shipping I will send you everything I've got external engine related. (with the weight of this stuff it'll probably run you about 75-100 for shipping. PM Me and we'll work out the details.
So I have alot of the engine externals (not everything) but enough to get you in the right direction. For the price of shipping I will send you everything I've got external engine related. (with the weight of this stuff it'll probably run you about 75-100 for shipping. PM Me and we'll work out the details.
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Holy ****... He kept your motor because the previous owner never paid for it? THAT is bullshit. I'd be driving there to get it back, calling the cops, etc. You didn't buy stolen goods as far as I'm concerned. If the previous person never paid for the service Rob needs to hire a lawyer and go after that person for breach of contract not take it out on you.
So I have alot of the engine externals (not everything) but enough to get you in the right direction. For the price of shipping I will send you everything I've got external engine related. (with the weight of this stuff it'll probably run you about 75-100 for shipping. PM Me and we'll work out the details.
So I have alot of the engine externals (not everything) but enough to get you in the right direction. For the price of shipping I will send you everything I've got external engine related. (with the weight of this stuff it'll probably run you about 75-100 for shipping. PM Me and we'll work out the details.
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I dont want to support any of the 2 sides,
Kiki, its definately not your fault. I have spoken to Rob a few times. He seems reasonable but i dont know him in person
Being in Rob's shoes, im sure not only he lost money when he built it but all the hours you need to build the engine.
I have seen the thread by the previous owner explaining the situation months ago.
Its the previous owner's fault for selling you a car with a "stolen" engine
I think you should demand a new engine from the guy who sold you the car. Or get him to pay Rob and get your stuff back.
As for the previous owner not having the car running ok, THIS IS TOTAL B.S... He overheated the car and he admitted it on the thread.
Kiki, its definately not your fault. I have spoken to Rob a few times. He seems reasonable but i dont know him in person
Being in Rob's shoes, im sure not only he lost money when he built it but all the hours you need to build the engine.
I have seen the thread by the previous owner explaining the situation months ago.
Its the previous owner's fault for selling you a car with a "stolen" engine
I think you should demand a new engine from the guy who sold you the car. Or get him to pay Rob and get your stuff back.
As for the previous owner not having the car running ok, THIS IS TOTAL B.S... He overheated the car and he admitted it on the thread.
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Im sure Rob is a nice guy and Im sure he did what he did and just got taken advantage of but really, Kiki should not have to pay for someone elses deception. Its a real shame that Rob had to take a loss but I think he should step up and do the right thing. I feel terrible for both Rob and Kiki. I guess Kiki should have called Rob beforehand about the warranty before the purchase though.
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ok, first things first, Rob is not a thief. i've dealt with Pinepple many times and besides being a little on the high side as far as prices go, their shop is legit. employees included.
you bought a FD with a stolen motor and your mad that the builder took it back after you sent it to him??? hmmm, duh he's gonna keep it. if someone stole YOUR property you'd do the same thing. more then likely Rob got taken advantage of and let the guy go without paying the entire bill. now your flamming him for being a nice guy to some *** who took the motor and sold you his car? that's messed up.
and you all keep saying Rob needs to go after the guy, well think about that for a minute. if the guy lives in another state, then Rob would have the same problems getting his stuff back as Kiki does getting hers. wow, was that hard to figure out?
i feel bad that this girl got a FD with a stolen motor. FD's are sick and Pineapple can build a motor that will make you **** your pants when it blows your doors off on the freeway. but this IS a STOLEN motor. bottom line. the extra parts are another story.
i agree that Rob should give her the parts she paid for back as long as she can prove it. you need to remember that there are 2 sides to every story. how do you know the guy that wrote this isn't lying? i'm not calling you a liar because i don't know you and don't presume to. but i do know Rob and i do know how a good shop runs business. a good shop got screwed by the FD guy, then the FD guy screwed Kiki buy selling her a car with a stolen motor. and now Rob's name gets smeared for it.
you bought a FD with a stolen motor and your mad that the builder took it back after you sent it to him??? hmmm, duh he's gonna keep it. if someone stole YOUR property you'd do the same thing. more then likely Rob got taken advantage of and let the guy go without paying the entire bill. now your flamming him for being a nice guy to some *** who took the motor and sold you his car? that's messed up.
and you all keep saying Rob needs to go after the guy, well think about that for a minute. if the guy lives in another state, then Rob would have the same problems getting his stuff back as Kiki does getting hers. wow, was that hard to figure out?
i feel bad that this girl got a FD with a stolen motor. FD's are sick and Pineapple can build a motor that will make you **** your pants when it blows your doors off on the freeway. but this IS a STOLEN motor. bottom line. the extra parts are another story.
i agree that Rob should give her the parts she paid for back as long as she can prove it. you need to remember that there are 2 sides to every story. how do you know the guy that wrote this isn't lying? i'm not calling you a liar because i don't know you and don't presume to. but i do know Rob and i do know how a good shop runs business. a good shop got screwed by the FD guy, then the FD guy screwed Kiki buy selling her a car with a stolen motor. and now Rob's name gets smeared for it.
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Buy an FD with a stolen/bad motor = YOUR bad. Did you ask for a reciept for the motor work before the purchase prolly not, if you did you would have seen that the motor would have been out of warranty/if the guy had the paperwork at all in which case he doesnt you dont buy an RX7.
Basically you got screwed by the seller so instead of talking/doing your homework(compression test) bout the guy who sold you the car you try to accuse Pineapple Racing of being unjust. Dont see any problem of them keeping the motor. But your parts which you claim he has or whatever IDK or care.
Basically you got screwed by the seller so instead of talking/doing your homework(compression test) bout the guy who sold you the car you try to accuse Pineapple Racing of being unjust. Dont see any problem of them keeping the motor. But your parts which you claim he has or whatever IDK or care.
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Wow this is crazy... this would keep me from doing buisness with Pineapple Racing. I wonder why Pineapple Racing has not responded this was posted 3-26-09
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Rob or Pineapple racing is a well reputable shop. things go wrong but if i was in his shoes i would do the same. The motor really belongs to him. According to the original posts, Rob required the see that the car is now yours. Since the title is on the previous owner what do you want Rob to assume? That you are all lying and trying to **** him over again
I think you should proceed the case to the police against the original owner than Rob or do something to transfer the title on your name to get your stuff back
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He doesn't respond because he has better things to do with the little free time he has,rob and i were talking about this just last week.Rob would have sent back all of the externals if kiki could have proven it was her stuff.it is all sitting on a shelf.from what i know the paper work she sent was not for a RX-7.that is why he did not give this stuff back.look at it from his perspective;someone calls you claiming you have their parts,but can't provide proper documentation,would you give it to them,i don't think so,because then you become liable for release of possible stolen goods.get rob the right documents and he will give you your parts.i have known,and done buisness with rob for 17 years now,and he is definetly not a theif.
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probably because he's too busy dealing with paying customers not only that, but haven't you noticed that he stopped advertising on this website? they haven't been a vendor for awhile now. plus, most of us use this site for buying, selling, or looking up info. Pineapple surely doesn't need to do any of that through here anymore, right
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Bad situation for Kevin and Kiki but this case is similar to buying stolen property. If Rob had filed a police report on the original owner, technically, Kiki could be charged with possession of stolen property. Most likely wouldn't happen but when in possession of stolen property, the items are returned to the rightful owner, in this case Rob, and the buyer of the stolen prop is out the money they paid and hopefully not charged. I do hope everything gets worked out in this situation.