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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 11:25 PM
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How do you tune with 50-50 mix?

Just curious as I may get into this down the road. Does this change my AR's when running it? Say I am seeing 11.0 at wot and install a kit will this change? For now I am happy just running race gas but it does get expensive!
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 07:07 AM
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anyone initially approaching AI asks this central question...

most are surprised at the correct answer. you tune for a normal AFR. if, for example, 11.3 works pre-AI for you then tune for 11.3.

this is not to say that with the addition of AI and your prior tune you will see similar numbers. you won't. you will be rich.

if you do not retune after adding AI you will not garner it's many benefits.

of course we all may not have the same objective w the re-tune... some may just be looking for zero knock and happy motors while others may be looking for major hp gains.

here's the sticky on the subject:

https://www.rx7club.com/auxiliary-injection-173/ai-tuning-afr-important-582856/

good luck

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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 04:21 PM
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My mind is not working today!!! I will go back to the thread you posted and read from a to z. Or if Mr. Cain would turn his cell on it would be easier!!!!!!!!
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Old Oct 13, 2007 | 02:17 PM
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Also when you take out pump fuel and add boost you put yourself a dangerous position if you loose the AI. See safe-guards thread.

I left my unassisted waste gate row (12psi) fat with fuel. For the electronic boost controled rows above I use a relay to energize the EBC solenoid. No AI pressure. no increase in boost.
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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Barry Bordes
Also when you take out pump fuel and add boost you put yourself a dangerous position if you loose the AI. See safe-guards thread.

I left my unassisted waste gate row (12psi) fat with fuel. For the electronic boost controled rows above I use a relay to energize the EBC solenoid. No AI pressure. no increase in boost.
Barry
Do you have a wiring diagram, parts list or pics of this safe guard. I heard of people doing this but don't know how to go about it.

R.K.
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 04:52 PM
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I control my Profec B spec II solenoid with a relay which is activated by my Coolingmist clog switch. See diagram.
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Barry Bordes
Also when you take out pump fuel and add boost you put yourself a dangerous position if you loose the AI. See safe-guards thread.

I left my unassisted waste gate row (12psi) fat with fuel. For the electronic boost controled rows above I use a relay to energize the EBC solenoid. No AI pressure. no increase in boost.
Barry
thats a good idea!
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 06:00 PM
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Very nice diagram. Gets the point across very well. And yes thats a damn good idea.
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Barry Bordes
I control my Profec B spec II solenoid with a relay which is activated by my Coolingmist clog switch. See diagram.
Barry
Would this trigger the safeguard if the tank runs out of the pump stops working? That is a more likely scenario than getting a clogged nozzle. I have been running AI for over 3 years and have never had a clog..
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 02:03 PM
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Radkins, Thank You. You inspired me to include a simple safety device in my AI system. ,

Don't be thrown off by my using the clog nozzle switch to activate the boost control. If that switch doesn't see pressure be it a bad pump, bad pump connection, or low/no fluid in the tank, the boost stays at spring pressure of 12 psi.

The clog switch function must also be monitored, ie. it should go out as soon as the throttle is released or the nozzle is starting to clog.
Barry
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Barry Bordes
Radkins, Thank You. You inspired me to include a simple safety device in my AI system. ,

Don't be thrown off by my using the clog nozzle switch to activate the boost control. If that switch doesn't see pressure be it a bad pump, bad pump connection, or low/no fluid in the tank, the boost stays at spring pressure of 12 psi.

The clog switch function must also be monitored, ie. it should go out as soon as the throttle is released or the nozzle is starting to clog.
Barry

This is great!
I think this information just pushed me over the fence for the AI Investment
Great Information!
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