Auxiliary Injection The place to discuss topics of water injection, alky/meth injection, mixing water/alky and all of the various systems and tuning methods for it. Aux Injection is a great way to have a reliable high power rotary.

CDI Systems with Water Injection

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-24-10, 10:38 AM
  #1  
Full Member

Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
bo0557's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: UK
Posts: 141
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
CDI Systems with Water Injection

Hey guys,

ive got a 12a half bridge T04R Microtech LT10s with the X4 box..

Im looking for a CDI system that i can run on this with a rice racing water injection kit.. I also have a 13bt auto in a early mazda which i would want to use it on when i relocate back to australia from London, UK..

Ive got a mate whos coming to the USA next week so looking at something from JEGS or Summit..

Is there in the Crane or MSD range that may work.. I dont mind if its Leading only CDI or Both...
I want some guidance as ive not used or bought a CDI system before.

Cheers

Last edited by bo0557; 04-24-10 at 10:46 AM.
Old 04-24-10, 01:20 PM
  #2  
spending too much money..

iTrader: (2)
 
hondahater's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: louisiana
Posts: 10,117
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
I use dual crane fireball hi-6 ignition boxes for leading and 4 crane lx-92 coils. It sucks crane is out of business now, maybe you might want to get msd because of that, I'm not sure. Anyways I use this stuff along with the same ecu setup you have and it works well.
Old 04-24-10, 07:57 PM
  #3  
Rotary Freak

iTrader: (8)
 
rx72c's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Australia
Posts: 2,802
Received 116 Likes on 66 Posts
DOnt touch either brands with a 10 foot pole. I TOLD YOU to use the DYNATEK UNIT.

dont waste your time with anything else.

Only other brand i would use is the crane units.


I have tested the dynatek units to 9.2:1 fuel mixtures with 650cc of water 25psi of boost and no missfire and only missing around 35hp.
Old 04-25-10, 01:18 PM
  #4  
Full Member

Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
bo0557's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: UK
Posts: 141
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
what did you guys run on thelevmans S3 rx7?? Dynatek?

In your experince omar whats the best you think long term for my use and then the 1300 when im back.

Crane or Dynatek?
Old 04-25-10, 08:13 PM
  #5  
Rotary Enthusiast

 
ronbros3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Austin TX.
Posts: 862
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
my system,, 2 Crane HI6-2 boxes, and 4 Crane LX92 coils, plus a big CDI capacitor, to drive the box cdis.

complete setup was designed and installed at the Crane factory 5yrs ago, in daytona Fl,its a shame they went out of business.
i hope i wont need parts, because thet gettin hard to find NEW, used stuff could be questionable( like burned out)
Old 04-25-10, 08:28 PM
  #6  
Rotary Enthusiast

 
ronbros3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Austin TX.
Posts: 862
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Crane factory setup,ignition

pic of crane setup, iv had no breakup down to afr 9.9-10.
Crane hi6+2 box has 2 cdi in each box, so i have 4 actual cdis, and 4 coils, 10mm wires.
and a Microtech LTX8
Attached Thumbnails CDI Systems with Water Injection-mazda-rx7-002.jpg  
Old 04-27-10, 04:16 PM
  #7  
Rotary Freak

iTrader: (8)
 
rx72c's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Australia
Posts: 2,802
Received 116 Likes on 66 Posts
Cdi

Yes thelevman using dynatek.
Old 04-28-10, 03:06 PM
  #8  
Full Member

Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
bo0557's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: UK
Posts: 141
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
and do you need to run their leads or can i still stick with my 8mm magnecor leads?
Old 04-30-10, 04:53 PM
  #9  
Rotary Freak

iTrader: (8)
 
rx72c's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Australia
Posts: 2,802
Received 116 Likes on 66 Posts
You can run any leads you want.

We are using basic 5 dollar each top gun leads on my 700rwhp rx7.
Old 04-30-10, 05:49 PM
  #10  
Full Member
 
turbotoaster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: England
Posts: 208
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
did you use the coils from dynatek or a different brand, im looking at all there coils on there website and not sure which is best to choose for 30psi of boost, 900cc of water
Old 04-30-10, 06:57 PM
  #11  
Lives on the Forum

iTrader: (8)
 
thewird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 6,591
Likes: 0
Received 11 Likes on 11 Posts
M&W CDI?

thewird
Old 05-01-10, 03:28 PM
  #12  
Full Member

Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
bo0557's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: UK
Posts: 141
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
yeh speaking with the guys at dynatek they said that the HEC Bosch coils with the usual microtech install would be ok.. But they also do offer their own coils..

I think for now ill see how it goes with the coils i got.. I think ill need your assistance omar on the install too if thats cool. Will chat over msn or something.
Old 05-01-10, 05:11 PM
  #13  
Rotary Freak

iTrader: (8)
 
rx72c's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Australia
Posts: 2,802
Received 116 Likes on 66 Posts
Damon just get their coils.
The whole kit is cheap as.

You want the single .5 ohm coils.
If you pm me ill do you a good deal. bosch coils are **** house.
Old 05-02-10, 12:28 PM
  #14  
Full Member

Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
bo0557's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: UK
Posts: 141
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
yeh nar i got the lot.. The place i got them from just waiting for the coils to come in so they will be sent seperate, a mates getting the unit as his in LA for work this week.
Old 05-02-10, 01:09 PM
  #15  
Full Member

Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
bo0557's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: UK
Posts: 141
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
how come with this forum also in the Auxiliary Injection topic there is like 472 topics but i can only see the front page..
Old 05-02-10, 11:39 PM
  #16  
Full Member

 
WLD 07's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Australia
Posts: 105
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
You need to change the display options at the bottom of the page.
Old 05-06-10, 08:12 PM
  #17  
IAN
Rotary Reborn!

iTrader: (3)
 
IAN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Canada
Posts: 5,284
Received 9 Likes on 6 Posts
I've been using the Autronic 500R. The M&W apparently is the same but half the size. I have had success with it and a noticable improvement over stock. I fire about 400cc's of -40 windsheild washer fluid and it can fire rich mixtures without issue.

Have not really seen anyone run any other ignition setups around here other then thewird once he installs his M&W. Local FD race car that we pit for has put in the M&W but we are running race gas and 18psi. No aux injection. Tuned by CHAG auto in montreal.
Old 05-12-10, 10:22 PM
  #18  
Senior Member

iTrader: (1)
 
a_reyes1014's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: chicago
Posts: 360
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I have just installed the accel 300 digital cdi unit on my leading coil and man better than the that huge msd unit I had in there. It's actually the size of the microtech lt10 or maybe smaller. Sucker really sparks hot. Noticeable difference especially on boost after 5000 rpm compared to the msd unit. This on the same tune. The car really needs to be tuned though
Old 07-04-10, 04:22 PM
  #19  
Full Member

Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
bo0557's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: UK
Posts: 141
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
So ive installed the ARC2 and CDI and after an hr of driving i could hear the ARC2 box ticking..
I turned the car off and then restarted it and it went away but again 40min later it started doing the same..

Any one have this issue ??
Old 07-05-10, 10:07 AM
  #20  
Full Member
 
turbotoaster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: England
Posts: 208
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
can you take some pics of your installation, where you have connected everything up to where its placed in the engine bay.

Should give us some ideas abotu potential issues and for anyone who is gonna install that kit
Old 07-06-10, 04:45 AM
  #21  
Full Member

Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
bo0557's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: UK
Posts: 141
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by turbotoaster
can you take some pics of your installation, where you have connected everything up to where its placed in the engine bay.

Should give us some ideas abotu potential issues and for anyone who is gonna install that kit

Its a box with wires coming out of it with 12v ign and 12v constant and a earth

nothing more to it and its not in the engine bay
Old 07-06-10, 08:20 PM
  #22  
Rotary Freak

iTrader: (8)
 
rx72c's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Australia
Posts: 2,802
Received 116 Likes on 66 Posts
SO DOES THE CAR STOP RUNNING? Were is your earth going?
Old 07-07-10, 10:16 AM
  #23  
Full Member

Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
bo0557's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: UK
Posts: 141
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car does run but havent had it out in a week..

Will be heading out in it tonight so will drop you a line on msn if your on your morning
Old 07-07-10, 04:57 PM
  #24  
Full Member

Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
bo0557's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: UK
Posts: 141
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
yeh took the car out for cruise again and the arc2 is buzzin its head off.

just got off the phone from the tech guys in the USA and he said the only 2 reasons it would make the zap or ticking sound is if the main loom plug wasnt on properly which it is OR their is some solder issue inside and its arcing..

Going to send it to my mate whos running on here in the UK and get him to run it on his car..
Old 07-07-10, 05:31 PM
  #25  
Full Member

Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
bo0557's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: UK
Posts: 141
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
here is a vid i took from my iphone - the sounds can be heard from about 7sec or so..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcTbZTiziFY


Quick Reply: CDI Systems with Water Injection



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:34 AM.