Ethanol Conditioner
Ethanol Conditioner
Wonder if this is something we should be doing to our E85 powered cars?
Lucas Safeguard Ethanol Fuel Conditioner : Lucas Oil
Lucas Safeguard Ethanol Fuel Conditioner : Lucas Oil
i have a hard time trusting a fuel conditioner that they use testimonials of pump gas on ethanol conditioner..
if you plan on leaving the car for extended periods it may help a bit, otherwise i would drain the tank and seal it as best you can until it's time to bring it back out.
the big question is will it keep the fuel from deteriorating or collecting water. i can guarantee it won't fix the most common issues of rust in the tank fouling your fuel system.
the best alternative for E85 guys would be to ditch the metal tanks we have and find an ABS plastic tank that will fit in the OEM location and shield it well. you can't foul the system if it won't rust.
if you plan on leaving the car for extended periods it may help a bit, otherwise i would drain the tank and seal it as best you can until it's time to bring it back out.
the big question is will it keep the fuel from deteriorating or collecting water. i can guarantee it won't fix the most common issues of rust in the tank fouling your fuel system.
the best alternative for E85 guys would be to ditch the metal tanks we have and find an ABS plastic tank that will fit in the OEM location and shield it well. you can't foul the system if it won't rust.
Last edited by RotaryEvolution; Feb 19, 2013 at 01:12 PM.
i have a hard time trusting a fuel conditioner that they use testimonials of pump gas on ethanol conditioner..
if you plan on leaving the car for extended periods it may help a bit, otherwise i would drain the tank and seal it as best you can until it's time to bring it back out.
the big question is will it keep the fuel from deteriorating or collecting water. i can guarantee it won't fix the most common issues of rust in the tank fouling your fuel system.
if you plan on leaving the car for extended periods it may help a bit, otherwise i would drain the tank and seal it as best you can until it's time to bring it back out.
the big question is will it keep the fuel from deteriorating or collecting water. i can guarantee it won't fix the most common issues of rust in the tank fouling your fuel system.
I am taking mine out and sending them to Injector Dynamics so they can take a peek. I got one of the first sets of them, so it will be a good test.
you do have one benefit that most others do not, castor oil is already somewhat conditioning your fuel and protecting parts. in other ways it could be detrimental if left it could also dry out and become sticky versus other synthetic 2 stroke oils, since ethanol 2 stroke lubricants are very limited.
best thing to do is just run the engine periodically even if it is in storage.
i just have learned to accept that 99% of these products are just snake oil that do next to nothing, playing off the few who have a mindfuck that it made an engine run great and testify as such. the irony being that most gasoline coditioners and cleaners have ethanol/methanol in them.
best thing to do is just run the engine periodically even if it is in storage.
i just have learned to accept that 99% of these products are just snake oil that do next to nothing, playing off the few who have a mindfuck that it made an engine run great and testify as such. the irony being that most gasoline coditioners and cleaners have ethanol/methanol in them.
Last edited by RotaryEvolution; Feb 19, 2013 at 01:26 PM.
Yeah... I tend to premix pretty heavy too.
Funny to see the people behind me waving their hands in front of their face because of the smell!
I never let it sit longer than a week without starting it.
Funny to see the people behind me waving their hands in front of their face because of the smell!
I never let it sit longer than a week without starting it.
Also note that one of the testimonials that came up for me when i went to that site is from Ralph Wiggins 
So take that as you will.
Sta-bil is also making an ethanol version of their traditional Sta-bil product now it seems. But again looks to be pointed toward E10 not E85.
Golden Eagle (the manufacturer of Sta-bil) has the following white paper about gasoline on their website. They do talk about Ethanol blended fuels (but nor specifically E85) and the challenges with them. E85 will have the same issues just more so.
http://www.goldeagle.com/UserFiles/f...ed_Gasline.pdf

So take that as you will.
Sta-bil is also making an ethanol version of their traditional Sta-bil product now it seems. But again looks to be pointed toward E10 not E85.
Golden Eagle (the manufacturer of Sta-bil) has the following white paper about gasoline on their website. They do talk about Ethanol blended fuels (but nor specifically E85) and the challenges with them. E85 will have the same issues just more so.
http://www.goldeagle.com/UserFiles/f...ed_Gasline.pdf
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I start my car, even in the Winter at least once a week, so this would be more of a maintenance solution if it actually works.
Right now my injectors have been sent to Injector Dynamics so they can take a peak at what happens with long term E85 use on their injectors. I'm kind of one of their guinea pigs.
I am planning on getting one of those flex fuel sensors so I can add pump gas when I want.
Right now my injectors have been sent to Injector Dynamics so they can take a peak at what happens with long term E85 use on their injectors. I'm kind of one of their guinea pigs.
I am planning on getting one of those flex fuel sensors so I can add pump gas when I want.
I start my car, even in the Winter at least once a week, so this would be more of a maintenance solution if it actually works.
Right now my injectors have been sent to Injector Dynamics so they can take a peak at what happens with long term E85 use on their injectors. I'm kind of one of their guinea pigs.
I am planning on getting one of those flex fuel sensors so I can add pump gas when I want.
Right now my injectors have been sent to Injector Dynamics so they can take a peak at what happens with long term E85 use on their injectors. I'm kind of one of their guinea pigs.
I am planning on getting one of those flex fuel sensors so I can add pump gas when I want.
Wonder if this is something we should be doing to our E85 powered cars?
Lucas Safeguard Ethanol Fuel Conditioner : Lucas Oil
Lucas Safeguard Ethanol Fuel Conditioner : Lucas Oil
My car sat for 2.5 yrs with 1/2 tank of e85 in it and no engine and lines were not sealed. In MN this means ranging temps and humidity of -30 to 90deg and 0-90%. When I got an engine back in it I thought I would have issues...nothing, started right up and was perfect...food for thought.
Chris
Chris
My car sat for 2.5 yrs with 1/2 tank of e85 in it and no engine and lines were not sealed. In MN this means ranging temps and humidity of -30 to 90deg and 0-90%. When I got an engine back in it I thought I would have issues...nothing, started right up and was perfect...food for thought.
Chris
Chris
It has been in a climate controlled garage indoors as well.
was waiting to get back on the dyno then I had meant to burn that tank out and let it sit for the winter with regular gas in it ( have easily switchable dual maps ) but we got the hurricane and I just havent had the time to take the car out since.
the bitch of it is once you put the oil in the gas its a pain in the *** to dispose of, usually you can just leave it in a bucket on a sunny day and it evaporates pretty darn quick but you still have the oil.
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