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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 04:49 PM
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Cool 2 way security setups

greetings, I am still using my key to unlock my car and its not something I want to continue to do in the future. I was wondering what kind of setups other forum members are using in terms of keyless entry and perhaps a remote start? I wrote security setup b/c that's usually what it's categorized under, my car is always in a garage so that isn't the issue Just wanted to know what is good for the 7 to use that works with the stock anti theft setup that functions.

Here is what I want in the features:

keyless entry, remote start, turn stock security on and off with a press of a button, etc.

Any recommendations will be cool

thank you ahead of time!
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 05:30 PM
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If you have a manual vehicle, you will have to use a remote start system designed for a manual car. You have to push a button on the remote before you get out. Then the system will take over running the car. You then take the keys out and the car will stay running. you then have to get out of the car and close the door (while it is still running). Then you lock the car. That car will shut off and you will be able to remote start it. If you unlock the car for any reason before remote starting it... it will not remote start.

This is the only legal way to have a manual vehicle equipped with a remote start system.
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 05:41 PM
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Guy next door to my job has a remote start on his civic. Only way for it to start is if the car is in neutral. I guess its either a safety option or he just wired it to work that way.

Its a viper unit although i dont know what model.

As for me, i have an alpine that locks the car automatically. I dont know how to operate the unlock part and i had the car for 5 years!! lol

I do have a feature that will close the windows. (not to open them though)

I like the remote start feature but not on a stick car. I have the habit of leaving the car in gear and imagine if you forget car is in gear and do the remote start?

Ouch!
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 05:54 PM
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Yes. I forgot to add, if your vehicle has an operational neutral sensor, that can be used in lieu of the above routine.
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Originally Posted by Monkman33
If you have a manual vehicle, you will have to use a remote start system designed for a manual car. You have to push a button on the remote before you get out. Then the system will take over running the car. You then take the keys out and the car will stay running. you then have to get out of the car and close the door (while it is still running). Then you lock the car. That car will shut off and you will be able to remote start it. If you unlock the car for any reason before remote starting it... it will not remote start.

This is the only legal way to have a manual vehicle equipped with a remote start system.
On some systems you can configure it to work the way it would for an automatic by toggling some internal options. Very much system-specific though and probably not legal.

I had a remote start on a car once and got bored with it very quickly. It is a nice trick but unless you live in a super cold area and want to pre-warm up a car it wears thin quickly.
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 06:35 PM
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I agree. Remote start, if not used in colder climates, is for people who are lazy or want to show off.

I remember i was at the movies and when the movie ends, everyone goes home since its the last showing. People walk to their car and like 50 feet before they go to their car, they'll start it with the remote.

Im like wow cool for them, its like 70 degrees outside and you want that 15 second headstart.

Its cool if the car comes with it but idk, i dont think its worth the 200+ dollars.

Unless you get one with a shitload of features, then yeah i guess.

Not to mention that most FD's still need the car started in gear to disable the AWS feature.

How embarassing is it for you to start the FD and it revs to 3 grand. People will think the car will explode LOL
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 06:39 PM
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But what about the keyless entry cause u jsut go to just any alarm place to get them for teh fd3s
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 06:43 PM
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I believe you will need to add door actuators for the keyless entry idea.
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by moconnor
On some systems you can configure it to work the way it would for an automatic by toggling some internal options. Very much system-specific though and probably not legal.

I had a remote start on a car once and got bored with it very quickly. It is a nice trick but unless you live in a super cold area and want to pre-warm up a car it wears thin quickly.
im interested in this as well. but if you were to put in an alarm, would you have to put some sort of poppers or mechanisms to actually get the door locks to lock and unlock. there is no power door lock buttons. would a non factory alarm be able to lock and unlock the doors wit out additional aid to the door locks?
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 06:57 PM
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But what about the keyless entry cause u jsut go to just any alarm place to get them for teh fd3s
you can do what i did and disable the remote locking feature anyway. i believe its Clifford has an alarm with a range of 3 miles more fi you get the sat one that's a pager. i left it so my door would open but the alarm would sound instantly with a very unpleasant surprise inside... it works too well and no broken windows!
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 08:51 PM
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You can get pretty much any alarm installed into the FD. Although you will need actuators. The power locks on the FD are set up as a "follow me" system from the driver's door to the passengers. Any alarm shop can do this for you. I personally have a CodeAlarm two way paging system on my car that reaches much like the clifford mentioned above. It has a long range and when it chirps or is set off it pages my remote and then I can respond accordingly...

The remote start is a waster personally unless you live in a cold climate and drive the car often when it is cold. BUT you said the car is garaged so the remote start is a waste if you ask me. But to each his own.
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 10:35 PM
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I seen alarms in stick shift cars to where people override all the safety crap and hook it up to there hand brake. To where the hand brake has to be in the set position in order to start but I saw some dump asses leave it in gear with the brake in the set position and go to remote start it and the car takes off and hit there garage door before dyeing out and totaly messing up there front end.
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Originally Posted by existanzrx7
I seen alarms in stick shift cars to where people override all the safety crap and hook it up to there hand brake. To where the hand brake has to be in the set position in order to start but I saw some dump asses leave it in gear with the brake in the set position and go to remote start it and the car takes off and hit there garage door before dyeing out and totaly messing up there front end.
The hand brake will not keep the car from moving forward if it tries to remote start it in gear.

And it is illegal to set it up that way.
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i believe the new compustar has everything you want, i got it not too long ago and it is quite nice.
i do not remeber which compustar model it was, did not keep the pamphlet, sorry can't help you on that.
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Originally Posted by Monkman33
If you have a manual vehicle, you will have to use a remote start system designed for a manual car. You have to push a button on the remote before you get out. Then the system will take over running the car. You then take the keys out and the car will stay running. you then have to get out of the car and close the door (while it is still running). Then you lock the car. That car will shut off and you will be able to remote start it. If you unlock the car for any reason before remote starting it... it will not remote start.

This is the only legal way to have a manual vehicle equipped with a remote start system.
What system do you use and will this conflict with my turbo timer?
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Old Feb 24, 2009 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by moconnor
On some systems you can configure it to work the way it would for an automatic by toggling some internal options. Very much system-specific though and probably not legal.

I had a remote start on a car once and got bored with it very quickly. It is a nice trick but unless you live in a super cold area and want to pre-warm up a car it wears thin quickly.
I live in NY where the 4 seasons kick hard, plus I never drive my car without it being warmed up on the temp gauge. It would be nice to start her up before I come downstairs to the car and perhaps it will already be warmed up by the time I reach her

I'll reconsider the remote start system but would like to know if there are security systems that will work with the stock alarm system? Didn't the original keys come with remote to unlock the doors and disable the alarm? I would at least like to figure out where to get this remote to get the keyless entry settled down so I wouldn't have to keep using my keys to open the door :\
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any alarm system with a negative pulse output on disarm will work with the stock alarm, I use the negative pulse from the auto lock, and tapped into the dark greeen with the black stripe and add a diode N4001 in between

as for keyless entry, you'll need to add an actulator to the driver side, and these are fairly cheap found at any stereo shop. it's the labor that's going to get you.

funny that you guys are worried about a remote start being legal or not, gosh you already drive an FD (GOT MODS?)
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Old Feb 24, 2009 | 11:53 AM
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any alarm system with a negative pulse output on disarm will work with the stock alarm, I use the negative pulse from the auto lock, and tapped into the dark greeen with the black stripe and add a diode N4001 in between
I'm looking for brands and possibly an actual unit that someone uses on the forum with success not looking for information on "how" to wire a device.
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i've always had great success with DEI products, I have Clifford 3.5 matrix on mine and put in a Viper in another FD forgot the model number
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I recommend DEI products, I installed many of these with very little issues over the past couple years but the installer makes the alarm reliable more than the manufacturer does.
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DEI? I never heard of them but I will look into them, I'm doing a search on google and doesn't look like they have an official page for their products. DEI = Directed Electronics?
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DEI is Direct Electronics - http://www.directed.com/Products/Security/Default.aspx
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DEI? I never heard of them but I will look into them, I'm doing a search on google and doesn't look like they have an official page for their products. DEI = Directed Electronics?
sorry yeah they make viper, python and clifford.
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What system do you use and will this conflict with my turbo timer?
I believe DEI actually has a model with a turbo timer function built into the system. Makes everything much simpler.

I will see if I can find out which one it is.
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Originally Posted by insomniac
any alarm system with a negative pulse output on disarm will work with the stock alarm, I use the negative pulse from the auto lock, and tapped into the dark greeen with the black stripe and add a diode N4001 in between

as for keyless entry, you'll need to add an actulator to the driver side, and these are fairly cheap found at any stereo shop. it's the labor that's going to get you.

funny that you guys are worried about a remote start being legal or not, gosh you already drive an FD (GOT MODS?)

Its funny how you think it is funny.

I have seen someone get literally RAN over by a car that had no-one in it... because of an illegally installed remote start system.

The Ebrake WAS on. But it will lurch forwards anyways.

A modified exhaust isn't going to crush a child between two parked cars if someone accidentally remote starts their vehicle in gear. A larger turbo isn't going to do this (although some claim to eat babies), racing seats won't do this, etc.

So you see, there is a danger with an illegally installed remote start system. And, the lawsuits that you would be undertaking would be a bonus too. And the fact that if you kill someone, you are responsible for vehicular manslaughter I or II depending on the judge.
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