^^^^^. Im with you. We have all spun out or had to check our shorts after a miss hap. The only way you get better at driving is by having these close calls. His was a little more than a close call but **** happens. Its just unfortunate that he was in a FD. The only time its stupid is after you **** it up, or after you realize what could of happened.

 

Well duh, but I was referring to trying to drift or making the street into a road coarse or slaloming traffic, just immature ****. Granted, I have raced, but only when my car/life were the only, and I mean ONLY (save the opponent of course, but thats his/her ****) the only things in my hands. I don't speed, EVER! I'm usually right at the limit simply because I know and understand the consequences well enough that I have weighed them out and prefer not to have that kind of **** on me. Not only that, but I'm in Texas with a Florida tag, license, and title so the last thing I need is unwanted attention from people to call the cops on me. Honestly, I don't do stupid ****. Yes I drive a sports car, yes I'm only 17. Yet again I'm steriotyped and forced to be considered a liar, a delinquent, and a wreckless driver simply because I'm not above the age of legal drinking. I have to live with this **** and it makes me feel old. So please, don't judge me simply on the status of my age and what I drive.

 

The age card has been used by many in this forum, but older drivers do have more wisdom and skill than MOST young driver, but hey people will always make mistakes at any age just because they are older doesn't mean they are excempt from making mistakes like us, but unfortunately for this guy he made a mistake and probably was thinking straight, I'm just glad he is alright and hope that not many other younger drivers get to make the same mistake as this guy, otherwise the FD will become extinct and will have wasted my life waiting for the day i would be able to own one.

 

yeah.. and after all those close calls it really makes you sit back and think what could have happened or what could you have slammed into or hit or blah blah blah.. we learn from our mistakes.. but whoevers fd that was.. he just made a little bigger mistake.. hopefully he too will learn from it and not make the same mistake again.

 

well we are all gonna be judged on age and what we drive, but who says he was trying to drift.. or whatever.. that was just an assumtion.


so say he was trying to drift.. well then he is an idiot, but that doesnt mean he should be shot or whatever the hell half of you are saying. well i had a point to this post but im watching a movie and compeltely lost my train of thought.. sooo

on a side note... buy my car! thanks bye.

 

I do not have a problem with you coming down on people who get into accidents because they are stupid.. but I have a MAJOR problem with you bashing people who get tickets. So I get pulled for going 74 in a 65, now I should pay $10,000 a year for insurance.. what if I get another ticket for, say, 42 in a 35? Should I be uninsurable and never own a car? What a stupid-*** narrow-minded statement. /end rant

 

get a uniden (police scanner).

solved all my friends ticket problems

 

wow!

 

What's going on? Haven't read all the rants...

 

SERIES7, a kid crashed his (modded) FD, and it's a catalyst for thought and discussion, some opinions are more heated than others. Here's my thoughts:

I personally feel that there should be a graduated licensing system similar to that of Europe: young drivers should only be allowed to drive vehicles that meet certain weight & power criteria. Even the most responsible teens are still going to be lacking the skills to recover from a loss of control, whether they induced it or not. Adding a powerful car is just going to allow a smaller margin of error due to the increased speeds.

I'm incredibly surprised that nobody has chimed in with "KEEP IT ON THE TRACK" yet, this was always brought up on the Subaru forums I used to visit. A performance driving school could have prevented this from happening, even if it was a case of obstacle avoidance or traction management. That said, the A-pillar mounted gauges, resonated midpipe, and exhaust make me think this kid probably had more speed than he could handle, and wasn't incredibly responsible to boot.

I rode a motorcycle for a couple years, and later spent another couple years autocrossing an Impreza off and on, both of these things helped improve my driving greatly. I've had my RX-7 for over half a year now, and I still spin the car when I drive sloppy or try to push beyond my ability. No problem, cones buff out just fine, and the worst thing I might do to my car is flat-spot the tires or wear out the shocks prematurely. In exchange, I've got a good sense of the car's limits now, and I know to stay way beneath them on the streets. After track driving, I feel no need to push my car on streets: it's both boring and risky.

-s-

 

Could you elaborate on this? I'm not quite sure I understand how a scanner will tell you a cop's in the area...unless you hear the cop announce his presence?? (I just don't see him saying "I'm right over the hill on Rt 7 westbound, past the church" just as you come to that area... lol)

 

ask your self does it really matter. so what if he was driftng. I drift every now and then grannet i got experance but you got to learn some hom and no one who drifts doesnt hit someting eventually the trick it to practice in a pos the move up to a beter car and only drift when you know you can make the turn and when people can see you do it. but that just made the resale of our cars go up so yall youngins please keep driftin and just dont hit my car !!

 

Wow...

 

That works for me! 5 years owning my FD w/no tickets or accidents.

 

How often do you drive it?

 

So sad, whatever the story of the death....so sad.

 

Too often! About 5k miles a year

 

<------------- Impressed hehe. I've been pretty much incident free, until this past summer...when I got pulled over TWICE in the SAME WEEK lol. One speeding, and one no front plates...

 

This little boy that crashed his high-performance car in a one-car crash is a full-blooded pansy. The effeminates who coddle this little boy should hold his weiner for him. His parent(s) is/are weiner(s), too, for unleashing his/her/their demonic offspring onto society's pubic roads. To the boy, his parent(s), and the effeminates who stick up for him: You are products of "The Age of the Wimp".

How "Little Mister Smarty Pants" manages to destroy an FD is typical of "The Wimp". I couldn't care less that this boy didn't get hurt or not, just so long as he doesn't kill or maim others. This was the boy's decision to crash his car. If he did get crippled or killed, it would prevent him from injuring others that have to share the road with him because he would likely be unable to drive.

Why is it that every time he gets into the driver's seat, he's getting into the driver's seat for the first time. Every time he drives the same road, he's driving that road for the first time.

How will you defend him the next time he crashes "for the first time"? Surely one of the wimps who is sticking up for him can answer these perplexing questions for us.

 

Ouch!

 

Thank-you. Hmmm, it has been brought to my attention that this boy has crashed a car prior to this one. It was a '92 Civic. H3h!

 

Fixed.

Its not just kids -- I see plenty of retarded adults, in the 22-70 age range that do more retarded things than myself or any of my friends would over consider in our vehicles. I have been involved in two accidents... one I was driving the other I was a passenger. The other driver was a fault BOTH times, one being 25 the other was 38.

Bottom line. I am 19 -- I bought my FD with my money, I bought the Thunderbird I had before it with my money. I drove them both to the extent of my capabilities and I sometimes push the limits. I do that because unless you near the limits you will never learn them and you'll find them at the worst time. I am responsible around other vehicles and do not break the laws in traffic. You cant bitch about 17-19 year olds being the worst drivers as that isnt always true. If they were raised to be good and responsible drivers/people then they will be.

Please dont make crude assumptions about young people -- old people have plenty of issues as well. It doesnt matter if they are young or old, if they suck with a car they will suck with a car. This is to EVERYONE, not just certian people.

~Kris

 

It's true often enough that you can make the assumption that they are. If you're truly a responsible driver at your age, then you're the exception to the rule, not evidence for disputing it.

Insurance companies don't stay in business by making uninformed decisions. Younger drivers pay higher premiums for a reason, not just because people assume that they're inexperienced and irresponsible behind the wheel. Statistics prove that they're inexperienced and irresponsible behind the wheel.

BTW, if you think you should be pushing the limits of your car on public roads to find out where they are, then you're not as responsible as you'd like to think you are, whether other traffic is around or not.

 

That is a great point, but there is a time and a place for everything. The ONLY good place to explore the limits of a high-performance vehicle, or a low-performance vehicle for that matter, is on the racetrack. Trying to avoid traffic is a good idea, but it will always be "the one you don't see" that gets you. Even if you have the skills to control your car, there are too many odds against you. If you're pushing even 7/10ths, you're driving too fast to significantly change your line mid-corner. If something happened to be in the road, like a patch of gravel, a boulder, or a child, you won't be able to avoid it.

I'm not saying this to try to ruin your fun, quite the opposite. Driving in a controlled environment is the greatest sense of freedom you will ever feel, you can push your car further than you have ever been able to and not worry about anything. In a timed event, you can compare your driving against other people in different cars, and watch yourself improve. At the autocrosses, you will meet a lot of friendly people with common interests, many of them have been racing for a long time. If you're trusting enough you can let them show you what your car is capable of, then try to match or beat their time. It's not nearly as easy as it sounds.

http://www.scca.com/Solo/Solo2.asp

 

Huh? I didn't say that THIS driver was trying to drift, I stated that I DON'T try that kind of ****. I also never said anything about shooting the bloke (wow, I've never used that word. "BLOKE". LOL, say it a few times, it sounds kinda funny)...sorry. Got sidetracked as well, lol. Anyway, I honestly do kinda feel sorry for the kid for wrecking an FD.

On another side note, what is your car, mods, and price?