1QWIK7

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First off its "you're".

Second chasing them and chasing them down is the same thing. Especially since you defined your "chased them" comment as keeping equal "spacing".

Lastly. Take a pic of your engine bay to show you don't have fans. Either you're lying about not running fans or you simply don't daily drive your car or at all.

You live in florida, one of the states that stay WARM all year and you have no fans?

What do you do at long stop lights? In traffic? Do you not get stuck in traffic? Im not talking about a brief 5 second halt at a stop sign. Im talking about real world traffic. If you daily that car you experience that. No ifs ands or buts.

So I call bs on your story.

I still lol @ 190 though. That's hilarious. Let me guess. Just a bolt on fd too right? Lol

1QWIK7

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Btw 297kph is 184-185mph, not 190, but its still lol.

seandizzie

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I have a taller than stock tires my speedo reads slow, at 60 on the dash the radar boxes tell me I am going 62,63.

The fans are still on the car unplugged. They shorted out I used to run them all the time until they burned up. Running fans on high all the time will shortn life.

1QWIK7

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Better to change fan motors than the engine.

I have set my fans on manually since the day i had the car in my driveway, over 8 years ago and so far the fans run strong. I dont use them on high ever but i do put them to work each and everytime i drive my car, like ANY CAR.

Some people really forget how often cars use their fans. Drive a normal car one day and do your daily errands. Your fans come on A LOT.

I still dont believe you run no fans, ever. Sorry that is just impossible. You dont live on the highway where you can always have the car in motion. Daily driving WILL require you to stop. YOu can be boosting one moment and have to stop at a light. There goes your water temp shooting for the sky. Without fans, you're done. Nothing you can say that will prove otherwise.

You need fans.

93rx74lyfe

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I don't like to agree with ^^ with all the "this" and squabbling bull **** but there is no way you aren't using fans to control your temps. Its just not possible.

1QWIK7

iTrader: (33)

this

twinsinside

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I can't understand why you'd even want to run without fans, since these things generate ridiculous amounts of heat.

What happens that one time you're forced to sit still for 10-15 minutes?

seandizzie

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I didn't think it would work either. If I sit stopped yes the car will over heat. If it comes to that i will shut the engine off.

I had just happened to get back from crusing with my buddies and was pretty hyped up about what we just did, it was a blast, had not had a day off work in a few months. I swear I am not blowing smoke up your ***. The bikes I was playin with were a 08cbr1000rr, and an 04 GSXR1000. Both modded no speed governer, freakin fast bikes.

I just don't see how a car being driven normally can have high water temps, when I have mine floored for 2 miles in 5th not getting hotter than 89c. Just doesn't seem right.

yzf-r1

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Ha, I'm not the only one who noticed

Btw, the stock front fascia on the '93-'95 RX-7 flows plenty of air, that isn't the problem

1QWIK7

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Sorry man but your story makes no sense.

You are seriously claiming the impossible.

We drive one of the easiest heat generating cars and you're gonna go WOT, in warm climate, for 2 miles, come to a stop and WITH NO fans, have the gauge read 89c?

Do you even know how ridiculous cool that temp is? Even for a car just idling from cold start up?

If you wanna believe your story in fantasy land that's fine but please don't say here just get good ducting and you're fine.

We need, and WANT our fans. Your engine is gonna become toast soon.

"If the car overheats I shut off the engine".

LOL.

Never heard of heatsoak?

TRWeiss1

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Oh God, this thread took an interesting turn....



Run no fans and just turn the car off if it overheats? Really? FWIW, I can easily see 88 deg C just driving normally on a hot/humid day, without really boosting at all. Of course that's bound to happen when running a FMIC...I also have a 160 deg t-stat, 80/20 water/coolant mix, Fluidyne rad, and fans coming on early.

ZE Power MX6

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You should record yourself doing a couple 2nd or 3rd gear pull, then park the car but leave it running, pop the hood and stair at the fans for about 5 mins with the camera to show us that the fans are indeed not running, then hop back into the car and show us your stock / aftermarket temp gauge, I wonder if the stock gauge going to be pointing West or pointing North

1QWIK7

iTrader: (33)

This.

I literall can hit 160f by the time I actually hit the highway from my house. That includes a 3 min warmup. Exiting my block, going straight about 1 mile, making right and going another 1/2 mile passing 2 lights, then finally entering the highway. All in 80+ degree weather.

Idk what the other guy was talking about with no fans.

hades

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probably not the source of the issue - but are you guys running really rich or really lean?

seandizzie

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Here is a short data log I did in April. It is the only one I have that will fit.

How do you upload Long data logs??

Cause I have one that has 600sec(2.5mb) of log driving at around 100 mph, one segment holding 130mph for 30 secs. Water temps ROCKSOLID at 83c the whole time. I can prove it...

So what happened to the guy that started this thread

seandizzie

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I have no fans cause they burned out. Leaving them disconnected and being able to get around for the past 10months astounded me. Its not going to last much longer though, I have a new fan, tired of shutting my car off at long traffic lights, Did you guys know when your engine isn't running it cools down and saves gas??


ZE m6 guy- I'll take sum video just 4 you!!

1quik7- I knoe what he was getting at. I can actully read what people write and comprehend their point. Even if there r sum sp-eline errorrrs

TRWeiss1

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Actually, your coolant temps first go UP after you shut your car off before they go down. :P This is because the hot coolant becomes stagnant since the water pump isn't circulating it through the cooling system (and your radiator fans aren't running, assuming you have them). The coolant has nowhere to go, so it radiates heat back to your rotor housings/irons/rotors/etc...

1QWIK7

iTrader: (33)

Lol now you're changing up the story.

Temps will stay relatively low at high speeds, even at high rpm. So now doubt there.

How about after that run, then you come to a light. What's your temp then??

If you say it hits 89c and stays after wot pulls in warm weather, you're lying or you have a faulty gauge.

Sorry its impossible.

seandizzie

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yes. but the engine is no longer generating heat, the heat energy is just being transfered to the water. thus over all you are adding less heat energy to the system, though the water gets hotter. when you crank the engine there is still a supply of cooler in the radiator water that you didn't heat letting the engine idle. think about it. run the engine for a shorter time it generates less heat over all.

seandizzie

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Well the original post was about a guy have slightly elevated temps under normal driving.

There arn't any traffic light where I am making these runs.

I am not lying and gauge isn't faulty. Do you have data logit software can you veiw the files??

Sorry it happened. I didn't come to a stop after that run. we had a few more miles of road left to tear up.

http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...dperry125&aq=f

Here is a link to sum videos of the bikers I go crusie with

TRWeiss1

iTrader: (20)

I don't disagree with the above statment. You're correct, you are no longer generating heat energy once the motor is off, so it will eventually cool down. HOWEVER, that being said it will heat soak, and the heat absorbed by the coolant WILL transfer back to the engine if the coolant isn't circulating. That was my only point, and this can be observed if you leave the key on [and watch coolant temps] after shutting the engine off.

MrNizzles

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I wanna know more details about this 190mph+ fd "chasing down", or "running with", or "cruising along" these other bikes. What kinda setup, besides the v-mount, is on there? Wouldn't that require a certain amount of hp to achieve? What size are those "taller" tires?

just sounds really cool, I wanna make my fd go 190mph+ !!!!

1Qwik7, my props to you for keeping your cool after being called a "dumb *******", (omg).

seandizzie

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Got ya. Been doing it. Shutting the car off for a min at a light doesn't allow the temps to climb from what I have seen latly.

Mr nizzle. 245/50/16- they are .6'' taller than a 225. As said i see62-63 at 60 on the radar boxes littered along the side of the road. Car has 35r 1.10bar boost, Ito sized streetport, Barry Bordes taught me how to port and tune(ask Barry about how freakishly cool my car runs, jonathan/Gorrillia re has been 160 in it). I built the motor, ra superseals atkins solid corner seals and sideseals(100psi on the front 95psi rearA). It has 12,500miles on it, that I have put on it in the last 10 months. Never had it dyno tuned but think I am 390-410 at the wheels. Apexi coil overs, all rear bushings replaced. No A/c P/s. All unneeded items removed from the hatch.

Just alot of open straits road. It never stoped accelerating I let out cause there was a blind hill and I didn't want to take flight.

My appologies to 1qwk7 for calling you an ******* . Don't call me a liar. That I am not

seandizzie

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdGNophJC-g

This is my car fliming kennys car. Jonathan is filming , barry is tuning kennys car.

At the time I was on 10 psi and stock ports with the 35r, kenny was on 10psi with stock turbos. I The onlytime I am floored in the video is the first 3 seconds and last 2. My car has a dumped wastegate, you can hear it.

1QWIK7

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lol you're still not getting it dude.

If the OP's original question was about normal driving, why even mention your 100+mph pulls? And your temps for that? Not everyone hits the 100mph when daily driving their regular car and/or FD.

You say your temps stay at 83c when you do these runs. Well duh, you're going that fast, im sure all that air will cool down the engine bay? Right? Or am i missing something? lol You still didnt answer me about after you're done making that turbo work, what is your temp when you come to a dead stop? With no fans?

You say you do these runs where theres no traffic lights. Ok thats cool. What about entering the town, to even get to your house? Lots of stop and go, and slow driving there. What about if theres an accident on the highway and you have to come to a dead stop? What happens if you get stuck at a railroad track and theres a train?

O yeah you shut off the engine. lol BUt then theres heatsoak. WHenever you shut off your car, your coolant temps rise before they decend. Thats a FACT.

YOur coolant isnt being circulated anymore so its just sitting there being cooked by the heat of the engine and its acc. Thus the temp going up.

I can take a video of my temp gauge sitting at 190F, ill shut off my car and i wont pop my hood (even though i always do after a drive), and i bet you my entire bank account it will rise 10F or more within 5 minutes.