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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 06:49 PM
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why does cold air cause my boost to spike?

why does cold weather cause my boost to creep/spike?

would manual, or profec b help remedy this? if so wich is better. will have a to4s put on soon. need to know wich to go with.

did a search, didnt quite get the answer i was looking for after about an hour.
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 07:00 PM
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A boost controller of any kind will help remedy this.

Colder air is denser which causes more air to enter your combustion chamber which results in more power and higher boost levels.

Profec B all the way

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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 07:06 PM
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If you are going to be going single, you had better be using an electronic boost controller.

Personally, I think it's kind of scary that you are going single and don't know why cold air makes the boost pressure raise with the stock ecu.....
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 09:13 PM
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The spikes will get worse as it gets colder out.
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 09:19 PM
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Originally posted by FormerPorscheGuy
Profec B all the way
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 09:23 PM
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Colder air takes less energy to compress, and because your turbos are working from the same amount of exhaust gas (producing the same amount of power going into the compressor side), and are operating at the same efficiency (sane temp etc) they are compressing more air.
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 09:52 PM
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Colder air takes less energy to compress, and because your turbos are working from the same amount of exhaust gas (producing the same amount of power going into the compressor side), and are operating at the same efficiency (sane temp etc) they are compressing more air.
mostly because cold air is denser
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 10:15 PM
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I'm doing thermo homework, and I just finished a turbocharger problem.....


so there.
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 11:03 PM
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I have the exact same problem with stock turbos. I've got a little boost creep and a boost of about 12psi (2 too high) on full throttle...

I have an m2 cold air intake and its been about 40 degrees out... i just hate driving the car in the cold weather but I gotta

personally, because i plan to mod the car more im going get a power fc in there ^_^
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Old Nov 15, 2003 | 12:50 AM
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Get your pfc and turn the boost down Cold air is good if you know that you're not gonna lean out under high boost, but definitely a no-no if you're not sure or if you think you're gonna lean out (i.e. more air cos it's denser + same amount of fuel = higher air/fuel ratio)
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Old Nov 15, 2003 | 03:31 PM
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Personally, I think it's kind of scary that you are going single and don't know why cold air makes the boost pressure raise with the stock ecu..... [/B][/QUOTE]




i have pfc, I just wanted to know if the contoller anticipates and corrects this problem.

i know cold air is denser I just didnt know why it made the psi higher.

basically the way you guys describe this phenomenon; if i had a super efficient intercooler that cooled the air to an unacheivable low temp i would experience the same effect? i know an intercooler cant work that well Im just trying to understand the physics of this.
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Old Nov 15, 2003 | 03:42 PM
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Originally posted by veilsidefd3
basically the way you guys describe this phenomenon; if i had a super efficient intercooler that cooled the air to an unacheivable low temp i would experience the same effect? i know an intercooler cant work that well Im just trying to understand the physics of this.
You got it.

A boost controller will limit your boost levels by allowing you to manually control your wastegates.


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Old Nov 15, 2003 | 04:44 PM
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The intercooler won't change the mass of the air much other than if you had an intercooler with zero pressure drop. The turbos are where the majic happens.
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Old Nov 15, 2003 | 05:07 PM
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Originally posted by DaedelGT
The intercooler won't change the mass of the air much other than if you had an intercooler with zero pressure drop.
Uh...what?
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