What's this hole in my door card?
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What's this hole in my door card?
I had assumed that the hole in my passenger door card beneath the armrest was prior owner shenanigans, but then I saw this photo which has the same shape hole in the same spot, Does anybody know what might have been here? Mine is a 93 touring with red interior.
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gracer7-rx7 (07-18-23)
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If you are referring to the hole in the centre of the panel, it is used for accessing one of the screws that bolt the door card to the door, which is usually covered by a cap (see pics below).
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I don't think that anyone has posted a paint match for FD red interior. I've found a couple of threads that provide clues:
This guy converted a tan interior to red, but went for the Spirit R look using SEM Flame Red. This post shows the SEM color chart with their available reds:
https://www.rx7club.com/interior-ext.../#post12187182
This post is an FD owner with a burgundy interior who accidentally chose the wrong SEM paint. He chose Firethorn Red, which looks a lot like the FD interior color:
https://www.rx7club.com/1st-gen-gene...oject-1151048/
There's also advice from the board (somewhere...) that says to take your most faded piece of small interior to the paint store and have them match it. Any paint store should be able to provide the paint in a spray (or so I've read).
For $10 I've TOFTM and ordered a SEM color chart. Will post pictures against my red interior when it arrives. Meanwhile, I'm itching to try this crazy technique for chairs:
This guy converted a tan interior to red, but went for the Spirit R look using SEM Flame Red. This post shows the SEM color chart with their available reds:
https://www.rx7club.com/interior-ext.../#post12187182
This post is an FD owner with a burgundy interior who accidentally chose the wrong SEM paint. He chose Firethorn Red, which looks a lot like the FD interior color:
https://www.rx7club.com/1st-gen-gene...oject-1151048/
There's also advice from the board (somewhere...) that says to take your most faded piece of small interior to the paint store and have them match it. Any paint store should be able to provide the paint in a spray (or so I've read).
For $10 I've TOFTM and ordered a SEM color chart. Will post pictures against my red interior when it arrives. Meanwhile, I'm itching to try this crazy technique for chairs:
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they had a shelf of the SEM stuff and i just tried a couple. the 84-85 Rx7 is tough to match, the closest was the SEM Burgundy, but its a bluer red than the factory color which is almost an orange
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I got my SEM chart in the mail and took some photos. Based on the SEM color chart, I would say that Portola Red is the closest match, but it's not a perfect match. Granted, these are 30 year old panels with some fade on them, but I think the FD red interior plastics are slightly brighter (I'd say 1/3 the distance between Portola and Flame red) than Portola while the leather seats are slightly more burgundy.
First picture: This is the interior door card. This first photo is taken inside the car in a garage with an LED light shining on it. In this light, it's quite close to Portola red.
Picture 2: This is the red leather seat. It looks a lot more burgundy in this photo, but in real life it's not quite so stark, but there's definitely an observable difference in hue. But you'd probably be using a leather dye anyway for the seats. So far I have not been able to find if there's a code so probably would need to be color matched. I think Portola might work for the lacquer thinner trick from the youtube video I posted in this thread. I have some big tears so am going to try out leather patching and try to source a color matched dye.
Picture 3: This is the door sill cover which is easy to take off and so allowed me to move it into different lights. Here, Firethorn red is way off so I eliminated it from the running immediately.
Picture 4: This is the sill cover outside, in direct sunlight. Here it looks darker than Portola but that's probably just the camera. In direct sunlight with the naked eye, the sill still looked pretty close to Portola (see more photos below).
Picture 5: Portola red is to the left, and here's Flame red. In exterior light like this, the Flame Red looks closer but in real life not quite so much. But even in this photo you can see how Flame Red is not a good match because it doesn't have the same degree of overtones. Only toward the right edge, where the sunlight washes away the trim's overtones does it start to look like a match for Flame Red, and I don't think you'd ever see those conditions in the actual interior. There might also be a little reflecting going on in the photo.
Picture 6: This is the underside of the sill cover. I figured the underside would be closer to factory colors, and it is indeed darker. To the naked eye, in interior light, I couldn't tell the difference between Portola and the actual plastic color. Note how in this photo that the sill tips slightly more in the burgundy direction. I've grown to appreciate the small disparity between my seats and my interior plastics, thinking it was a design choice, but perhaps that's fading plastics and the look was actually intended to be more uniform. Maybe someone with a garage trophy car could tell us.
Picture 7: One more photo of the sill in exterior light, trying to get a better camera angle. Here, Portola looks pretty damn close. Angles and texture make a big difference.
Picture 8: This photo captures best how the actual FD red interior color lies somewhere between Portola and Flame reds. To me, this is very close to what I was seeing with the naked eye. One has to wonder whether blended coats would get you a near match (at least per my current interior with it's 30 year fade).
First picture: This is the interior door card. This first photo is taken inside the car in a garage with an LED light shining on it. In this light, it's quite close to Portola red.
Picture 2: This is the red leather seat. It looks a lot more burgundy in this photo, but in real life it's not quite so stark, but there's definitely an observable difference in hue. But you'd probably be using a leather dye anyway for the seats. So far I have not been able to find if there's a code so probably would need to be color matched. I think Portola might work for the lacquer thinner trick from the youtube video I posted in this thread. I have some big tears so am going to try out leather patching and try to source a color matched dye.
Picture 3: This is the door sill cover which is easy to take off and so allowed me to move it into different lights. Here, Firethorn red is way off so I eliminated it from the running immediately.
Picture 4: This is the sill cover outside, in direct sunlight. Here it looks darker than Portola but that's probably just the camera. In direct sunlight with the naked eye, the sill still looked pretty close to Portola (see more photos below).
Picture 5: Portola red is to the left, and here's Flame red. In exterior light like this, the Flame Red looks closer but in real life not quite so much. But even in this photo you can see how Flame Red is not a good match because it doesn't have the same degree of overtones. Only toward the right edge, where the sunlight washes away the trim's overtones does it start to look like a match for Flame Red, and I don't think you'd ever see those conditions in the actual interior. There might also be a little reflecting going on in the photo.
Picture 6: This is the underside of the sill cover. I figured the underside would be closer to factory colors, and it is indeed darker. To the naked eye, in interior light, I couldn't tell the difference between Portola and the actual plastic color. Note how in this photo that the sill tips slightly more in the burgundy direction. I've grown to appreciate the small disparity between my seats and my interior plastics, thinking it was a design choice, but perhaps that's fading plastics and the look was actually intended to be more uniform. Maybe someone with a garage trophy car could tell us.
Picture 7: One more photo of the sill in exterior light, trying to get a better camera angle. Here, Portola looks pretty damn close. Angles and texture make a big difference.
Picture 8: This photo captures best how the actual FD red interior color lies somewhere between Portola and Flame reds. To me, this is very close to what I was seeing with the naked eye. One has to wonder whether blended coats would get you a near match (at least per my current interior with it's 30 year fade).
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