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Old May 1, 2002 | 01:15 AM
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What can our cars beat with stock boost?

I was wondering what our cars can beat with our stock boost configuration?
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Old May 1, 2002 | 01:18 AM
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i think it all depends on the driver.
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Old May 1, 2002 | 01:22 AM
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Old May 1, 2002 | 01:24 AM
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it is half driver...but you should be able to beat any of the stock LT1 cars...you could take the supra, 300z, older vr4, wrx, and with good driving you may be able to beat the new ls1 z28's...you could even beat an automatic c5 like i did...so yeah the list is pretty long...but your main competition is the new domestic ls1's...assuming you're talking about stock vs stock
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Old May 1, 2002 | 01:27 AM
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What is an LTI? and cant we destroy lightly modded rustangs?
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Old May 1, 2002 | 01:32 AM
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LT1 are the F body GM cars (trans am, z28, ss, corvette) you should be able to take them religiously they are the ones that ran from 93-97 i believe...you can mutilate mustangs i'm not even gonna mention those...as long as they are stock to near stock they aren't a problem. Exhaust and intake will have them close but not close enough...add in headers and they may take you...you can also beat the boxter, boxter type s, a bit earlier version of the carrera you should be able to beat as well...there is a lot...but the only way to find out is to race race race. Oh and those pesky VW's...the s4 stock you should beat, however those things are very restricted and a simple full piped exhaust will add hard horsepower on it quickly
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Old May 1, 2002 | 01:39 AM
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With down pipe and catback exhaust with knn drop in filter in the stock air box with stock boost pattern, cant we beat mustangs with head work and exhaust? I think we should easly mutilate them doesnt anybody else agree?
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Old May 1, 2002 | 01:44 AM
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with exhaust and downpipe and kn filter you should be running a bit higher than boost
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Old May 1, 2002 | 02:00 AM
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pesky vw's
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Old May 1, 2002 | 02:15 AM
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the s4 stock you should beat, however those things are very restricted and a simple full piped exhaust will add hard horsepower on it quickly
agreed, i have a buddy with one that is mildly modded. it is quite fast at lower speeds and it's pretty easy to make consistently fast runs.
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Old May 1, 2002 | 09:50 AM
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My car is bone stock and i have been able to kill the following:
All somewhat modded Hondas including S2000
All VW including modified ones
All Acuras, including stock NSXs
Subaru Impreza and WRX Stock
All Nissans stock or somewhat modded.

I gotta Say though stock cars only!!! because i was killed pretty bad by this Honda Civic Si Hatchback one time. He must of had NOS and Turbos. We were going about 120MPH on a HWY and all of the Suddent he was gone!!! Boosted up to 150MPH in a matter of seconds and i wasnt able to keep up for a while. SO...I must say it all comes down to how much you do to your cars and weight ratio does alot.

I know friends of mine with modded RX7 who are beating Vipers. They have 450whp and their rx7s have 350whp but it all comes down to the driver, weight ratio and of course mods

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Old May 1, 2002 | 09:53 AM
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It also depends wether you are Highway racing or from a dead stop.

ive killed american muscle cars on the highway because they are mainly torque and they loose a lot of power at higher RPMS
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Old May 1, 2002 | 10:33 AM
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I ran away from a Boxster S this past weekend, my mods are below. He really ran out of breathe over 130, I had about 20 car lengths on him by 150.
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Old May 1, 2002 | 10:46 AM
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My buddy has a 98 ws6 with a cam, port and polish, full exaust and fuel. and race ready suspension, and I take him by about 50mph in a drag race and then just walk way from him. also took a brand new carreera 4 from a roll.
My mods are 3 inch turboback, drop in k&N
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Old May 1, 2002 | 11:08 AM
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My buddy has a 98 ws6 with a cam, port and polish, full exaust and fuel. and race ready suspension, and I take him by about 50mph in a drag race and then just walk way from him. also took a brand new carreera 4 from a roll.
My mods are 3 inch turboback, drop in k&N
either bullshit, or your friend can't drive
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Old May 1, 2002 | 12:04 PM
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either bullshit, or your friend can't drive
Don't jump the gun buddy...Never over estimate a domestic car because they aren't as fast as everyone thinks they are...just because it's noisy doesn't mean it'll blow stink off ****. What is a trans am gonna do when it's just sitting there peeling watching you go by?
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Old May 1, 2002 | 12:16 PM
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I beat my friend's 94 NSX easily, it wasnt a straight line race though, but I think I'd win on that type of race as well. It was from a 35 mph roll.
Problem is his car still runs great and mine is just sitting in the garage
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Old May 1, 2002 | 12:32 PM
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3rd gen RX-7s at stock boost can beat so many cars, its a very long list.

i agree, it does depend on the driver a lot.

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Old May 1, 2002 | 12:38 PM
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Don't jump the gun buddy...Never over estimate a domestic car because they aren't as fast as everyone thinks they are...just because it's noisy doesn't mean it'll blow stink off ****. What is a trans am gonna do when it's just sitting there peeling watching you go by?
Don't underestimate a stranger's
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Stock WS6 will run 12.9(very rare) to a 13.3 any day of the week at sea level and that's been proven time and time again here in TEXAS HEAT!!

Even a mild cam is gonna give you 75hp. An aggressive one could easily see 125hp
Add, port and polish, plus a full exhaust, PLUS a drag suspension, on a car that already launches better than your RX7 will, and you are full of it, OR YOUR FRIEND CAN'T DRIVE.


Don't try to use traction as an excuse, because by your account you still walk him after 50.

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Old May 1, 2002 | 10:29 PM
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hung with a s/c 5.0 at 85 mph roll
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Old May 1, 2002 | 11:40 PM
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stock boost as in stock FD - just about any mods done to the FD will raise the boost- unless you have a pill or boost controller and "set" it to 10 psi - you would basically have a stock FD - even adding an exhaust can raise it to 11-9-11 patterns. Stock FDs run 13.5-14.0 at 100-101 mph. You can take LT1s, 300ZXs, WRXs, S2000s, run even with a C4 Vette, blah, blah. LS1s, C5s, new Cobras, newer NSXs will all walk you unless you mod.
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Old May 2, 2002 | 12:13 AM
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Originally posted by 93TTRX7
LT1 are the F body GM cars (trans am, z28, ss, corvette) you should be able to take them religiously they are the ones that ran from 93-97 i believe...
Slight correction. LT1 is the ID for the small block V-8 in F-body cars like the T/A, Z28, and C4 Vettes. Stock for stock, you should be able to hang even with them (and I'm talking bone stock; from the factory). You will start pulling on them from 80-120. Inherent problem with the push-rod technology, the one cam is overloaded at the higher rpms. From a stop, you will lose if you can't launch exceptionally well. LT1's have a lot of torque ... they'll get a car or two at the start and you'll have to reel him in through the higher gears.

you can mutilate mustangs i'm not even gonna mention those...as long as they are stock to near stock they aren't a problem. Exhaust and intake will have them close but not close enough...add in headers and they may take you...
New 2000 GT's come out-of-the-box running mid to high 13's. Check your stats ... so did stock RX-7's. Older Mustang's should be handled with relative ease. New GT's and Cobra's should be approached with caution. In other words, you might get beat.

you can also beat the boxter, boxter type s, a bit earlier version of the carrera you should be able to beat as well...there is a lot...but the only way to find out is to race race race.
I'm not convinced on this debate. I've run evenly with some late model Carrera's and even a Carrera 4. The C4 should have handed me my ***. And I'm too lazy to look up times on Porsches ... no, I'm too jealous. **** those guys. Boxsters should present no challenge .... but Boxster S's are another beast. Remember they do contain the same flat six that powers the new 911's.

Oh and those pesky VW's...the s4 stock you should beat, however those things are very restricted and a simple full piped exhaust will add hard horsepower on it quickly
And they'll still be over 4000 lbs. All that horsepower and ALL that WEIGHT. They're still pigs ... END of argument.

Cars that you will encounter that put a flutter in my stomach as they roll up, by, or screaming past me?

MKIV TT Supra
Camaro Z28 (LS1-powered)
Pontiac T/A WS6
C5 Vettes (especially Z06's)
911 (and all its brethren ... newer 996 models, that is)
and cars that go WHHIIIIRRR and PSSSTTT really loud right next to me. (read: single turbo)

Generally speaking, most Supra's will **** on you. LS1's will walk you ... badly. Let's just not talk about the LS6. And, 911's (with abiding drivers) will run circles around you (I'm of the opinion that most Porsche drivers are absolute wusses ... all show, no go). What's that? ... oh yeah, time to upgrade.

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Old May 2, 2002 | 12:55 AM
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what about a 88 (im not 100% sure on this year) porsche 944 turbo s ? ive heard those things run mid 13's out of the box, so do 1st gen DSM's with about $700 dumped into em ... or maybe even the 968's ... but we all know drag racing a porsche does not even come to close to measureing its performance level
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Old May 2, 2002 | 01:48 AM
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Originally posted by phatmonky
Don't underestimate a stranger's
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Stock WS6 will run 12.9(very rare) to a 13.3 any day of the week at sea level and that's been proven time and time again here in TEXAS HEAT!!

Even a mild cam is gonna give you 75hp. An aggressive one could easily see 125hp
Add, port and polish, plus a full exhaust, PLUS a drag suspension, on a car that already launches better than your RX7 will, and you are full of it, OR YOUR FRIEND CAN'T DRIVE.


Don't try to use traction as an excuse, because by your account you still walk him after 50.
I think you might have missed the part about stock cars...so yeah...WS6's 13.3 or 13.4 against the Rx-7's 13.8 or 13.9 (gee i really see the WS6 running away with this one lol)
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Old May 2, 2002 | 01:54 AM
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I walked on a c4 corvette badly...2 or 3 cars, it was automatic though. Strangely enough he used to own a base model RX-7 before he sold it. The LS-1 camaro is beatable..the thing with american cars is you have to know how to launch it. Too much torque and horsepower is just gonna peel out all day. Same with a supra if it's not launched right. The light car has a nice advantage off launch...that's what makes the 7 so strong atleast in my opinion. I can shift and launch really well, you just have to know your car and hope that your opponent doesn't know his too well. I forgot to mention stay away from the new Cobra's and Cobra R's...the older ones you should be able to beat.
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