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Old 05-02-02, 02:07 AM
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A Cobra R and the new Cobras are easy to beat man, with exhaust work and open intake with upgraded ecu, those things can take a hike
Old 05-02-02, 08:29 AM
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Originally posted by meddle
My buddy has a 98 ws6 with a cam, port and polish, full exaust and fuel. and race ready suspension, and I take him by about 50mph in a drag race and then just walk way from him. also took a brand new carreera 4 from a roll.
My mods are 3 inch turboback, drop in k&N

Originally posted by 93TTRX7


I think you might have missed the part about stock cars...so yeah...WS6's 13.3 or 13.4 against the Rx-7's 13.8 or 13.9 (gee i really see the WS6 running away with this one lol)

And you may missed the part where he claimed to beat a modded, faster car. You sure ran away with that one.....

Old 05-02-02, 08:48 AM
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WS6 with cams, bored out, upgraded fuel control, and full exhaust ... low 12's, high 11's car (on slicks) and he "takes him by 50mph in a drag race and then just walks away from him." All in a stock FD with a K&N drop-in filter, and exhaust .... hah, hah, that's a good one.

Maybe you forgot to mention, "after he put 3-4 cars on me at the launch and slowed down at 50mph ... then I took him and just walked away from him".

That's almost as good as the "I pulled on a TT Supra in 5th gear" .....
Old 05-02-02, 09:01 AM
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It was luxury car day. I took a SL600 AMG v12
the only reason I took on this car was the fast that the guy that as driving was all smug when I was getting gas next to him. I followed him onto the interest and handed him is high $$$$ car a loss. Now who is smiling now Not much a race with a audio TT again on the interstate.
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Originally posted by :[TenzO]:
i think it all depends on the driver.
what a lazy-*** way to avoid the question. I hate this "depends on the driver" BS. OF COURSE it depends on the driver.. why must you reiterate this in every single thread.

This guy is asking for ballpark estimates of models the RX7 can beat (typically). jesus...

And yes, I'm angry today.
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Originally posted by muzik3k
It also depends wether you are Highway racing or from a dead stop.

ive killed american muscle cars on the highway because they are mainly torque and they loose a lot of power at higher RPMS
LOOSE = opposite of TIGHT. TWO O's
LOSE = opposite of WIN, ONE O

THANK YOU.
Old 05-02-02, 09:56 AM
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Originally posted by warsaw


LOOSE = opposite of TIGHT. TWO O's
LOSE = opposite of WIN, ONE O

THANK YOU.
Waaahhh! Is it that time of the month again? Does your little ***** hurt?

Just j/k, dude. Yeah, I get annoyed with the lack of grammar skills too.
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Originally posted by redrotorR1
WS6 with cams, bored out, upgraded fuel control, and full exhaust ... low 12's, high 11's car (on slicks) and he "takes him by 50mph in a drag race and then just walks away from him." All in a stock FD with a K&N drop-in filter, and exhaust .... hah, hah, that's a good one.

Maybe you forgot to mention, "after he put 3-4 cars on me at the launch and slowed down at 50mph ... then I took him and just walked away from him".

That's almost as good as the "I pulled on a TT Supra in 5th gear" .....
Like I said, bulshit, or his friend can't drive at all!!!

but hey! according to that other twit, I'm just 'overestimating domestic cars, since they're really slow'
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Nice to read a post that isn't completly biased...

Originally posted by redrotorR1

And they'll still be over 4000 lbs. All that horsepower and ALL that WEIGHT. They're still pigs ... END of argument.

Cars that you will encounter that put a flutter in my stomach as they roll up, by, or screaming past me?

MKIV TT Supra
Camaro Z28 (LS1-powered)
Pontiac T/A WS6
C5 Vettes (especially Z06's)
911 (and all its brethren ... newer 996 models, that is)
and cars that go WHHIIIIRRR and PSSSTTT really loud right next to me. (read: single turbo)

Generally speaking, most Supra's will **** on you. LS1's will walk you ... badly. Let's just not talk about the LS6. And, 911's (with abiding drivers) will run circles around you (I'm of the opinion that most Porsche drivers are absolute wusses ... all show, no go). What's that? ... oh yeah, time to upgrade.
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What the hell is a ws6? by the way I'am not talking stock, I'am talking about an Rx7 that has downpipe and intake and custom catback with stock boost!! now i say stock boost because it can be controlled at 10 psi, i have pills in place so that i can adjust the boost with the pressure of my gas pedal the more i push it down the higher the boost will go!!!
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What the hell is the WS6??? oh yeah I'am not talking a completly stock RX7 I'am talking about an Rx7 with downpipe intake and Custom Catback with 10 psi. Now yes you can have 10 psi with mods like this done to the car because i can, I have pills in place that i can monitor the amount of boost with my gas pedal. The harder i press down on the pedal the more boost i get.
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Originally posted by RotaryRockeTT
What the hell is the WS6??? oh yeah I'am not talking a completly stock RX7 I'am talking about an Rx7 with downpipe intake and Custom Catback with 10 psi. Now yes you can have 10 psi with mods like this done to the car because i can, I have pills in place that i can monitor the amount of boost with my gas pedal. The harder i press down on the pedal the more boost i get.

WS6 is a Pontiac code they put on T/A`s (trans ams) when they upgrade specially the suspention. I dont think they use Formula anymore. By the way all FD`s have pills and if your foot ever desides you will be pushing more than 10psi without upgrading your fuel system; Yugos and Pintos WILL be running circles around you!

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Hey EVE7 what the heck are you talking about there buddy? pintos and could make circles around me? haaaaaaa listen man not all rx7 have pills to control boost man, and there are a number of people here that can tell you that, and by the way once the second turbos comes on you see up to 12 pounds of boost, and that is on the stock fuel system.
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If the stock ECU sees more than 11.2 lbs of boost, it will induce a fuel cut. For those of you that have not experienced a fuel cut, it goes something like this ... tach climbing, momentum building, the car starts to pull and then at about 6K, the car hiccups and stops pulling. Fuel cuts are BAD!!! So running more than 10 psi (which happens if you remove the pre-cat) is not good unless you have a MBC or a re-programmed (or standalone) ECU to compensate for the increased A/F ratio.

The 3 mod rule DOES apply. Intake, downpipe, and cat-back = new ECU + fuel upgrades. Unless you're just dying to do the streetport, the ECU and fuel upgrades are essential. Back on the original topic, with those mods and the suggested additional mods, you should easily be able to play with LS-1 powered cars. The LS6 will still give you trouble and modded TT Supra's will still run away in top gears.

But, RotaryRockeTT, if you are running the mods you listed, you will need to upgrade the ECU and fuel control soon. If you don't and you blow the seals, well ... I told you so.
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A ws6 is a Trans Am Ram Air.... the Ram Air is the ws6 part. It includes a hood scoop, better suspension, nicer interior, and nicer wheels. My brother has a ws6. He currently runs a 10.2 at the track. And he has some of the mods that the one guy listed earlier. He also had other mods, but too many to really go into detail. Anyway, that one guy is full of **** to say he took the ws6. I've been in one, I've driven one. With that much power....they're just scary.
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God I love these threads.
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a stock ws6 will run faster than a slightly modded rx7. period. when my seven was simply modded with intake, exhaust, and boost controller, i had a hard time keepin up with them. now a modded t/a. give it up. we do not have the luxury of torque, and we never, simply due to shear lack of cubic displacement. the new ws6 trans am's are even better performers on the imterstate on roll-on racing. they pull very hard in third, fourth, and fifth gears....walking one would need some serious power, and i mean a t-88 and internal work.

i am the only import amidst a sea of domestic terror. if any of you domestic hater-under-estimators wanna come have some fun here in the hot *** state of mississippi, come on down. there are quite a few 9,10, and 11 second street cars running around town, wanna try to blow one of my buddies away by 50mph????what a jackass thing to say....

peace...and the rx7 still gets more looks than 95% of the other vehicles on the streets here....

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Listen up buddy your domestic trans ams are slower than our rx7's period, just yesterday i destroyed a new WS6 standard from a 60mph role, **** man we are faster than a ws6.
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once again... who really gives a **** which car is faster in a straight line.... take a FD vs a WS6 to the track and than you'll know which is one is the true sports car
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speaking of all this what should a stock 7 run in the 1/8
mine runs a 9.3 ive seen outher stock run 9.5 and i ran a stock rx7 and killed him off the line but once we hit high second gear and 3rd gear he started catching up and this has happened 2 diferent times with 2 diferent cars and i really dont get y becouse i got a mid pipe
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Originally posted by RotaryRockeTT
Listen up buddy your domestic trans ams are slower than our rx7's period, just yesterday i destroyed a new WS6 standard from a 60mph role, **** man we are faster than a ws6.
i am faster than most ws-6's around here. what i am saying is that some of you guys (no one in general) are blind to the fact that the CARB ratings and standards on the cars in california are different than here in mississippi, and iam pretty sure that is true.. there is no kind of smog rule/testing here, and therefore there are certain things the cars have here than out there. my car would get a huge **** YOU BUDDY, if i tried to go through emmisions anywhere, having no air pump or cats anywhere at all. just do not say that you '''''''DESTROYED'''''' a ws-6, it is not possible in stock form. PERIOD. i, like i have said numerous times before, am an rx7 fanatic, nonetheless, still admire and respect any capable car on the street. trust me, i got my *** handed to me a few times in my 300zx, and it was not pretty. i do not know what kind of driver was in the ws6 or whether or not is was even a ws6 at all. i trust your judgement, but am doubtful that the car gave it all it had in a race. dead stop or roll on. there are 5 ws6 t/a's that i hang out with, and one of them has an MTI heads and cams package and other goodies, and it only cost him 5000K. he now runs 11.5's on drag/street radials. can an rx7 do that? not consistently, or, without the threat of detonation.

I am not discrediting what you are saying in the above post, i just do not see this happening. however, i know that for a fact an rx7 will ''destroy'' almost every other domestic car on the interstate. PERIOD. mustangs can not hold a candl eto a modded fd, especially on the interstate. they do not have the gearing to keep up at higher rpm's. In conclusion, the C5 vettes are not even a problem compared to the ws-6 cars. they just do so well on the interstate.

To merit your post however, and to be as diplomatic as possible, i will say that a quality modded FD will beat most every car on the interstate.......

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Originally posted by phatmonky


Like I said, bulshit, or his friend can't drive at all!!!

but hey! according to that other twit, I'm just 'overestimating domestic cars, since they're really slow'
so please explain to me how your coveted 00 z06 only beat my RX-7 with an HKS downpipe by only half a car? Granted he didn't know how to drive for ****...but you'd expect a car with nearly 400 horsepower to beat me by atleast 3 or 4 cars...so yeah, domestic cars are overrated...you don't like my opinion that's fine but you don't have to flame me for it by calling me a twit. And if you think I'm lying that's fine also...but you don't have to become some cut throat bastard when someone gives their opinion. I just call them as I see them, and frankly I wasn't really impressed.
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very interesting, interesting indeed...
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