Weighing engine rebuild options (buying pre-built)
10-01-11, 05:07 PM
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Weighing engine rebuild options (buying pre-built)
Since my engine died recently, I've been trying to figure out the best way to rebuild it to handle my single turbo.
I have two engines; the one in my car (coolant seal damage) and an unknown one that I bought of a friend. The problem is there are no rotary specialists in the country and I don't have time to learn and do it myself.
I was planning to buy the necessary parts and get a reputable shop here to rebuild the engine using the two engines that I have but now I am wondering if it will be better just to buy one from US instead. Only problems would be the shipping cost and import difficulty/customs.
I know a reman is around $2000 and a brand new engine from Mazda is $4500 but not sure how much it would cost for a nicely rebuild street-ported engine from a reputable shop
(obviously there'd be no core exchange).
Who would you recommend and how much should I expect to pay? Who keeps their warranty promise? Please share your experiences.
p.s. if you don't want to share your bad experiences in public to avoid arguments please send me a pm so I don't get burnt.
I have two engines; the one in my car (coolant seal damage) and an unknown one that I bought of a friend. The problem is there are no rotary specialists in the country and I don't have time to learn and do it myself.
I was planning to buy the necessary parts and get a reputable shop here to rebuild the engine using the two engines that I have but now I am wondering if it will be better just to buy one from US instead. Only problems would be the shipping cost and import difficulty/customs.
I know a reman is around $2000 and a brand new engine from Mazda is $4500 but not sure how much it would cost for a nicely rebuild street-ported engine from a reputable shop
(obviously there'd be no core exchange).Who would you recommend and how much should I expect to pay? Who keeps their warranty promise? Please share your experiences.
p.s. if you don't want to share your bad experiences in public to avoid arguments please send me a pm so I don't get burnt.
10-01-11, 05:20 PM
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Check with DJSeven on the forums. Last I checked he was the least expensive (or close to it) but highest quality seller of pre-built engines. I had a great experience him. There are certainly some other good options to check with based on budget including IRP, Coleman Precision Rotaries and Karack.
I'd suggestion seeing what others say and then interview a few of the most popular.
I'd suggestion seeing what others say and then interview a few of the most popular.
10-01-11, 05:56 PM
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I've heard good things about Rotary Rebuild store... They are one of the options I'm considering when I need my first rebuild.
http://www.rotaryrebuildstore.com/pricing.php
Full rebuild w/ street port and NO core charge is $2850 shipped in the US, so you'd just have to find out how much more for shipping to your country. I think that is a very fair price.
http://www.rotaryrebuildstore.com/pricing.php
Full rebuild w/ street port and NO core charge is $2850 shipped in the US, so you'd just have to find out how much more for shipping to your country. I think that is a very fair price.
10-01-11, 10:07 PM
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Try Chips Motorsports out.. They do some nice rebuilds. Here is a link to a customers rebuild that he did recently https://picasaweb.google.com/1133261...Put5YD8k5qdQA#
There are some people here on the forum that had there engines done buy them, i'm sure some of them might chime in regarding there experiences with them and the quality of there work.
But a the same time there are plenty of re-builders here on the forum that can help you out also .
There are some people here on the forum that had there engines done buy them, i'm sure some of them might chime in regarding there experiences with them and the quality of there work.
But a the same time there are plenty of re-builders here on the forum that can help you out also .
10-02-11, 07:43 AM
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Try Chips Motorsports out.. They do some nice rebuilds. Here is a link to a customers rebuild that he did recently https://picasaweb.google.com/1133261...Put5YD8k5qdQA#
There are some people here on the forum that had there engines done buy them, i'm sure some of them might chime in regarding there experiences with them and the quality of there work.
But a the same time there are plenty of re-builders here on the forum that can help you out also .
There are some people here on the forum that had there engines done buy them, i'm sure some of them might chime in regarding there experiences with them and the quality of there work.
But a the same time there are plenty of re-builders here on the forum that can help you out also .
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10-02-11, 08:16 PM
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I haven't been doing rebuilds for quite a while for customers due to my son being born and the amount of travel I do for my "real" job. Having said that I will be posting a rebuilt engine for sale on the forum in about a month. It is likely the last one I will build for around a year or so that I Plan to sell. It will have every internal seal, spring, and bearing replaced along with reconditioned rotor housings. Ofcourse, ALS seals as well. Price will be $3500.00 shipped in the 48 states.
It will come with a one year warranty.
With you being out of the country I would recommend you buy from someone in your country. If there was a warranty claim with some here in the US you would have $1500.00 in shipping the engine back and forth at your expense. Just doesn't make sense. I have sold a good deal of engines to Europe and other places but always explain the shipping issue if there was a warranty issue.
Do what you will but buying from someone local is a good way to cover your own *** if something is to happen.
It will come with a one year warranty.
With you being out of the country I would recommend you buy from someone in your country. If there was a warranty claim with some here in the US you would have $1500.00 in shipping the engine back and forth at your expense. Just doesn't make sense. I have sold a good deal of engines to Europe and other places but always explain the shipping issue if there was a warranty issue.
Do what you will but buying from someone local is a good way to cover your own *** if something is to happen.
10-03-11, 06:55 AM
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We have built engines for people is Europe, Asia, South America, etc. for all of these customers we purchased either a Mazda reman or a JDM core, depending on the customer's budget, then rebuild it to their desired performace level. In either of these situations the price is 2-4 times as much as having it built locally, if there is someone available to do it. However if there is not anyone, then buying a prebuilt engine from the US is an option.
10-03-11, 11:53 AM
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With you being out of the country I would recommend you buy from someone in your country. If there was a warranty claim with some here in the US you would have $1500.00 in shipping the engine back and forth at your expense. Just doesn't make sense. I have sold a good deal of engines to Europe and other places but always explain the shipping issue if there was a warranty issue.
Do what you will but buying from someone local is a good way to cover your own *** if something is to happen.
Do what you will but buying from someone local is a good way to cover your own *** if something is to happen.
10-03-11, 04:37 PM
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I am located in Istanbul. If I was still living in Australia, I would already be driving my car instead of posting this; it's a rotary heaven 
There are no rotary specialists to rebuild the engine. I can find a place to do it and supervise them or I can do it myself but I don't have the time. I work 6 days a week, I have kids, and I have other hobbies other than the RX7 so it's quite difficult to allocate time for everything let alone an engine rebuild.
There are no rotary specialists to rebuild the engine. I can find a place to do it and supervise them or I can do it myself but I don't have the time. I work 6 days a week, I have kids, and I have other hobbies other than the RX7 so it's quite difficult to allocate time for everything let alone an engine rebuild.
10-03-11, 07:31 PM
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To the OP: There a few reputable builders in this thread posting and All Rotor is one of the best vendors on the forum. They are giving you great advice. I'd speak to each of them and a couple that haven't chimed in yet and pick a winner! Good luck!
10-04-11, 03:02 AM
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I have a similar issue living out here in Hawaii. I'm still in the U.S. but average cost to ship a jdm core here is 800$ 
my core is most likely not rebuildable and I can't afford a new engine atm. I need to fix my cooling system and replace my turbos at the same time. Sadly, I am not a millionaire lol. The local Mazda dealer quoted $20k to fix everything. O_o
my core is most likely not rebuildable and I can't afford a new engine atm. I need to fix my cooling system and replace my turbos at the same time. Sadly, I am not a millionaire lol. The local Mazda dealer quoted $20k to fix everything. O_o
10-04-11, 10:19 AM
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I have a similar issue living out here in Hawaii. I'm still in the U.S. but average cost to ship a jdm core here is 800$ my core is most likely not rebuildable and I can't afford a new engine atm. I need to fix my cooling system and replace my turbos at the same time. Sadly, I am not a millionaire lol. The local Mazda dealer quoted $20k to fix everything. O_o
my core is most likely not rebuildable and I can't afford a new engine atm. I need to fix my cooling system and replace my turbos at the same time. Sadly, I am not a millionaire lol. The local Mazda dealer quoted $20k to fix everything. O_ohttp://fc3spro.com/main.html
disregard the note about 2nd gens, the engines themselves are all similar to build.
10-04-11, 02:51 PM
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ugh- when I lived in hawaii it was cheaper to get things from asia than here in texas
maybe you need to look around and talk to some locals?
Im pretty sure there are companies importing honda salvage clips
FD is probably not a good car to drive to the beach, though
I also hope it doesnt flood where you live
maybe you need to look around and talk to some locals?
Im pretty sure there are companies importing honda salvage clips
FD is probably not a good car to drive to the beach, though
I also hope it doesnt flood where you live
10-04-11, 04:25 PM
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Like the title says I am weighing all options. Of course what's important at this stage is the price, the delivery time and which parts and brands are used to build the engine.
I don't post much about my car because it's not ready yet but when the time comes anyone I have dealt with will see it'll be a tastefully presented RX7 and a good display of their products. I have been very picky with parts and vendors so far and I'll continue to do so. I believe it'll all pay off in the end.
I don't post much about my car because it's not ready yet but when the time comes anyone I have dealt with will see it'll be a tastefully presented RX7 and a good display of their products. I have been very picky with parts and vendors so far and I'll continue to do so. I believe it'll all pay off in the end.
10-05-11, 08:03 AM
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He never posted pics. While it is great every seal and spring was replaced the largest determining factor in good compression is the quality of the rotor housings used in the build. Get him to send you some pics, other wise it is a great price for an engine built by a great shop.
Also if I remember correctly he had a issue with some parts he sold to another member here on the forum. Dont know the guy personally but do your research and make the decision yourself.
Heard nothing but good things about the shop that built it, but the seller has had some issues here.
Hopefully you got my pm, I just cant meet the time dead line and hate to make a promise I cant keep. Unless you can be patient I suggest you take up some of the other offers in this thread. All good realiable shops.
Also if I remember correctly he had a issue with some parts he sold to another member here on the forum. Dont know the guy personally but do your research and make the decision yourself.
Heard nothing but good things about the shop that built it, but the seller has had some issues here.
Hopefully you got my pm, I just cant meet the time dead line and hate to make a promise I cant keep. Unless you can be patient I suggest you take up some of the other offers in this thread. All good realiable shops.
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