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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 11:47 AM
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A car is not an investment in almost all cases...including this one.
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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 12:22 PM
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No offence. My honest impression is that it would be a good time to sell your FDs before 4th gens come out if you think FDs are good investments. The price is very high because they are just rare - that's our unfortunate in US market. If Mazda sell FDs like they do in Japan, we probably see more cheap FDs on the market and see only good ones can remain with high price. My guess is that once we have other good choices (RX-8 and 4th gen), people who are willing to pay a lot of money for the 10 years old FDs are ones who really love FDs and know which FDs to spend their money for.
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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 12:53 PM
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Originally posted by RX7WEEE
I dont like what you said about the 16year olds getting there hands on one! im 16 and i worked my ******* *** off for mine! ...... i know im a good driver.
Nothing against you, but every 16-19 year old thinks they are a good driver. Even after they post the "jest rekked my FD" thread.

In order for this "scheme" to work, everyone would have to participate. The possibility of that happening is ZERO.
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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 01:12 PM
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Hey now, 19" wheels are OK. It's 20" wheels that are past the point of good taste...
Wow, I never thought I'd hear Jim say 19" rims are okay. Wow. I agree too, but just surprised.
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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 01:19 PM
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The value of practically all cars will always go down. The only ones that don't,...are "special" cars. Ones that are very very limited in production GLOBALLY (like McLarens, certain Ferraris, certain Porsches, etc.).
This is not exactly true. There are many mass produced American cars that sell for more now than when they were new. Granted they are more than 10years old, but look at the classic corvettes, camaros, mustangs, ... These are cars that were by no means rare in the 70s and 80s but have increased in value over the past 30 years. It may take some time (and a lot more stupid kids wrecking them) but it is possible that the value of a well kept FD will increase in the future.
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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 01:29 PM
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Wow, I never thought I'd hear Jim say 19" rims are okay. Wow. I agree too, but just surprised.
I'm not a track fanatic like Manny.
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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 02:09 PM
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Originally posted by adam c
Nothing against you, but every 16-19 year old thinks they are a good driver. Even after they post the "jest rekked my FD" thread.
I have been driving for over 3 years with no accidents or tickets. In those three and some change years i have put more miles on vehicles delivering pizza and driving out of town then the average person drives in 10 years. Ive driven and raced many cars, including my 403rwhp rx7. I think i can consider myself a good and safe (except when racing) driver. I know you were talking to rx7wee, but i fall in that 16-19 year old category being that im 19. So tell me how many tickets or accidents you been in or had in the last 3 years?
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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 02:35 PM
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This is not a "Prove you're a good driver" thread. He was only speaking about it, as a broad generalization.

How's this? Every 16 - 19 year thinks they are the best driver and would gladly post claims about their driving history to prove it. Much like their willingness to claim they have the most bada$$ car and will gladly race to prove it. Geez.

I'm 26. I've gotten speeding tickets. Do I care to claim that I'm a good driver? No. If anything, I know I've avoided some accidents because of some dumba$$ cutting me off, or not paying attention when merging.

In short, no one cares about claiming whether they are a good driver or not. He was talking about it, in general.

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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 02:40 PM
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Originally posted by fastcarfreak
I have been driving for over 3 years with no accidents or tickets. In those three and some change years i have put more miles on vehicles delivering pizza and driving out of town then the average person drives in 10 years. Ive driven and raced many cars, including my 403rwhp rx7. I think i can consider myself a good and safe (except when racing) driver. I know you were talking to rx7wee, but i fall in that 16-19 year old category being that im 19. So tell me how many tickets or accidents you been in or had in the last 3 years?
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You may be a good driver. My point is that everyone in your age group thinks they are a good driver. Many are not. Many will become good drivers with more experience.

I got a speeding ticket a couple of years ago (not bad driving). I have had 3 people back into my stopped or parked car in the last 3 years (again not bad driving). They were bad drivers, and all were over 30. They probably all thought they were good drivers too.

The 16 year old girl that ran a stop sign and nearly killed my wife probably thought she was a good driver.

Sorry

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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 02:55 PM
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Adam, I'm not trying to mess with you about your age, because I had the same said to me when I was 19 and on a 1100XX for my first bike. This comment sums it up though.
Originally posted by fastcarfreak
I think i can consider myself a good and safe (except when racing) driver.
What is the age group most prone to endangering themselves or others on the street because of racing?
16-19 year old males with availability to high horsepower to weight ratio vehicles. Insurance companies aren't stupid man. You know that. I'm sure you do. For the most part a high school student with 2-3 years of driving experience doesn't have a clue how to drive a real car. You can tell all of this just from someones seating posture while they are driving. What it tells me is that most of the 16-19 year olds are pimpin and playing the role of a racer. That scares me. You should know what I'm talking about. Take a 16 year old a ride in your 400+rwhp car, and watch them grab for the door handle when the rear end fishtails at 60.

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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 02:55 PM
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Hmm ... This thread has got me thinking. Why exactly does a 6 speed TT supra in good condition sell for >40k??

The values of the 300ZX and the RX-7 have dropped a lot since 10 years ago, why hasn't the supra?
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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 02:58 PM
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sorry to hear about your wifes accident, at least shes ok. At least i see why you might have a little vendetta against young drivers, and its completely understandable.
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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 03:10 PM
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Originally posted by Conv.WS6
Adam, I'm not trying to mess with you about your age, because I had the same said to me when I was 19 and on a 1100XX for my first bike. This comment sums it up though.

What is the age group most prone to endangering themselves or others on the street because of racing?
16-19 year old males with availability to high horsepower to weight ratio vehicles. Insurance companies aren't stupid man. You know that. I'm sure you do. For the most part a high school student with 2-3 years of driving experience doesn't have a clue how to drive a real car. You can tell all of this just from someones seating posture while they are driving. What it tells me is that most of the 16-19 year olds are pimpin and playing the role of a racer. That scares me. You should know what I'm talking about. Take a 16 year old a ride in your 400+rwhp car, and watch them grab for the door handle when the rear end fishtails at 60.
When i race i am very responsible about it. I dont just randomly race on the street. The races take place on a road that has no traffic. This road is also a one way street and is in an industrial area. You also might know that the others who participate in these races are in there 40s and 50s and own old muscle cars. The roads are blocked off when we race also, and its usually between 1 and 4 in the mourning on a friday and saturday night. its not like im going around and racing every kid in a honda. I dont race with any bit of traffic around. I also should point out that my father is one of the older guys that goes up there and agrees that its pretty safe to race the way we do, and better then just spinning our tires at every stop light.
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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 03:13 PM
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so many older people are such hypocrites. They complain about younger people racing and thats what they have been doing there whole life.
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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 03:15 PM
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Im never selling my FD, so I dont care what its worth.
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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 03:29 PM
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Hey adam, I'm glad to hear you are thinking about others on the roadway. Trust me I'm completely into racing, and I'm glad to hear that your dad takes the time to hang out with you. I only wish my father would have the same enthusiam that I have about racing.
My main point is that I'm only 26, and I can already see the difference a few years make. Driving fast isn't what the problem is. It's not having any sense when you are going fast. It sounds like you are adding alot of sense into the picture in your last post, but you have to admit that most teenagers don't add sense to their fast driving habits. the main difference you are talking about is 16year old street racer vs 16 year old track racer.
There is a big difference.
Your situation that you discribed fall into more of a track event instead of on public streets with innocent uninvolved cars being around.



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so many older people are such hypocrites. They complain about younger people racing and thats what they have been doing there whole life.
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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 04:04 PM
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Re: The way to increase the value of our 3rd gens!

Originally posted by fastcarfreak
Ok guys,
I have the solution for increasing the value of our 3rd gen rx7s. I know everyone wants there car to go up in value. If nobody sells there car for less then say 18 to 20 grand, eventually the market value of the car will go up. The car is getting more rare as we speek, becuase people keep wrapping them around trees. If everyone is asking this price and wont settle for less it should work. There are so many people out there that no matter what we charge for these cars, they are going to want one. By raising the price on the FD, this also helps in the aid to stop 16 year olds from getting there hands on them. I dont know about you guys but i sure *** hell wouldnt sell my car for anything less then 22-25k. with the mods i have and money i sink into this car i dont see it not being worth that much. If everyone participates, this just might work. Im sorry to everyone considering buying an FD in the future. Just think of it this way, if you buy one for our asking price. the value of the market will go up and it wont be a bad deal for you.
Everytime I read a thread like this, I can fell the IQ points slipping away.

Your car is what it is. You will get no more, or no less than what it is truly worth in a free market system.

Cartels do not work for the very reason you are trying to keep the price artifically high. GREED.

If you really wanted to ensure a high price for your 7. I suggest a couple of things. One, destroy all the other RX 7's that exist except yours. And 2, wait 30 years, and sell yours. Also true to the econ theme of, "there is no such think as a free lunch" Think about what it will cost you, (not just monetarily), to acheive such a task?

On a serious note, you may just want to get out and enjoy your car, and quit worrying about what it's worth.
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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 04:11 PM
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Originally posted by Conv.WS6
Take a 16 year old a ride in your 400+rwhp car, and watch them grab for the door handle when the rear end fishtails at 60.
OT, but I want to ride in your car and fishtail at 60mph.

I'm only 18 btw.
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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 05:05 PM
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Everytime I read a thread like this, I can fell the IQ points slipping away.
fell? lol. I guess you those IQ points are slipping faster than expected.
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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 05:30 PM
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This does not work.. lol

ever taken an economics class?
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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 05:34 PM
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If you really want your FD to hold it's value:
1. Keep up on the maintenence.
2. Keep it out of the sun.
3. Don't use it as a daily driver/commuter.
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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 06:30 PM
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im not really concerned with the value of my car. I plan to keep it forever. I love this car too damn much to get rid of it. The cars that used to appeal to me, dont have as much affect on me anymore. If ever i get bored with my cars performance, all i have to do is up the boost, or port the motor, or go with a 3 rotor, or a bigger turbo, or better suspension, better tires, blah blah blah. Man i love this car.
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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 06:33 PM
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Originally posted by adam c
If you really want your FD to hold it's value:
1. Keep up on the maintenence.
2. Keep it out of the sun.
3. Don't use it as a daily driver/commuter.
agreed, i do all 3.
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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 06:35 PM
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Damn.. this thread is turned into teenager vs. old folks..

those who want to sell there car for 10 grand go head.. if you want for investment purpose, go buy some stock or goto Vegas and take a shoot at gambling..

My friends wife's dad had a nice italian car (F355) which he drove 3000 miles in 3 years going no faster than speed limit.. And sold it for more than he paid ( I heard 25K more).. and then he bought a 360 and sold it 1 week later for 20K more.. now he has 550..

People who own 7s are in no way going to make this kind of money.. and no way i'm going to drive 3k in 3 years at max speed of 70 MPH.. Cars are meant to enjoy.. and to appreciated.. which I have a riced out slow *** car and planning to enjoy a bit in the future..
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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 07:49 PM
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Originally posted by nillviod
Hmm ... This thread has got me thinking. Why exactly does a 6 speed TT supra in good condition sell for >40k??

The values of the 300ZX and the RX-7 have dropped a lot since 10 years ago, why hasn't the supra?
No idea... But they sure are reliable!
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