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Old 01-11-07, 11:23 AM
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Want an FD trying to figure out wat to do

Ok first of all im trying to figure out if when i do get the money whether or not i wanna get someones that is already modded or do it myself, if i buy a modded one im gonna get one thats single if i do it my self from a bone stock FD heres wat ive got so far that i need...if ive left anything out or put something i dont need just let me know...

Apexi N1 Exhaust 420.00
Pettit Downpipe 295.00
High Flow Cat 325.00
Stainless Midpipe 99.00
Pettit Cold Air Intake 399.00
HKS Front Mount Intercooler 1,450.00
Apexi Power FC + Commander 949.00
Greddy Profec B Spec 2 315.00
Greddy Autotimer 89.00
Walbro Fuel Pump 110.00
Koyo Radiator 320.00
Pettit AST 149.00
Dual Oil Cooler 849.00
BNR Stage 3 Turbo Upgrade 2349.00
Greddy Type RS BOV 185.00
Rotary Engine Stage 2 Street Ported(with 3mm seals) 3249.00
1600 CC Injectors(secodaries) 124.00/ea
850 CC Injectors(Primaries) 159.00/ea

Total $12118.00
Old 01-11-07, 11:34 AM
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must be nice to have money
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Hey bro unless you really have deep pockets it takes patience and time to build up a FD. Remember its always better to do it right the first time around. You are on the right path, but your mods will depend on which FD you choose to buy. Like the oil coolers if you choose a r1 or r2 it will already come with dual oil coolers. And as far as replacing the motor, you might not have to do that. Again dependent on which FD you buy and what #s you want to achieve. I know alot of forum members making good hp #s on stock seals and ports safely. It has alot to do with good tuning and with corresponding mods to support. I would suggest you use the search function on the forum to its fullest before you buy. And if you can't find your answer, just ask. You might get flamed for some questions by some members, but overall we all are willing to help. The FD is a money pit plain and simple. It takes a certain type of person to own a FD, and it helps if you have deep pockets to cover any unexpected mechanical problems. If you are young I hope you have the support ($) of your parents. Take your time looking and researching. Not being affraid to ask is most important. I would hate to see you jump in waste deep with a lemon. It appears you already started researching so thats good. Remember what ever FD you choose PLEASE DO A COMPRESSION TEST before you buy! Good luck..!!
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I suggest you come back after you actually have an FD and have gotten used to driving it and have any maintenance issues sorted out.
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thanx all of you, and yeah i do want an r1 or r2 out of all the models so that saves for the oil coolers thanx for that 1 93fd3s...and the numbers im looking for are about 400hp on the motor not at the wheels and i want it to last thats why i put the ported motor and the 3mm seals....id be very pleased with that....so with all that i have listed do u think 400 is atainable and safe if properly maintained, and if u guys know cheaper ways then by all means tell me...
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Originally Posted by R1988T
thanx all of you, and yeah i do want an r1 or r2 out of all the models so that saves for the oil coolers thanx for that 1 93fd3s...and the numbers im looking for are about 400hp on the motor not at the wheels and i want it to last thats why i put the ported motor and the 3mm seals....id be very pleased with that....so with all that i have listed do u think 400 is atainable and safe if properly maintained, and if u guys know cheaper ways then by all means tell me..
Here is a cheaper way..Forget the FD and pick up something reliable that won't burn your pockets so much..Just kidding,I love my FD...But in all seriousness,be careful,you start spending money like that and before you know it,you are in so deep that you can't sensibly get out..And I assume you are going to do all the work yourself if you haven't factored in labor for any of your prices??
Old 01-11-07, 12:16 PM
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If you are patient, there are plenty modded comparably to what you wrote in the for sale section now and then, plus it will save you a HUGE chunk of change to buy one already modded....plus all that extra cash can be used to sort out the gremlins.
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Originally Posted by R1988T
Ok first of all im trying to figure out if when i do get the money whether or not i wanna get someones that is already modded or do it myself, if i buy a modded one im gonna get one thats single if i do it my self from a bone stock FD heres wat ive got so far that i need...if ive left anything out or put something i dont need just let me know...

Apexi N1 Exhaust 420.00
Pettit Downpipe 295.00
High Flow Cat 325.00
Stainless Midpipe 99.00
Pettit Cold Air Intake 399.00
HKS Front Mount Intercooler 1,450.00
Apexi Power FC + Commander 949.00
Greddy Profec B Spec 2 315.00
Greddy Autotimer 89.00
Walbro Fuel Pump 110.00
Koyo Radiator 320.00
Pettit AST 149.00
Dual Oil Cooler 849.00
BNR Stage 3 Turbo Upgrade 2349.00
Greddy Type RS BOV 185.00
Rotary Engine Stage 2 Street Ported(with 3mm seals) 3249.00
1600 CC Injectors(secodaries) 124.00/ea
850 CC Injectors(Primaries) 159.00/ea

Total $12118.00
Won't save much money for you, but does it make sense to get a mid-pipe and hi-flow cat?
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More things you might need.... performance tires, upgraded brakes or at least good pads and SS lines, rear bushings, motor mounts, upgraded clutch, boost and temp gauge. And no matter what car you buy you need to account for Murphy's law. So it would be smart to budget in 1-2k just to fix all the little problems that pop up after you buy.

Also remember you can buy used parts. A downpipe for example can be found for 100-150 (i got one for $30 actually)... so for things like exhaust, intercooler, etc you could save a lot going with used stuff. And I think PFC + commander sells in the $700 range new now. Doesnt it?
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Originally Posted by R1988T
if ive left anything out ... just let me know.
Apparently, you consistenly leave the letter 'h' out of the word what.

Originally Posted by rynberg
I suggest you come back after you actually have an FD and have gotten used to driving it and have any maintenance issues sorted out.
Best advice in the thread. Everyone else is just helping you kick tires you don't own yet...

Buy a car first. Worry about what to put on it later.
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Originally Posted by rynberg
I suggest you come back after you actually have an FD and have gotten used to driving it and have any maintenance issues sorted out.

The reason people say get the car and then figure what mods is that we have had a LOT people in the past jump on here with "mod lists" for a car they don't own and never get. Here's an example:

https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generation-specific-1993-2002-16/thinking-getting-rx-7-mod-list-86076/

Get the car, then people will take you seriously about how to mod the car...
Old 01-11-07, 12:42 PM
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I second that.

Scare yourself with the power it has now before you build a 400rwhp fire breathing beast- it could save your life.
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i guess you are right about getting a car first thanx for all you guys input....i guess we can let this die...but if i do get one that isnt modded i will the the way of the BNR stage 3's...and if not ill buy one thats already single...
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and btw i already have a car with some power so im used to it...1995 Firebird Formula 41Xrwhp 48Xrwtq
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Originally Posted by R1988T
and btw i already have a car with some power so im used to it...1995 Firebird Formula 41Xrwhp 48Xrwtq
I have a '95 Firebird Formula as well..Mine is basically stock,however.
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Different ends of the spectrum bro. Can't compare, you'll see what I'm talking about when you drive a maintained FD.


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and btw i already have a car with some power so im used to it...1995 Firebird Formula 41Xrwhp 48Xrwtq
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oh i know id much rather have the fd anywayz...and the only "major" power upgrade on the formula is the 150 shot....
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Originally Posted by R1988T
and btw i already have a car with some power so im used to it...1995 Firebird Formula 41Xrwhp 48Xrwtq
I tell you what, when you come out of a corner and push the fun pedal and boost comes up quicker than you thought you'll understand a bit better. I don't intend to dissuade you from building the car- I'm just saying that you should see what it can and can't do before you build a car that *will* be faster than your firebird.
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just don't forget u'll need to do reliability mods first before any of the most you listed, if the car hasn't already got them replaced. they're all listed in the FAQ. good luck w/ the find
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Originally Posted by jayk
Won't save much money for you, but does it make sense to get a mid-pipe and hi-flow cat?
It would make more sense to figure out which one might blow your motor.

I agree with Rynberg - buying this car with HP numbers in mind is putting the cart waaaayyy before the horse. Looking to do it economically is simply silly.

You want 400hp cheap? Buy a domestic. Don't want a domestic, buy a Supra or Honda.

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Originally Posted by dgeesaman
It would make more sense to figure out which one might blow your motor.

I agree with Rynberg - buying this car with HP numbers in mind is putting the cart waaaayyy before the horse. Looking to do it economically is simply silly.

You want 400hp cheap? Buy a domestic. Don't want a domestic, buy a Supra or Honda.

Dave
I agree with everyone about buying the car before planning what to do with it, but fwiw the original poster never did say anything about saving money or doing it cheaply. My comment was just a way of pointing out that in the grand scheme of things financially it didn't change much, but that it would be pointless to buy both a mid-pipe and hi-flow cat... In terms of tuning the car, yes, it would make a big difference.
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How do you know you need 400hp to enjoy this car? Have you driven a stock 3rd Gen and thought to yourself "damn this thing is slow"?


These cars are plenty of fun with 255hp and a good set of tires. I've added a downpipe, boost gauge, and performed a couple of minor cooling system upgrades because I want to enjoy driving without worrying about engine longevity.

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Trust me im a big fan of the FD and have been for about 2 years now, and just from reading on here i know wat i want, like my dream scenario is to have a car just like rich's when he had the BNR's...
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Originally Posted by R1988T
Trust me im a big fan of the FD and have been for about 2 years now, and just from reading on here i know wat i want, like my dream scenario is to have a car just like rich's when he had the BNR's...
You don't need BNR stage 3's for just 400 to the motor. I mean thats about what, 360-370whp? I'm not sure but I think with the portted motor you wan thats ALMOST possible on the stock twins. BNR stage 2's will be just fine.
Originally Posted by scotty305
How do you know you need 400hp to enjoy this car? Have you driven a stock 3rd Gen and thought to yourself "damn this thing is slow"?

These cars are plenty of fun with 255hp and a good set of tires. I've added a downpipe, boost gauge, and performed a couple of minor cooling system upgrades because I want to enjoy driving without worrying about engine longevity.
I've driven a stock FD and it was a fun car no doubt. But with the people I roll with I can't have only 255hp, I need atleast 400whp. Thats why when I'm done my project it will be tuned around 315whp and thats gonna be before it hits the road and before my BNR upgrade of course.


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