jfirko

I just recently had my rear bumper repainted, it was pealing like mad. The bumper looks good but it is a different color then the rest of my car. It is oranger. I have dealt with this body shop before and they have always done good work, however, this time I am pretty disappointed. He said that that was the color that Dupont listed as a match, but it obviously isn't right. I know the stock VR paint is some layer process with a base red and translucent pink clear coats. Has anyone else had issues or non-issues? What paint was used? Should Dupont somehow be responsible for color blindness? Any help or advice is appreciated. Thanks.

RonKMiller

VR is a three stage paint, and getting it to match the paint on your car takes more than just mixing up the formula and applying it. The paint on the rest of your car has faded also. I would take it back and have him try again. It's not easy, but any reputable place should be able to get it so close you really can't tell. It will NEVER match perfectly. Make sure they polish it in a couple of weeks after it has set up, that's the way a pro would do it.

If he can't hack it find someone who works on vintage cars on a frequent basis. They generally have the skills neccessary to do it.

How much did this guy charge you? The paint alone should run about $100.00. It's not cheap.

If you're not happy with the results be firm but pleasant and INSIST that he do it to your liking. If you don't, everytime you wash your car it will **** you off.

jfirko

Everytime I walk by my car it pisses me off. I notice it from 100 feet away. I know that fading is an issue but this just looks like a completely different color. I paid $400 to have the work done so I think I should be happy with it. If I knew it would have been this off before I had it done I would have just waited and dealt with the pealing until I wanted to have the whole car repainted.

RonKMiller

Yep, that's about right. For that much he should have done the job correctly. Like I said, be pleasant (hard for anyone to do) but 100% firm and do not take no for an answer.

I would remind the guy that you've done business with him before and have referred others to him. Good luck.

VTAOE

Don't quote me on this, but I have heard of a rather new device that some of the better car paint stores are using. It is a type of light or sensor that they can look at some of the other panels of your car that have already faded and can figure out exactly how to adjust the paint to account for fading. I actually think it is more of a paint matching setup than adjusting, but you can think of it either way I guess.

I have a few friends who play around with old Hotrods and a friend of mine told me about this. I could be totally wrong, but you may want to check with the Automotive paint store and see if they have such a system. I know that these guys at least carry it here in VA. http://www.emautopaint.com/body_index.html

- Cody

turbojeff

iTrader: (30)

What might have happened is the shop didn't know there are TWO DIFFERENT VRs in 93. The Touring is actually a differenct color red than the R1 and Base models.

Either way I'd take it back, insist that the take the BUMPER OFF the car when they repaint it.

Jeff

SPOautos

Well, I have montego blue so it might be entirely different but if you have 2 different colors in the paint so that it looks a little different from different angles this might be a problem.

When I has my bumper painted there were about 10 paint chips for that same paint. The reason is they all reflect light differently due to the angles. Its only like this if your spot painting. Anyway, what we did was lay the 10 chips on the bumper and look to see which one showed the right color at the right angles so that it would flow with the rest of the car. If you've ever seem montego you know that it changes from blue to green, well if I would have picked the wrong chip my hood and everything might look blue from a certain angle but my bumper look green.....you have to match them up so that the bumper is blue when its supposed to be and green when its supposed to be. You would do the same thing for different parts of the car, the different angles like hood versus door, ect,ect are at different angles and use different paint chips. If your painting the entire car it doesnt matter you just paint it all.

Anyway, I didnt kow if maybe that was the problem or not. Just thought I'd mention it.

Also, my montego mathced perfect and they only charged me $250 to spray the bumper, I just carried teh bumper up there and the brought it home so the $250 is just to paint it. If you paid $400 I would seriously be wanting it fixed.

Also, if the paint was mixed wrong or what ever its not your fault. They should correct the error no matter whos it is. If its Duponts fault then they should fix your car at Duponts expense.

STEPHEN

RonKMiller

Really? That's the first time I've heard that...do you have any more info? It would be really helpful, thanks.

RX7Elmo

the best way to do this is for those with VR to go check the paint code (sticker on the door). My R1 is at home though..anyone want to go check?

Danny

Foz'sRX-7

The Body Color code for my 93 Base Model is NU

I repainted 2 years ago and all went well.

j9fd3s

iTrader: (3)

i believe its vr and vx, they are the same color, but the vx (and all the tourings) were painted with a different process, the high reflex paint system.

mike

mkoch1

the light gun is usally used when you don't know the make of the paint. But that is a good idea, it should give them the foruma to match the faided paint.

most places will blend the paint to other areas of the car to help hide the fact one place has new paint and the other has old paint. if you just dropped off your bumper and said paint it this color, I say you got what you asked for.

If they had the car and painted the bumper and put it back on then, they should have noticed it doesn't match. if they are reputable they should try to make it better.

jfirko

I did drop the car off. They removed the bumper, stripped it, painted it and put it back on. I did just say that I wanted to have the bumper repainted because of the pealing. I assumed that they would match the paint, obviously a bad assumption. From experience they should have realized that some blending may be required, etc. The thing is that the paint looks so much oranger. I think if both paints faded they would fade different colors, I don't think it is just a matter of faded paint. It really seems like the Dupont formulation is off??? I think I could pick a better match off of the shelf by eye, looking at the tops of the spray paint cans.

JConn2299

Yeah, I've heard of this too. Just using the stock paint code won't do it. You have to match the rest of the paint that's on the car.

Also, some shops will buff the rest of the car to take off the oxidized paint and expose a fresh layer of old paint to better match with the new paint.

mkoch1

if it's off that much the shop should offer to fix it. I wouldn't think they would want you running around saying XXX painted this for me and it's crap. You may have to complain a little. Definitly fight them and if you have to take them to court.

Most auto body paint supply stores will have the optical paint device.