WaLieN

He's not being negative, he is trying to penetrate a the thickness of a misinformed-noggin and help you out. Unless you or your parents are well off to the point where you could afford all of the costs (you're looking at insane insurance rates if you're a 16 year old with a twin-turbo sports car) that come with this car, you're much better off without it. Let us not even delve into the whole driving experience thing, either.

Nihilanthic

Its not my first car! I previously had a 91 bonneville, a 87s maxima, and my current DD is a 94 achieva. 5 speeds, and probably not much more in the way of horsepower, but great on gas and small but still fits me and a decent amount of **** in it :P

I'm helping my stepdad turn a 3rd gen Camaro from a boat into a rocket, and its been a involved but fun process. I've also cut my teeth with handling powerful rear drive cars (flat rear tires on sleet? Check. CAMARO? Check! Stupid, probably) and restoring or modifying cars. Yes, I know about how to handle oversteer, its fun, and I can threshold brake, imagine that, I dont have ABS on it!

Current project for it? Remove the TPI manifold (the runners are so long it hits a brick wall at 4.5K rpms and stops building power - torque takes a NOSEDIVE) and replace with a carburator and a manifold that actually fows better, put on headers and a cam, and swap out the automatic (thats already on its last legs) with a built 5 speed, and change out the 2.73 rear gear for a 3.73. Yes, I'm ditching the EFI because for the price of a new EFI system like a Holley Stealth Ram or some custom piece from holley or edelbrock (With short enough runners it actually makes power above 4,500 rpms....) I could get a supercharger for it! I've already put time and effort into restoring the TPI setup so it fires right and adjusted the TPS, descreened the MAF and considered tuning it with a chip, but when I realized the gains I could have on the stock manifold were bunk and I dont wanna blow $600 on a new intake but keep the same 8bit chip that ultimately limits the power production for the fuel system (only 255 grams per time (I think per second? I forgot by now, carb swap :P) and require to go get a speed denisty and all that other ****, and a totally new fuel system would cost as much as a blower, well, **** it, I'll go old school with it. Oh, and I bypassed the coolant going to the throttle plate because I live in Raleigh, not Bangor.

All I'd do with a FD would be to get it reliable, and then put off power modding it for later when I could have the income or saved up money to not be stuck driving my DD for a few months while I saved up what I should have previously to get the engine rebuilt or replaced. I'm very familiar with computers, I dont mind driving to rotorsports for a pro tune with a PFC when I need one, and I know how to use the search button and know how far I could go with conservative mods before I'd need a chip or a PFC tuned up.

I'm not totally wet behind the ears man, and I'm not going to jump in headlong and knock my engine or toast my turbos. I'm taking my sweet damn time reading up on it and waiting for a good R model (or just a really good condition base) to come by before getting the loan and the montly payment. I work full time.

I understand about a FD as a first car being crazy, but it aint, and I already have a DD incase **** happens (which it usually does) and um... yeah, a SRT-4 IS probably a better first car choice over a FD.

I'm pretty sure people do 'know a shitload more than me', otherwise I wouldnt be here reading, would I? :P

Mura

....I wasn't talking to you.

Nihilanthic

Oh. OOPS... sorry there buddy.

Bad mood tonight! heh. Could the mods delete the post? lol.

NeedFD

woo hoo i had a 89 prelude also as my first car, then i had a 91, then a 93 .. then i finally got my dream car.

Goodfella, i had a 91 prelude, i agree it's a nice starters car



Murphy,

1) read all the 3rd gen faqs on how to purchase one, how the car's supposed to act etc.

2) if and when you get the car, i suggest doing reliability mods

3) this forum has seen many rx7s die due to reckless driving, racing it like a honda, or a normal accidents, we love these cars and we want to keep as many of them out there as possible.

Mura

I loved my Prelude, too. My 2nd car which is still sitting in my garage is a 85 or 86 Nissan Pulsar. This beast has a wopping 70hp and 98lbs of torque. That could kill a 7 in minutes. haha. Trying to get rid of it now. I could use the money.

I wished i could've kept the Prelude, but a mechanic said the tranny wouldnt last a year.

Nihilanthic

3) this forum has seen many rx7s die due to reckless driving, racing it like a honda, or a normal accidents, we love these cars and we want to keep as many of them out there as possible.


I think thats the PERFECT reason to start talking about how great SRT-4s are

dgeesaman

iTrader: (7)

Ok then, you'll positively wreck this car in a year. Now we're not being negative.

- 'Converting' a car to 99 spec costs a whole lot more than you can resell it for. You can't flip cars like condos.

- $9k will not get you a running FD. There is something fishy about that FD ad - either the buyer or seller would be making a mistake.

- You are not equipped, mentally, skillwise, or of sufficient maturity yet to drive this car. Your responses in this thread alone are sufficient evidence. Get something else and when you turn 18 or 20 or 22 and have a real, disposable income, buy the FD as a second car. Nearly any other car will be more practical.

- "i have decided what i am getting so thats what i plan on getting". If you said that within arms reach of me in person I'd slap you for being a brat. The problem is that you're not taking this stuff seriously, and you should be. The fact that you're new to the car and lack knowledge is not the problem - the problem is you don't care to learn what you need to learn.

Dave

RX 4 Speed

Amen brothers... our only hope is that this kid will listen...

murphyefini

no see im not a reckless driver its not like i dont drive its "my own first car" and im not gonna drive it alot im gonna do the necessary mods to help it breath like down pipe exhaust filters intercooler etc. i wasnt planning on driving it alot hell i could drive my moms car alot and have the rx-7 maintained well

rx76k

everybody has to start somewhere.

before you buy the car, make sure it's not salvaged, no accidents, check carfax.com (yeah yeah do it anyway, buy the unlimited, run the vin number and get a refund), read ALL the faqs on buying a new rx7 and make sure you have lots of $$$ saved up for maintenance and repairs. there is a grocery list of reliability mods to do and the rx7 is maintenance intensive. good rx7 repair shops are hard to find in the middle of nowhere, so unless you have the tools, time and know-how to fix it, that might be a problem.

murphyefini

where im moving (fredericksburg already says it tho) right by moms office (its an old distillary and there converting the warehouses to office buildings and shops) there are at least 5 if not more shops right there

adam c

iTrader: (2)

Should have taken your own advice Rich . Smartest post on the thread

murphyefini

wait.... middle of nowhere? seriously where i live is not the middle of nowhere but w/e thanks for an actual positive feedback

Monkman33

iTrader: (28)

Ok. here are a couple of excerpts pulled from this thread: https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generation-specific-1993-2002-16/resale-value-432163/


https://www.rx7club.com/showpost.php...4&postcount=49

https://www.rx7club.com/showpost.php...6&postcount=59

I honestly advise reading alot of the advice in this thread. However, skip over the kid being annoying and egotistical. Just take the relevant information and advice.

(There are more useful posts besides mine, but I just knew where mine were)

murphyefini

yea i read those and it talks about learning on that car being your onlycar and driving it well im not gonna be driving it alot nor learning on it

Monkman33

iTrader: (28)

I honestly would never recommend a car with this much power, being this light, and this balanced for anyone without some genuine seat time.

Not being mean, you can just get yourself hurt really quickly in a sports car. cars are just plastic glass and metal. People cant be replaced. You seem calm enough, and you're not name-calling, so that is a plus for you, but I would never recommend a sports car as your first car. especially not a pure bred sports car such as this.

murphyefini

agreed thats why i didnt plan to drive it much in till i have enough "seat time" and think i am ready

flyboyjuge

36 posts in half a month for this guy and not one makes any good points or any good reasons why he should own this car. cmon man none of these guys are being negative but you trying to run before you walk so to speak. in my opinion an FD is not a beginners car. this was my dream car and i waited until i was 21, and financially stable before i got the car.

murphyefini

see i agree in the beginning i was asking where i could get one for cheap i never said i was gonna drive it or "drive it recklisly" i said i have another car to drive and i wanted this car to work on and when i see my self fit i would start using this car

skb18215

First off, you say all this, but you don't actually have the car. Driving this nice of a car is addicting. i know because i'm 17, when i first got the FC, i drove it every day. I loved it. Until i spun out across 3 lanes, and that scared me enough to drive sensibly. Even if your 25, if your first car is an FD you will drive recklessly. Its not a choice, it will be a reaction, you will drive fast. And if your a teenager that wants a car to work on, find some POS and work on it.

murphyefini

its not the same tho pos... rx-7??? hmmm there alot different tho and i have no problem making sure i dont drive it

quicksilver_rx7

Here's a little secret. Once you drive this car once it's going to be real hard to refrain from driving it a second time. Once you drive it a second time, it's going to be even harder to refrain from driving it a third time, etc....

That's like saying even though you're girlfriend is lying naked on your bed, you're not gonna take her for a ride.

No one is a perfect judge of self, but you get better with age and experience. Unfortunately, some experiences can kill you really quick and of course, death doesn't have a mulligan.

Best advice I can give is don't buy one until you're at least 30. These cars will still be around then; maybe not as many as there are now, but they will be. You'll be better off financially, unless you're spoiled by your parents and better equipped to handle a car like this. Why do you think insurance is so high on a car like this....? Because of it's capabilities and your lack of experience.

SlingShotRX7

First of all you are not gonna get any FD in decent shape for 9K or less.
And if you can get one from Japan with 1500 shipping. What are you waiting for???

You say you want to convert it to a Efini. haha.. Slap on an Efini emblem
and call it a day.

Despite what anyone say, if you get one.. Congrats and good luck.
Don't wreck it.. and If you do.. There is a silver lining. Maybe it will help the FD value.
We'll all be here to say " we told you so "

angelck022

Here is the best advice I ever got before buying an fd and I am gonna pass it on to you..., "buying this car is just the beginning, make sure you have half of the amount you paid for the car in the bank. ie if you buy the car for 15K, you better have 7.5K at least for a motor and maintanence!" Luckily I listened, I bought my fd last june on the 23rd from new york, received the car on July 10th, spent $1200 getting the car to pass emissions (here in washington state), drove the car for five solid months and put nearly 5000 miles on it when pineapple told me my motor was tired and needed a rebuild. My car went into the shop on March 11th and I don't have it back yet, mainly due to modding . Point being I drove the damn thing for five months in a year and shelled out $6K for motor(large street port), parts, and labor. and another 3k on other cool crap. listen to these guys