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Old 03-20-17, 11:49 AM
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Twin power from another car rewired for Fd3s?

I found a deal on a twin power for a Mitsubishi Evo. If I rewired it , will it work fine with my rx7 fd ? Thanks !
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There was a similar thread on this just recently. I have a feeling there is something different in the boxes themselves, the RX-7 twinpowers have a sticker that says "type rotary" on them.

The other thread didn't find an answer, contacting HKS would probably be your best bet.

Rotary ignition is so different with the leading/trailing ignition and if your timing is off or weird you can end up with a non-running car or worst case a blown motor.

It would be good to have a hard answer, but I really wouldn't risk an engine potentially on saving a few bucks. The twin powers aren't that pricey.

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actually, they are discontinued and rather hard to find for rotaries is the issue.

sure you can find them on everyone's websites still for some reason, followed by the inability to order them.

i just had this discussion with a customer, who was trying to get the wiring diagram specifics for another car to see if he could get it to work after being unable to actually find one for sale with the "rotary type" ignition function.

the universal type will work, however you must wire it manually.

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Why not go with the SakeBomb IGN-1A coil setup? Sure they cost a little more but you are getting 4 brand new coils, a brand new coil harness, mount, and spark plug wires. A twin power reuses all the stock stuff so you could be using 25 year old + coils and harness. We sell a ton of the SakeBomb setups.

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Originally Posted by IRPerformance
It is possible to get the universal to work but takes some wiring. Why not go with the SakeBomb IGN-1A coil setup? Sure they cost a little more but you are getting 4 brand new coils, a brand new coil harness, mount, and spark plug wires. A twin power reuses all the stock stuff so you could be using 25 year old + coils and harness. We sell a ton of the SakeBomb setups.
just was honestly trying to avoid spending that much , that's why I was looking for a used twin power. Maybe I'll see if I can find a used IGN-1A set. So ign-1a seems like it would be far powerful then using a twin power.
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Originally Posted by IRPerformance
Why not go with the SakeBomb IGN-1A coil setup? Sure they cost a little more but you are getting 4 brand new coils, a brand new coil harness, mount, and spark plug wires. A twin power reuses all the stock stuff so you could be using 25 year old + coils and harness. We sell a ton of the SakeBomb setups.
Agreed. I went with the Sakebomb setup through IRP and am very pleased with its performance.
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Agreed. I went with the Sakebomb setup through IRP and am very pleased with its performance.
That's what I ended up going with,well not sakebombs kit but I pieced the kit together myself to save half the price.
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That's what I ended up going with,well not sakebombs kit but I pieced the kit together myself to save half the price.
The kit comes with a custom-made harness that definitely makes for a much easier installation. How did you piece together the harness?
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Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
The kit comes with a custom-made harness that definitely makes for a much easier installation. How did you piece together the harness?
I just did a bunch of reading, and looking at wiring diagrams.I'm almost done with the harness, I just need to wire 4 new ignition signals wires to the Ecu ign outputs and I'll be set!

i also made my own mount/coil bracket.



I bought the coils from Pantera Efi and he included the connectors as well. He has good prices!

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If your interested I can give you a parts list. About $20 in materials to make the whole harness. For the same kit sakebomb offers, I made my own which is the exact as there's ..but I have $350 into it all said and done.
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Originally Posted by Rx7Jordan
If your interested I can give you a parts list. About $20 in materials to make the whole harness. For the same kit sakebomb offers, I made my own which is the exact as there's ..but I have $350 into it all said and done.
oh you mean you can put together your own ignition kit in 30 minutes for half the cost? who'da thunk it! FD owners are saps, i shoulda been into this market instead of the cheapass FC owners.

i even love how in the other thread someone told you to quit being cheap... like it's a lot of effort to build a simple wiring harness.

i'd be content with $100-150 profit, making roughly $400 is gouging. but if people are paying it then whatever. i put more effort into my FC window relay kits than this ignition kit, and for less than 1/6th profit.

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oh you mean you can put together your own ignition kit in 30 minutes for half the cost? who'da thunk it! FD owners are saps, i shoulda been into this market instead of the cheapass FC owners.

i even love how in the other thread someone told you to quit being cheap... like it's a lot of effort to build a simple wiring harness.

i'd be content with $100-150 profit, making roughly $400 is gouging. but if people are paying it then whatever. i put more effort into my FC window relay kits than this ignition kit, and for less than 1/6th profit.
I'm not calling anyone out but yup exactly , I noticed fd owner pay out the *** for these simple parts. You can save so much money with diy's and hunting for deals through facebook groups or forums. I wish it took 30min to make the harness haha, it does take a few hours but it's well worth it to save a ton of money.I did weld up the bracket/mount and then powder coated it. I have all these tools including mill,lathe ,etc. I'm 18 so I'm not balling with cash so my car is basically forum built

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I'll say this about the margins: Not everyone is so mechanically inclined or talented. Time is money. And, peace of mind from a well engineered solution by a reputable vendor carries it's own value. YMMV.
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Originally Posted by Narfle
I'll say this about the margins: Not everyone is so mechanically inclined or talented. Time is money. And, peace of mind from a well engineered solution by a reputable vendor carries it's own value. YMMV.
i understand that, however getting to the coils in the first place requires nearly as much effort and skill as it does to build your own ignition system. i think some people just get a little too paranoid with some things and want shops to simply do it for them. but for the cost, i do not take back the sap comment, and i seriously rolled my eyes when i saw the "cheap" comment in the first thread. $700+ shipping for a basic ignition system is a bit out there IMO but apparently there is a market for it...

the IGN-1A also still isn't as powerful as an amplified system.

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Originally Posted by RotaryEvolution
i understand that, however getting to the coils in the first place requires nearly as much effort and skill as it does to build your own ignition system. i think some people just get a little too paranoid with some things and want shops to simply do it for them. but for the cost, i do not take back the sap comment, and i seriously rolled my eyes when i saw the "cheap" comment in the first thread. $700+ shipping for a basic ignition system is a bit out there IMO but apparently there is a market for it... by the time you add an amplifier you're well over a grand into make little sparky things for your engine.
Yup true true. The harness takes some time at first but it's simple. Haha yeah that comment made me laugh, it's not that I'm cheap, I'm just smart with my money. With these coils they do not require a amp, they have a igniter built in each one which is pretty sweet! Just hook up to the stock wiring and add the 4th wire to diagnostic port..or can run all new wiring off the Ecu ign outputs. I'm hoping I'll be finished with mine soon. There has been a lot of rain here in Washington so I put it on hold. I think the ign-1a setup is still more powerful then a stock setup with a twin power 🤔
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FD owners are saps, i shoulda been into this market instead of the cheapass FC owners.

i'd be content with $100-150 profit, making roughly $400 is gouging. but if people are paying it then whatever.
Do it, then. But, catching flies....honey...vinegar...something something dark side.
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Do it, then. But, catching flies....honey...vinegar...something something dark side.
if i owned an FD i probably would have had a lot out there on the development side for you guys, unfortunately i don't. opportunities merely never arose.




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