Sounds like an alarm issue. Or the "extra" wire you have

 

A friend of mine is going to take the starter in tomorrow and get it tested. That should rule out that crap... and that extra wire is in the manual, but it really doesn't tell me where it goes...

Hrmm, how to disable this alarm? This is gonna be a good one...

 

hey guys, i'm dhahlen's friend in Phoenix with his car. I'm about to go pull the starter and go have it checked. Here is a pic of that wire...

 

That wire is coming from the main fuse box which is connected to the positive lead, which connects to the battery. The service manual shows it going down somewhere below the battery?

 

Also, starter is on its way to getting checked right now.. so I'll have word in a bit.

-Darren-

ANy clue on that wire?

 

STARTER IS GOOD WOOHOO! 150AMPS TOO, hrmm stock is only 100AMPS.

Fuses are good too....

Now... how do I disable this alarm???? Any ideas?

 

here are some more pics of that wire and where it comes from...




the wire goes into the bottom of that fuse box thing

 

and another note to keep in mind, I had thought the starter was wired backwards, so I switch it around, and then we connected the positive terminal back on the battery... which then emitted a spark (or arc), and then I didn't get a click when I turned the key. So, I wired it back the way it was before, and now I get no click, no power to anything... but the starter is good... and the fuses LOOK good.

Perhaps a fuse blew, but the line didn't pop? (This was the case with a stereo fuse of mine back in the day)

OR

The current from the battery fried the wire making it unusable, and now the wire is shot.

Which would be the best idea? using a continuity check on a multimeter to see if power is getting from the battery past the fuse box? or from the starter to the terminal?

Any Suggestions on this?

 

If THAT wire fried, believe me, you'd notice it!

Ok, I'm confused. This backwards wiring thing... this happened before or after you checked your fuses and tested the starter? Because you might have to check the fuses again now...

Second, there are 3 electrical connections to the starter. One is the ground, connection through the block (and maybe a ground strap (I haven't looked in a month or so)). The second is a battery connection, the third is a low current start switch connection.

If you switch the battery connection with the start switch connection, you'll have the starter "engaged" (like when the key is turned) and 150A going through the start switch... which is not likely to happen since the main/b2 fuses will probably blow.

 

we checked the fuses before and after the backwards wiring thing, the starter was taken out and tested at Autozone AFTER we did it though, all tested well.

I pulled all the fuses under the hood (that i could find) and all looked ok, i then went under the dash and randomly pulled a few out and those looked okay...i guess i'll go check them all in the morning.

 

^bump

 

I realize you want to get this problem dealt with, but do you really need four different threads on the same subject?

Your battery is probably toast at this time. Get a fresh battery and see if it'll help.

 

Well I tested the battery and it's good.

Starter is good, Battery is good.

Well, so I connected jumper cables to the negative side and added grounds to the chasis and engine, and now I got power back to what i had before. Headlights, Mirrors, Windows, My dash lights dont work... I think it's that cable posted in the pictures above... that's dash power probably right?

Anyway... so my friend goes to start the car... and he;s like "Nothing... won't start..."

a few moments later he is like, "I KNOW WHY IT WONT START!!!"

and he then said, "The starter is in the back of my truck... I haven't put it in yet...."

LOL!!!

Well the grounding issue has been solved, looks like I need to run a new ground, he's putting in the starter now, then he'll give it another shot, lets hope it works.

 

Dhahlen,

Any word on the fix for this? My FD is having somethign similar...I pulled the intake out, and then the UIM off to get to the IAT, and now I can't get it to start. It'll crank over, but very few things actually have power.

I don't hear my fuel pump when i turn the key on, my headlights will go up and down and have power, but no parking/turn lights, no tails, no brake lights, no radio, no power mirrors, no interior lights, and my power FC doesn't turn on (nothin on the commander anyway).

I checked all the fuses in the block in the driver's footwell (yes, all of them) and they all check out good. I checked the fuses under the hood that I could find and all looked good. I don't have an aftermarket alarm, and the car was running perfectly before I started taking it apart :/

Any ideas? It seems like it'd be a fuse to me, or maybe a relay. One thing to note is that while preparing to take the UIM off, I was unscrewing something on the UIM and my ratchet hit something (alternator, I think) and arc'ed, at which point I took the battery out. Maybe this has something to do with it?

Patrick

 

errr.. it was his ground wire from his battery that was toast..it looks fine but toast. starter? bs! someone mentioned this too ..if he would of just listen , he wouldnt ahve to make other threads with same problem. Sanjorx7, check the ground wire

 

Hah! Yes I did make quite a few threads, my apologies. That was quite some time ago, it was the power in to the main fuse box. ;p Re-did my ground wires too, so I have a better ground.

 

Start checking around the main fuse block -- the one that's ON the battery +ve cable.

Did you physically remove each of these (esp. the main fuse) and check for continuity, or did you just look at them? These larger fuses can blow, but you can't always visually tell if they're gone through that clear plastic.

If several devices went non-functional at the same time, it's probably a large fuse, like the main 120A. Typically, this is the case, rather than blowing several small fuses.

The headlights and retractors have their own dedicated fuses on this block and the starter's power line is not fused at all.

 

Well, found the main fuse, and it appears to be bad. I'll head to the dealershit tomorrow, since the parts dept isn't open today and none of the auto parts stores in the area have 120A fuses (100A max :/ ). I'll grab some trim clips while I'm at the dealer anyway, so this will work out good.

 

to check if its jsut the starter, just push start her.
you coudl also tow her up to a hill and roll her down in 1st gear with clutch in, adn then just pop clutch wiht the ignition at hte on position. if it doesnt start then, its more then jsut the starter.

as far as grounding, did you add more 2/0 gauge wire from your battery to the chassie yet?

 

Turns out it was my main fuse. The 120A fuse is a dealer only part, and it lists for $10.50. I picked one up yesterday and installed it this morning. Everything powered right up and the car started just as usual (despite being down for nearly 4 weeks). Took it out and drove it some and everything appears to be in order...no obvious trouble, normal boost pattern, high of 84.4% injector duty...so, I'm back!