Traction or lack there off
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Originally Posted by matty View Post
how loud and annoying is rcompound on the street?
Most streetable R comps are super loud on the street since the tread pattern they have is just to redistribute tire heat or evacuate water, but never for comfort (road noise).
I am on 295 R888 right now for my RX-8 and people always double take because it sounds like a truck on mudders coming down the road.
However, the Maxxis RC-1 is amazingly quiet and street-able despite having the tread profile of a slick.
As far as road noise, I would rate the R comps I have driven like this-
Quiet
Maxxis RC-1 (1 set used)
Toyo RA1 (3 sets used)
Kumho V710 (terrible on street for other reasons!) (1 set used)
Nitto NT01 (4 sets used)
Hankook TD Z221 (2 sets used)
Toyo R888 (1 set used)
Loud
As far as overall street-ability including rain I would rate them-
Street-able
Toyo RA1 (drives exactly like modern UHP tire)
Nitto NT01 (legal tread only lasts ~5,000 miles)
Toyo R888 (loud)
Hankook TD Z221 (need heat & loud)
Maxxis RC-1 (awesome, but no tread)
Kumho V710 (need lots of heat & no tread)
Less street-able
All the R compounds will try to kill you when the pavement is cold (under 40F).
If it wasn't immediately apparent to you that old tires suck for traction, I would caution against street-ing on R compounds as you have to always have in mind variable road conditions such as surface temp or you will die.
Originally Posted by matty View Post
how loud and annoying is rcompound on the street?
Most streetable R comps are super loud on the street since the tread pattern they have is just to redistribute tire heat or evacuate water, but never for comfort (road noise).
I am on 295 R888 right now for my RX-8 and people always double take because it sounds like a truck on mudders coming down the road.
However, the Maxxis RC-1 is amazingly quiet and street-able despite having the tread profile of a slick.
As far as road noise, I would rate the R comps I have driven like this-
Quiet
Maxxis RC-1 (1 set used)
Toyo RA1 (3 sets used)
Kumho V710 (terrible on street for other reasons!) (1 set used)
Nitto NT01 (4 sets used)
Hankook TD Z221 (2 sets used)
Toyo R888 (1 set used)
Loud
As far as overall street-ability including rain I would rate them-
Street-able
Toyo RA1 (drives exactly like modern UHP tire)
Nitto NT01 (legal tread only lasts ~5,000 miles)
Toyo R888 (loud)
Hankook TD Z221 (need heat & loud)
Maxxis RC-1 (awesome, but no tread)
Kumho V710 (need lots of heat & no tread)
Less street-able
All the R compounds will try to kill you when the pavement is cold (under 40F).
If it wasn't immediately apparent to you that old tires suck for traction, I would caution against street-ing on R compounds as you have to always have in mind variable road conditions such as surface temp or you will die.
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lmao those kumho 710's are crappy on the track too.
i don't have any street experience with any of these tires, but i can say that on the race track the type and condition of tires is super important.
actually i measured the contact patch of my 225/45/15's and its only about a 6"x3" rectangle, its surprisingly small
i don't have any street experience with any of these tires, but i can say that on the race track the type and condition of tires is super important.
actually i measured the contact patch of my 225/45/15's and its only about a 6"x3" rectangle, its surprisingly small
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j9fd3s lmao those kumho 710's are crappy on the track too.
They were definitely the fastest tires I have personally used at auto-x, but also the worst as far as heat cycles and cold traction.
Since then I have been too lazy to take the race tires off my car (helping club set-up/break down really instead of changing tires really) so I have gone toward the more streetable R compounds.
They were definitely the fastest tires I have personally used at auto-x, but also the worst as far as heat cycles and cold traction.
Since then I have been too lazy to take the race tires off my car (helping club set-up/break down really instead of changing tires really) so I have gone toward the more streetable R compounds.
[QUOTE=GoodfellaFD3S;11971792]RE71R's are the bomb diggedy dogg... they're light as all hell too, definitely above the ZII in my book, and I've run them both 
I run R888. Love them but the are quite heavy. Turns my 18lb wheel into a 40lb combo
I run R888. Love them but the are quite heavy. Turns my 18lb wheel into a 40lb combo
I used to run nitto 555 drs in the rears for daily driving, was fine except for driving at highway speeds in the rain, little unreliable there. With 245s the car handled like it was on rails and I couldn't break them loose with almost 400rwhp. Never broke the rear end or trans or had any issues. Great tire and fun to light up at the track where the car would get stuck to the ground and make you stall
Traction or lack there off
Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
Fritzy, they're not loud at all actually. Louder than cushy sissy tires, but quieter than the ZIIs mos def.
Regarding 10 year old tires: most tire shops refuse to put air in tires with a manufacture date greater than 9 or 10 years.
A few years back I purchased a mint GSL-SE with the original tires. Only 23k miles, great tread, but nearly 20 years old. They slid like mad and the car rode like a truck! Rubber ages. Goes bad.
In terms of temp, 40* is when summer tires start to turn to rocks and lose any grip. When I had my new RX-8 (2004), I'd pull out of my sub in the morning and do a four wheel slide from first gear.... total rocks until the tires warmed up!
A few years back I purchased a mint GSL-SE with the original tires. Only 23k miles, great tread, but nearly 20 years old. They slid like mad and the car rode like a truck! Rubber ages. Goes bad.
In terms of temp, 40* is when summer tires start to turn to rocks and lose any grip. When I had my new RX-8 (2004), I'd pull out of my sub in the morning and do a four wheel slide from first gear.... total rocks until the tires warmed up!
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Any wide tire with that footprint is going to be loud
I totally would have thought so until I tried the Maxxis RC-1 slicks.
I think carcass construction must have something to do with how much tires "sing" as well as the tread (or lack of) surface.
All my other tires (RA1, NT01, TD, V710) slicked out were LOUD.
I totally would have thought so until I tried the Maxxis RC-1 slicks.
I think carcass construction must have something to do with how much tires "sing" as well as the tread (or lack of) surface.
All my other tires (RA1, NT01, TD, V710) slicked out were LOUD.
Most tires get louder as they wear. The frequency will change and also depending on the surface.
Tires like these usually don't wear evenly and that is also a large contributer to the noise.
I personally like Bridgestone tires and have owned most of the high performance rubber on various cars. I would def consider an RE-11 or the new RE-71 for my next set.
I've also run the Dunlop Star Spec version 1 and those were loud and def noisy in comparison to the Bridgestones to me.
Tires like these usually don't wear evenly and that is also a large contributer to the noise.
I personally like Bridgestone tires and have owned most of the high performance rubber on various cars. I would def consider an RE-11 or the new RE-71 for my next set.
I've also run the Dunlop Star Spec version 1 and those were loud and def noisy in comparison to the Bridgestones to me.
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These RE-71Rs are the real deal IMO, i'm enjoying them immensely and don't regret it at all

shopping for tires now. I think that's likely the answer.
I am looking at the Bridgestone potenzas re-11 or re-71R. The 71R look like a copy of the Direzza ZII Star Spec which i am also interested in.
The Bridgestones seem to drive quiet and more comfortable than the Direzza. The reviews for both are outstanding.
Why is Bridgestone offering two RE models now? Tire rack doesnt have a review of the re-71r
I am looking at the Bridgestone potenzas re-11 or re-71R. The 71R look like a copy of the Direzza ZII Star Spec which i am also interested in.
The Bridgestones seem to drive quiet and more comfortable than the Direzza. The reviews for both are outstanding.
Why is Bridgestone offering two RE models now? Tire rack doesnt have a review of the re-71r
thats the summer tire to get if you do any spirited / motorsports driving
Unless you are running wide drag radials and low boost, no modded FD gets first gear traction.
Had that problem with 350whp from 1999 through 2005. Even with 275 rear sticky street tires. 2nd gear was good.
At about 420 whp, my Advan AD08 255/40-17 also brake loose in 2nd when boost comes on fully at 18psi with stock ports and the 3.909 rear diff.
You have to partially back throttle until in a higher gear and speed.
High power is a mother to control but sooooo much fun!!!!
Had that problem with 350whp from 1999 through 2005. Even with 275 rear sticky street tires. 2nd gear was good.
At about 420 whp, my Advan AD08 255/40-17 also brake loose in 2nd when boost comes on fully at 18psi with stock ports and the 3.909 rear diff.
You have to partially back throttle until in a higher gear and speed.
High power is a mother to control but sooooo much fun!!!!
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