Totalled my FD :( pics of wreck and my new ride :)
Originally posted by 1 BAD 7
Seems like everyone's kind of over-reacting, don't ya think? Whether he was an idiot and was going to fast - read: faster than 15 as he claims - or not he could have possibly been seriously injured in that wreck, yet he walked away with nothing worse than a totalled *CAR*.
Other than the ongoing soap-opera that is my car, I love it, but to be honest if I were in an accident in which it was totalled I'd be more relieved that I got out of it with my life than lamenting the loss of my car. There are some things more important in life than an RX-7, you know...yes, even a rare FD
It kind of makes me sick to see people get so worked up over a material object. With that, I'm getting off my soapbox before it catches fire.....
Seems like everyone's kind of over-reacting, don't ya think? Whether he was an idiot and was going to fast - read: faster than 15 as he claims - or not he could have possibly been seriously injured in that wreck, yet he walked away with nothing worse than a totalled *CAR*.
Other than the ongoing soap-opera that is my car, I love it, but to be honest if I were in an accident in which it was totalled I'd be more relieved that I got out of it with my life than lamenting the loss of my car. There are some things more important in life than an RX-7, you know...yes, even a rare FD

It kind of makes me sick to see people get so worked up over a material object. With that, I'm getting off my soapbox before it catches fire.....
Originally posted by neo_omega
It's not how he totalled the FD. It's how he said he's so glad that it's total.
It's not how he totalled the FD. It's how he said he's so glad that it's total.
Actually, upon re-reading what he said, it was more "I'm glad they [ie. insurance company] totalled it because I'd hate to have a car back that rides bad because of the accident."
I don't see where that makes him seem happy he totalled the car in the first place, just glad the insurance didn't force him to fix it and then have him stuck with a car that may never be the same - and since he was in the process of selling it, that's understandable. A bit harder to sell a car when it's not riding as it should, OR when someone checks things out and sees it was in a major accident.
My parents' were in a head-on a few years back; the car was crumpled almost to the windshield yet initially the ins. company wanted to fix it rather than total it. There's no way that car would have ever driven the same as it had before the accident, so they were "happy" it was totalled in the end.
Just my .02 - I can't believe I just made myself late to work to read and respond to this thread....
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Originally posted by agent712
I was also in the process of selling it, too. Got rid of it sooner than I expected
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Nick
I was also in the process of selling it, too. Got rid of it sooner than I expected
.Nick
sorry you're late for work, man. I just surf the forum at work
.The quote above, and a quote from his next post where he gleefully proclaimed that he was driving on bald tires is what pissed me off. The little **** doesn't deserve a Bimmer---he should be riding a damn 10 speed.
Originally posted by GoodfellaFD3S
Agent712, it's the way you typed all this stuff up----you come off as:
"Well, I was going to sell it, but I wrecked it, so it's all the same to me. I didn't care that my tires were bald and figured I could just drive on bad roads, no big deal. I mean, there are maybe 12,000 FDs left in the country, who cares if I wreck one? There's a bunch left. I love my shiny new Bimmer anyway. Peace out, guys."
And I'm not supposed to get pissed?
Agent712, it's the way you typed all this stuff up----you come off as:
"Well, I was going to sell it, but I wrecked it, so it's all the same to me. I didn't care that my tires were bald and figured I could just drive on bad roads, no big deal. I mean, there are maybe 12,000 FDs left in the country, who cares if I wreck one? There's a bunch left. I love my shiny new Bimmer anyway. Peace out, guys."
And I'm not supposed to get pissed?
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Originally posted by Shinobi-X
Upon reading what actually happened, it's especially upsetting to me, as I basically took a fair condition FD (about to be parted, and done with), and saved it by putting in the time and effort necessary to keep just one more on the road... These cars really are too cheap now, as they are falling into the wrong hands all over the place.
Upon reading what actually happened, it's especially upsetting to me, as I basically took a fair condition FD (about to be parted, and done with), and saved it by putting in the time and effort necessary to keep just one more on the road... These cars really are too cheap now, as they are falling into the wrong hands all over the place.
Damn... WOW!!!.. I don't know what to say..
I have to say, he's young.. not that I'm old.. but one one out there who really loves FD, just got a chance to own one for pretty cheap.. and able to fix it.. So, I wouldn't worry about it... unless its already parted out and parts are sold.. Still its being recycled back to other FD owners..
And thank god he got a bimmer..
I have to say, he's young.. not that I'm old.. but one one out there who really loves FD, just got a chance to own one for pretty cheap.. and able to fix it.. So, I wouldn't worry about it... unless its already parted out and parts are sold.. Still its being recycled back to other FD owners..
And thank god he got a bimmer..
We were all young once(and some still are). Look back and think of all the stupid, immature things we did(I can remember all the stupid things that I have done) - especially when driving.
Give the kid a break.
Give the kid a break.
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Originally posted by Mr. Stock
We were all young once(and some still are). Look back and think of all the stupid, immature things we did(I can remember all the stupid things that I have done) - especially when driving.
Give the kid a break.
We were all young once(and some still are). Look back and think of all the stupid, immature things we did(I can remember all the stupid things that I have done) - especially when driving.
Give the kid a break.
Last edited by GoodfellaFD3S; Jul 1, 2003 at 03:30 PM.
Originally posted by GoodfellaFD3S
Well then, allow me say this.
It f*cking pisses me off that you wreck a gorgeous and rare 3rd Generation RX-7 through your own carelessness and negligence.
It really f*cking pisses me off when you go on to say things like "I was selling it anyway--I got rid of it sooner than I expected."
Your cavalier and flippant attitude about the whole incident makes me sick to my stomach. After checking your profile, I'm not surprised to see that you were born in 1984.
Well then, allow me say this.
It f*cking pisses me off that you wreck a gorgeous and rare 3rd Generation RX-7 through your own carelessness and negligence.
It really f*cking pisses me off when you go on to say things like "I was selling it anyway--I got rid of it sooner than I expected."
Your cavalier and flippant attitude about the whole incident makes me sick to my stomach. After checking your profile, I'm not surprised to see that you were born in 1984.
And as for why he was driving it in those type of conditions? Well it was his only car... and if you only had one car do you think YOU could decide what weather you can or can't drive in? I think not. So get off your high horse of blaming my brother for this. People like you make me happy to see a nice car go down like this and hurt their feelings. You think I wasn't a little bummed to see that car end the way it did? Of course I was. But sheesh, get over it. It's a CAR. It can be what you call REPLACED.
Later
Chuck
BTW. My brother said I "had" an SS... that should have said "has"... And he is right. We're not idiots around here... I am personally building (full professional blueprint job) an LT1 for my car that will not go in the car unless it is making at least 625-650 fwhp n/a. And for any of you who are familiar with building 23 degree headed sbc's, you will know that's pretty good... Especially considering it's a rather conservative 383 ci. So I don't wanna see anybody calling my brother an idiot again. He's young and still has some things to learn, but I can tell you what, he's a lot further along than most of your guys were at his age.
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Originally posted by GoodfellaFD3S
Long time no see, Ed. I'll shoot you a PM. I agree with what you're saying.....but a little remorse (vice glee) would've been nice for the sake of his FD
Long time no see, Ed. I'll shoot you a PM. I agree with what you're saying.....but a little remorse (vice glee) would've been nice for the sake of his FD
Oh give me a break. It was a car. If you were so concerned about these cars you would be searching the forums and buying all the FD3's from the people who in your opinion "don't deserve them". Then selling the piece of crap cars to the people who do. You sound like some RX7 ****. I mean, I can understand being a *little* bummed out over something like this... but you've never seen the car your whole life, and wouldn't have made a difference if you did... But you still post countless times in this thread about how much of an undeserving idiot my brother is... It seems to me you have self esteem issues and can only make up for that by putting others down and making yourself feel good about your life.
Later
Chuck
Originally posted by agent712
I'm Nick's brother, and you know what f*cking pisses ME off? You. My brother is a very hard worker... he works for my parents full time making more money than most people twice his age make. And he should be considered one of the most highly respected youth in our community. Doesn't drink, smoke, cuss, and definitely doesn't do drugs. So you're getting upset at him makes me get very upset with YOU for your IGNORANCE in blaming him for this accident. Givin the "[/URL]
I'm Nick's brother, and you know what f*cking pisses ME off? You. My brother is a very hard worker... he works for my parents full time making more money than most people twice his age make. And he should be considered one of the most highly respected youth in our community. Doesn't drink, smoke, cuss, and definitely doesn't do drugs. So you're getting upset at him makes me get very upset with YOU for your IGNORANCE in blaming him for this accident. Givin the "[/URL]
Originally posted by agent712
You have no idea what this road can get like at times, and you have NO IDEA how much we gripe at the county about fixing it...... My brother failed to mention that the sheriff who came out to write up the report was sliding around from side to side when he pulled up to the scene ........So get off your high horse of blaming my brother for this.
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You have no idea what this road can get like at times, and you have NO IDEA how much we gripe at the county about fixing it...... My brother failed to mention that the sheriff who came out to write up the report was sliding around from side to side when he pulled up to the scene ........So get off your high horse of blaming my brother for this.
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Seems to ME he said he was going 15mph... And since I know that is fact from all the witness's that were vouching the same thing that day on our road (ie. not being able to drive over 15mph without loosing control)... I do believe you are calling him a liar. And since you know everything, I'm sure you must be right, since you are such a smart guy and all... Especially with that very thouroughly thought out comment about "Obvoiusly the sherriff was in a hurry to get to the accident scene." Right... I suppose I could get the officer to comment on that for you since he's a friend of ours... And since he knew nobody was hurt I'm sure he was in a diar hurry to get here (especially since it was that last 20-30 feet he was sliding around on). Seems to me law enforcement officers are trained to travel safely under ALL conditions. But then again, you are the smartest person I've ever met, so I'm sure you're right on that one too. The cop was just in a hurry and being clumbsy. Simple as that. Everybody else was sliding all over the road too that day, so I'm sure they were just in a hurry and being careless idiots too. I wish you were here so you could teach all of us idiots how to drive. Because you're such a smart and caring guy. I really do wish there were more people like you in this world. Everything would be perfect, because you are so perfect.
Please, could you just stop posting stupid things on this thread that I have to constantly come back and prove wrong since they ARE wrong? You are wasting my time and it's really getting annoying.
Later
Chuck
Please, could you just stop posting stupid things on this thread that I have to constantly come back and prove wrong since they ARE wrong? You are wasting my time and it's really getting annoying.
Later
Chuck
Yeah, it's water under the bridge now.
I've lost control of my FD at 10-15 mph in wet condition before too bc of balding tires. We all could use a lesson.
As far as taking fault, I guess Nick will get some points on his driving records. If he doesn't care for the FD, he should care for his driving records, especially if he is as hard working as his brother claims.
Having said everything, I wouldn't be surprised if he wrecks his BMW. But then again, those 330's are much easiler to replace. Maybe a 4x4 would be a better choice for those roads...
I've lost control of my FD at 10-15 mph in wet condition before too bc of balding tires. We all could use a lesson.
As far as taking fault, I guess Nick will get some points on his driving records. If he doesn't care for the FD, he should care for his driving records, especially if he is as hard working as his brother claims.
Having said everything, I wouldn't be surprised if he wrecks his BMW. But then again, those 330's are much easiler to replace. Maybe a 4x4 would be a better choice for those roads...
Oh, and maybe, just MAYBE when you take into consideration 2700 lbs multiplied by 10-15 mph of force, coliding with 50+ year old concrete that likely COULD have a few weak spots, I would come to the conclusion that yes, that concrete could break under that kind of pressure. But then again, you are still the smartest person I know. So you are probably right. It was just my stupid, lying, no good idiot, 18 year old brother. We should just kill all males under the age of 20. They'll never amount to anything in life...
Oops, were you were 18 once? How could this be? Please, do tell me. When you were between the ages 16 and 20, were you were the smartest most sensible person in the world?? 99.9% of you on here know the answer to that question is a resounding NO! So then why do you have no mercy for those guys on this forum? If a person on this forum is under the age of 20 and is driving an FD3, he autmatically gets labeled as..
A) A spoiled brat who's parents bought him his car
B) A spoiled brat who doesn't deserve his car
C) A drug dealer (which in many cases could be true
)
and D) An idiot because he's only __ years old
Do you guys realize how much you make yourselves look like idiots by doing this? For goodness sake, can't you ever think back to the days you were there age? Don't you wish you had the resources they have now? Wouldn't you feel better helping these guys learn stuff about their cars and molding them into cool cars guys like yourselves (If I can even assume that about some of you)? Instead of always making them feel like crap because they're younger than you... Which in my opinion could very likely be WHY we have this huge "ricer" epidimic in this country. Because us older car guys are so hard on the younger ones for being "idiots" that they stop coming to the guys like us who can really help them, and start going to their peers who you know full well can't help them any better than they can help themselves. So in turn we now have what we label as ricers... who are simply young kids who don't know anything about cars. Can't you see this???? I'm serious, you guys here on rx7club.com have some serious issues. I don't see it near as bad in other forums. You guys are the absolute WORST about this. SO GROW UP!
Later
Chuck
Oops, were you were 18 once? How could this be? Please, do tell me. When you were between the ages 16 and 20, were you were the smartest most sensible person in the world?? 99.9% of you on here know the answer to that question is a resounding NO! So then why do you have no mercy for those guys on this forum? If a person on this forum is under the age of 20 and is driving an FD3, he autmatically gets labeled as..
A) A spoiled brat who's parents bought him his car
B) A spoiled brat who doesn't deserve his car
C) A drug dealer (which in many cases could be true
)and D) An idiot because he's only __ years old
Do you guys realize how much you make yourselves look like idiots by doing this? For goodness sake, can't you ever think back to the days you were there age? Don't you wish you had the resources they have now? Wouldn't you feel better helping these guys learn stuff about their cars and molding them into cool cars guys like yourselves (If I can even assume that about some of you)? Instead of always making them feel like crap because they're younger than you... Which in my opinion could very likely be WHY we have this huge "ricer" epidimic in this country. Because us older car guys are so hard on the younger ones for being "idiots" that they stop coming to the guys like us who can really help them, and start going to their peers who you know full well can't help them any better than they can help themselves. So in turn we now have what we label as ricers... who are simply young kids who don't know anything about cars. Can't you see this???? I'm serious, you guys here on rx7club.com have some serious issues. I don't see it near as bad in other forums. You guys are the absolute WORST about this. SO GROW UP!
Later
Chuck
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Originally posted by djantlive
Yeah, it's water under the bridge now.
I've lost control of my FD at 10-15 mph in wet condition before too bc of balding tires. We all could use a lesson.
As far as taking fault, I guess Nick will get some points on his driving records. If he doesn't care for the FD, he should care for his driving records, especially if he is as hard working as his brother claims.
Having said everything, I wouldn't be surprised if he wrecks his BMW. But then again, those 330's are much easiler to replace. Maybe a 4x4 would be a better choice for those roads...
Yeah, it's water under the bridge now.
I've lost control of my FD at 10-15 mph in wet condition before too bc of balding tires. We all could use a lesson.
As far as taking fault, I guess Nick will get some points on his driving records. If he doesn't care for the FD, he should care for his driving records, especially if he is as hard working as his brother claims.
Having said everything, I wouldn't be surprised if he wrecks his BMW. But then again, those 330's are much easiler to replace. Maybe a 4x4 would be a better choice for those roads...
Later
Chuck
Originally posted by agent712
I'm Nick's brother, and you know what f*cking pisses ME off? You. My brother is a very hard worker... he works for my parents full time making more money than most people twice his age make. And he should be considered one of the most highly respected youth in our community. Doesn't drink, smoke, cuss, and definitely doesn't do drugs. So you're getting upset at him makes me get very upset with YOU for your IGNORANCE in blaming him for this accident. Givin the situation the same thing would have happened to you. You have no idea what this road can get like at times, and you have NO IDEA how much we gripe at the county about fixing it... My brother failed to mention that the sheriff who came out to write up the report was sliding around from side to side when he pulled up to the scene (which my dad told him to include in the accident report). The fact that he had bald tires doesn't exactly help this situation, but I can guarantee you, if you saw this road, you would shut the f*ck up. Had little-nothing to do with the tires... Driving on this road on days like that day is like trying to drive on 3-4" of grease.
And as for why he was driving it in those type of conditions? Well it was his only car... and if you only had one car do you think YOU could decide what weather you can or can't drive in? I think not. So get off your high horse of blaming my brother for this. People like you make me happy to see a nice car go down like this and hurt their feelings. You think I wasn't a little bummed to see that car end the way it did? Of course I was. But sheesh, get over it. It's a CAR. It can be what you call REPLACED.
I'm Nick's brother, and you know what f*cking pisses ME off? You. My brother is a very hard worker... he works for my parents full time making more money than most people twice his age make. And he should be considered one of the most highly respected youth in our community. Doesn't drink, smoke, cuss, and definitely doesn't do drugs. So you're getting upset at him makes me get very upset with YOU for your IGNORANCE in blaming him for this accident. Givin the situation the same thing would have happened to you. You have no idea what this road can get like at times, and you have NO IDEA how much we gripe at the county about fixing it... My brother failed to mention that the sheriff who came out to write up the report was sliding around from side to side when he pulled up to the scene (which my dad told him to include in the accident report). The fact that he had bald tires doesn't exactly help this situation, but I can guarantee you, if you saw this road, you would shut the f*ck up. Had little-nothing to do with the tires... Driving on this road on days like that day is like trying to drive on 3-4" of grease.
And as for why he was driving it in those type of conditions? Well it was his only car... and if you only had one car do you think YOU could decide what weather you can or can't drive in? I think not. So get off your high horse of blaming my brother for this. People like you make me happy to see a nice car go down like this and hurt their feelings. You think I wasn't a little bummed to see that car end the way it did? Of course I was. But sheesh, get over it. It's a CAR. It can be what you call REPLACED.
#1 - Don't you think your brother is old enough to speak for himself and defend his own position? Being the most highly respected youth in the county and all....
#2 - You and Nick continue to point out the fact that he paid for the FD and now the BMW with his own money. I would sure like to think that if he could afford a $30,000+ BMW that he could afford a second car (or TRUCK?!?!) which would have been better suited for the conditions present on that road. That is the point. That RX-7 had absolutely NO business driving on a road which you describe as 'like trying to drive on 3-4" of grease'. I'm sure you could find thousands of decent older Chevy or Ford trucks for less than $1,000 in Nebraska. That is where his irresponsibility comes in. And you both OBVIOUSLY knew the conditions on the road were like that, and could have EASILY prevented what happened.
#3 - Your point about 2700 lbs of force at 10-15 mph breaking the concrete is totally bunk due to one of your other comments. An FD sliding on 3/4" of grease at 10-15 mph is not going to bust off that bridge like that. It would hit the pillar and spin around on that grease like a spinning top....especially with those bald tires.
Really though, just give it up. Nobody here is saying your brother is a bad kid. Bad kids aren't the only ones who do stupid things. There have been some unneccessary comments, but just ignore those. They are just as immature as they claim your brother to be.
Just realize that your brothers COMMENTS, and not his ACTIONS are what started all this.
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You people are idiots!!!
My name's Nik, and i work for these guys's parents and drive down that road EVERYDAY. That day IT WAS HORRIBLE! Me and my other co-workers besides Nick ALL lost it that day somewhere along that road. It sucked! But he had the bald tires and little weight and apparently 15MPH was too fast! If he had been going OVER 15, he prolly wouldn't have made it out just fine as he did. So what if he's young?? Does every black man own a gun?? Idiots. Almost all of you. Yeah maybe he's made some driving errors in the past, not many i can think of, he's a GREAT driver, but at this moment in time, he made NO mistake except to drive SAFELY at a decent speed of 15 MPH on THIS CRAPPY ROAD! And by the way, those boys PAY FOR ALL of their cars THEMSELVES, so don't be jealous, just work harder...or something. lol. And auto-xin better in the FD?? Maybe totally modded, but seriously who are you kidding? Porsches AND BMW's own the track! And we have proof lol. And honestly, comments such as "hang the kid"?? Get real and YOU f***ing GROW UP! What ever happened to "Oh glad to hear you are ok, too bad about the car
" ?!?! Idiots. Honestly, i've followed this forum for quite some time since he has owned his car and i've learned a few things: your car is the best, your car is the fastest, young kids are spoiled and stupid, and others i don't care to mention. Here's the truth: THERE IS ALWAYS A FASTER CAR!! The Mazda RX-7 is NOT the best car!! And not EVERY kid is spoiled and dumb. And oh yeah, your motors are WEAK!! I've always wanted to say that to you fools. I always followed Nick's modifying of his "FD" and oh my goodness! His motor blew running like 12PSI OF BOOST!!!! you can run like 18 on an ALL STOCK motor in a Z32TT. So get over yourselves and move on. You want the car, go steal it. Or else shut UP! Losers. Honestly. Get over yourselves and your poorly designed cars. (Nick, don't be too mad at me for that last one
it's gone now so i can say what i want lol. )
Nik
" ?!?! Idiots. Honestly, i've followed this forum for quite some time since he has owned his car and i've learned a few things: your car is the best, your car is the fastest, young kids are spoiled and stupid, and others i don't care to mention. Here's the truth: THERE IS ALWAYS A FASTER CAR!! The Mazda RX-7 is NOT the best car!! And not EVERY kid is spoiled and dumb. And oh yeah, your motors are WEAK!! I've always wanted to say that to you fools. I always followed Nick's modifying of his "FD" and oh my goodness! His motor blew running like 12PSI OF BOOST!!!! you can run like 18 on an ALL STOCK motor in a Z32TT. So get over yourselves and move on. You want the car, go steal it. Or else shut UP! Losers. Honestly. Get over yourselves and your poorly designed cars. (Nick, don't be too mad at me for that last one
it's gone now so i can say what i want lol. )Nik
oh yeah....
Hey Chuck,
#1 - Don't you think your brother is old enough to speak for himself and defend his own position? Being the most highly respected youth in the county and all....
#2 - You and Nick continue to point out the fact that he paid for the FD and now the BMW with his own money. I would sure like to think that if he could afford a $30,000+ BMW that he could afford a second car (or TRUCK?!?!) which would have been better suited for the conditions present on that road. That is the point. That RX-7 had absolutely NO business driving on a road which you describe as 'like trying to drive on 3-4" of grease'. I'm sure you could find thousands of decent older Chevy or Ford trucks for less than $1,000 in Nebraska. That is where his irresponsibility comes in. And you both OBVIOUSLY knew the conditions on the road were like that, and could have EASILY prevented what happened.
#3 - Your point about 2700 lbs of force at 10-15 mph breaking the concrete is totally bunk due to one of your other comments. An FD sliding on 3/4" of grease at 10-15 mph is not going to bust off that bridge like that. It would hit the pillar and spin around on that grease like a spinning top....especially with those bald tires.
Really though, just give it up. Nobody here is saying your brother is a bad kid. Bad kids aren't the only ones who do stupid things. There have been some unneccessary comments, but just ignore those. They are just as immature as they claim your brother to be.
Just realize that your brothers COMMENTS, and not his ACTIONS are what started all this.
You are an idiot also. WHO ARE YOU to decide what weather the FD can drive in?"NO BUSINESS" driving on that road?? It is a car isn't it? stupid. It isn't yours. And a 2nd car? that is a SAD attempt at an argument. I have a second car and i don't have as much money as he does. Maybe he didnt' want a second car. The only reason i can think of that he would need one is that the FD sukt and spent more time in the shop than at his house! Nick is not a bad kid, and did NOTHING wrong. No "stupid things" here. I drove on the road. I KNOW. I was there! so i will vouch for him. you mean nothing. my testimony does.
you're done. all of you. shut up.
Nik
#1 - Don't you think your brother is old enough to speak for himself and defend his own position? Being the most highly respected youth in the county and all....
#2 - You and Nick continue to point out the fact that he paid for the FD and now the BMW with his own money. I would sure like to think that if he could afford a $30,000+ BMW that he could afford a second car (or TRUCK?!?!) which would have been better suited for the conditions present on that road. That is the point. That RX-7 had absolutely NO business driving on a road which you describe as 'like trying to drive on 3-4" of grease'. I'm sure you could find thousands of decent older Chevy or Ford trucks for less than $1,000 in Nebraska. That is where his irresponsibility comes in. And you both OBVIOUSLY knew the conditions on the road were like that, and could have EASILY prevented what happened.
#3 - Your point about 2700 lbs of force at 10-15 mph breaking the concrete is totally bunk due to one of your other comments. An FD sliding on 3/4" of grease at 10-15 mph is not going to bust off that bridge like that. It would hit the pillar and spin around on that grease like a spinning top....especially with those bald tires.
Really though, just give it up. Nobody here is saying your brother is a bad kid. Bad kids aren't the only ones who do stupid things. There have been some unneccessary comments, but just ignore those. They are just as immature as they claim your brother to be.
Just realize that your brothers COMMENTS, and not his ACTIONS are what started all this.
You are an idiot also. WHO ARE YOU to decide what weather the FD can drive in?"NO BUSINESS" driving on that road?? It is a car isn't it? stupid. It isn't yours. And a 2nd car? that is a SAD attempt at an argument. I have a second car and i don't have as much money as he does. Maybe he didnt' want a second car. The only reason i can think of that he would need one is that the FD sukt and spent more time in the shop than at his house! Nick is not a bad kid, and did NOTHING wrong. No "stupid things" here. I drove on the road. I KNOW. I was there! so i will vouch for him. you mean nothing. my testimony does.
you're done. all of you. shut up. Nik
i might be completely wrong.. but by looking at the pic.. it seems like NICK went little faster then he claim.. And I think thats why people are jumping all over you..
Looking at the pic, the passenger side of the car hit the concrete pillar.. then the car went off the the creek.. In order to knock the pillar in half, you are going lot faster than 15mph.. and hitting it will side of the car.. I could be wrong.. i'm just going by the pics.. it could be the front of the car.. and when I think of it, i don't think over 15mph impact on the passenger side door/fender area would be greater damage.. but it looks like it wasn't too bad.. if it was hit on that side..
well, I think we should give this kid a break.. We all did stupid things.. I still do it.. like getting into a small/minor fenderbender, because I was driving it being on the phone, looking at the commander (when I first bought my PFC), and got 4 hours of sleep..
Looking at the pic, the passenger side of the car hit the concrete pillar.. then the car went off the the creek.. In order to knock the pillar in half, you are going lot faster than 15mph.. and hitting it will side of the car.. I could be wrong.. i'm just going by the pics.. it could be the front of the car.. and when I think of it, i don't think over 15mph impact on the passenger side door/fender area would be greater damage.. but it looks like it wasn't too bad.. if it was hit on that side..
well, I think we should give this kid a break.. We all did stupid things.. I still do it.. like getting into a small/minor fenderbender, because I was driving it being on the phone, looking at the commander (when I first bought my PFC), and got 4 hours of sleep..
Originally posted by Brad
Hey Chuck,
#1 - Don't you think your brother is old enough to speak for himself and defend his own position? Being the most highly respected youth in the county and all....
Hey Chuck,
#1 - Don't you think your brother is old enough to speak for himself and defend his own position? Being the most highly respected youth in the county and all....
Originally posted by Brad
#2 - You and Nick continue to point out the fact that he paid for the FD and now the BMW with his own money. I would sure like to think that if he could afford a $30,000+ BMW that he could afford a second car (or TRUCK?!?!) which would have been better suited for the conditions present on that road. That is the point. That RX-7 had absolutely NO business driving on a road which you describe as 'like trying to drive on 3-4" of grease'. I'm sure you could find thousands of decent older Chevy or Ford trucks for less than $1,000 in Nebraska. That is where his irresponsibility comes in. And you both OBVIOUSLY knew the conditions on the road were like that, and could have EASILY prevented what happened.
#2 - You and Nick continue to point out the fact that he paid for the FD and now the BMW with his own money. I would sure like to think that if he could afford a $30,000+ BMW that he could afford a second car (or TRUCK?!?!) which would have been better suited for the conditions present on that road. That is the point. That RX-7 had absolutely NO business driving on a road which you describe as 'like trying to drive on 3-4" of grease'. I'm sure you could find thousands of decent older Chevy or Ford trucks for less than $1,000 in Nebraska. That is where his irresponsibility comes in. And you both OBVIOUSLY knew the conditions on the road were like that, and could have EASILY prevented what happened.
Originally posted by Brad
#3 - Your point about 2700 lbs of force at 10-15 mph breaking the concrete is totally bunk due to one of your other comments. An FD sliding on 3/4" of grease at 10-15 mph is not going to bust off that bridge like that. It would hit the pillar and spin around on that grease like a spinning top....especially with those bald tires.
#3 - Your point about 2700 lbs of force at 10-15 mph breaking the concrete is totally bunk due to one of your other comments. An FD sliding on 3/4" of grease at 10-15 mph is not going to bust off that bridge like that. It would hit the pillar and spin around on that grease like a spinning top....especially with those bald tires.
Originally posted by Brad
Really though, just give it up. Nobody here is saying your brother is a bad kid. Bad kids aren't the only ones who do stupid things. There have been some unneccessary comments, but just ignore those. They are just as immature as they claim your brother to be.
Just realize that your brothers COMMENTS, and not his ACTIONS are what started all this.
Really though, just give it up. Nobody here is saying your brother is a bad kid. Bad kids aren't the only ones who do stupid things. There have been some unneccessary comments, but just ignore those. They are just as immature as they claim your brother to be.
Just realize that your brothers COMMENTS, and not his ACTIONS are what started all this.
Later
Chuck






