Thank you Rich!!

 

"I think some people are missing the point. He's not saying he wants a Viper for performance reasons. He wants a Viper because the price tag will distance him from the "Fast and the Furious" crowd that now owns third gen. RX-7s. "

Hmmm, I wonder what the Viper people are saying about us who can now afford to own a $40+ Viper. Wonder what they are looking to buy to distance themselves from us

Seriously, as a weekend warrior, the Viper will distance you from everyone else. Depending on where you live, you'll rarely see one of these on the road. I have a friend who has a '96 GTS and it sure draws a crowd at local auto shows. It is a garage queen, though (as it seems most Vipers are - all low mileage). Not sure you'd want to make it your daily driver, although I'd give it a shot I'd keep my FD as the daily beater and take the Viper out on weekends

 

no offense, but if you think about it....buying a USED car for status is kinda ironic isn't it? keep the FD !!!!! hehe...

 

Exactly! All these points are well taken guys. I just realized my argument about either getting the nsx or the rx-7 isn't asn't flawed as I nce perceived it to be. Since performance isn't obviously an issue here, and status-quo is, I'd say you can't get more exotic than with the nsx withought spending the big bucks.

I guess I'm slightly biased in this aspect. You see, I own a Nissan Sentra right now and that is the only car I have ever own. I have driven single turbo rx-7's and the like, but for a person like me, I am just not used to having a higher horsepower car on a daily basis. What I am trying to say is that I am much 'easier to please' since ho numbers would just be garble to me comapred to my 95rwhp that the sentra is putting down.

It's hard to believe performance isn't an issue, but okay let's delve into the obvious. No matter what car you buy, how long you have it, or if you like ir or now, someone, somewhere will have your car. I'm sure most of you are very unique people simply based on the fact that you own an rx-7 to begin with. Once we rich this epitome, it's pretty hard to "downgrade" ourselves to a car that doesn't meet all our expectations. Reason being? We have been spoiled with our rx-7's!!!

Personally, if you just are tired of seeing others having your car, isn't that what mods are for? Start by getting that bodykit that you always wanted. Change the looks to suit your tastes while at the same time making it look as different to another's car as possible (this is of course all assuming that you havn't done this already, post pics please )

Other than that, I'm burnt out on this subject, many a people have contributed good arguments and I'm not one to judge them, but instead comment on them and respond in a duely manner that promotes understanding among fellow car enthusiasts.

With all this said and done, I think that the only viable thign to do is do what I did last week, and get your M1 license!!! Once you buy a bike, there's a whole new territory to explore and that hopefully will keep you busy for many years to come. Otherwise, if it's a car that you so longly desire, get one that meets your needs.

It's the day when a person buys their car for the sole sake of being orginal, that all car enthusiasts will weep knowing that our time in the sun has diminished to nothingness. Do we not buy our cars because we love them? Do we not but our blood, sweat, and tears into them because we cherish our work? Nay?! Then we have become another relentless troll in society where we base our decesions on others and car not of our own. When this day comes, I will too weep...

 

did you just get back from a renaissance fair?

yeah, and technofag is not smart enough to fix his "complex turbo system," so he blames the design...big deal.

with respect to viper or no viper, here in ghetto Iowa, I see about the same number of vipers as FDs, so the rarity/status thing is kind of a moot point.....but we aren't all in IA are we. plus luckily i haven't seen a riced out FD here yet *knock on wood*

 

Once you buy a bike, there's a whole new territory to explore and that hopefully will keep you busy for many years to come

amen

 

I have a friend who last year crashed his bike and was in the hospital for three months, and three broken vertabrea later can barely walk around now.No way.


I really like the NSX but I said it was overpriced not too expensive. My RX7, at 1/2 half the cost will spank a NSX and a Viper will rape the NSX for the same or slightly less. I perfer the rounded swooping shape of the RX7-Viper better too. By the way status-quo is what I am trying to get away from. It means to keep things the same.
As many seem to be over looking, performance IS an issue. With the modded RX7 vs. the Viper the level of performance is implied in the name. They both kick ***.It's just that the differance between them is not as big an issue as I can make the 7 out perform the Viper for about the 1/2 the cost of selling the 7and buying a Viper.

 

On RX-7 vs Viper -

To each his own... I personally do not care for the looks of the Viper at all, but I could easily see why some like it. I also don't give a hoot about "status factor" so that's out. Performance? I think my RX-7 has plenty. So just get whatever car will make you feel good driving it. It's YOUR car, so who cares what the list people think is the right one for you to buy.

On RX-7s and "The Fast and the Furious" -

Yes, this disgusts me too. When I see a pimped out RX-7 with 5000+ dollars in non-performance mods yet it still makes only 5 PSI of boost and has 10 other problems it really pisses me off. Those people and those cars give MY RX-7 a bad name. I bet the Pinto was considered to be fine daily transportation until a few blew up, ruining the name forever. Those sorry RX-7s running around out there ruin the reputation of my car so I try my best to help out ALL owners to make sure that their car is getting the attention it needs.

The only "good" thing is that in the wrong hands the car doesn't last long and will end up in the scrap heap in short order. Think of it as euthanasia for abused cars.

Brian

 

well i would pick a viper up in no time if i had the cash. however, i too may be selling my rx7. i really dont want to, but i have just bee throwing things around in my head. financially i can afford the car, but i am working 45 hours a week and going to school 12units a semester. i have been called crazy and it is slowly wearing me. once i become my goal, attorney, i wouldnt have a problem buying a viper, rx7, 911 gt2, ferrari, etc... now its a talk it over with myself thing. yes i talk to myself and i do answer back. CRAZY, hell yeah. okay like any of you needed to know my dillema. donovan, you will make the right choice. if you keep the rx7 BNR's sound yummy and suspension is damn near done. if you get the viper, well **** you wouldnt need to do much. well except for take me for a ride.
kris

 

Well put suprfast hehe. Well then since performance IS an issue. Get the Ciper and be down with it . Oh and I forgot to add, if this is your only car, I would consider the NSX based on the sole fact that it's as luxurious as a lexus and can still hold it's own on the track. Plus that VTEC engine sure knows how to *whineeeeeeeeeeeeeeee*.....................

All I can say is, thanks guys, I love you all. You have rekindled my love for the RX-7 and I proud to say that I have decided to get the RX-7 over the NSX based on the fact that it was my first, and surely will be my last . I would hate to think that all the books and knowledge I gained about this magnificent car would be in vain. Now it surely will not be. Have a goog night everybody!

 

FD's rule.

 

thanks silex. i have to say its a good choice getting the FD over the NSX. i do like the looks of the NSX cause its a tad more exotic like, but in performance its all about the FD. **** im young though, i can work and do school. thats what youth is for right, atleast that is what i have been told
kris

 

If you are strickly looking at performance (read horse power) to $$$$$ issue, the NSX isn't even in the race. People don't buy NSX's for horse power. It's a style and unique issue when purchasing a car like that.

If you are looking strickly at performance vs price, the Z06 IMO is the top dawg. For the price of a used Viper, you can practically pick up a new Z06. The Z06 has a MUCH better interior (something you would expect when paying that much for a car), much better ride, and weight/power ratio is almost the same as the GTS. Plus, it would be new, no previous owner(s).

IMO, horse power alone doens't make a car great. I was pretty high on Vipers for a while until I recently compared one with a Z06. Granted, you see Vettes all over the streets but they are still nice cars.

I took my father to test drive a 2003 Z06 yesterday, and I was extremely impressed. However, my own personal tastes, I would rather have the NSX.

 

yep for the cost of a viper, you can probably pic up a zo6 and add 20k in mods and have a car that will outperform just about everything. But you'll still be driving a corvette which is far less rare than the FD or Viper

 

Rare? If rare was the case, at least where I live the NSX would be the car. I see far more FD's around on the roads than NSX's (and I see more Vipers than NSX's as well).

However, he seems to be more concerned with power than anything else (if you read his posts).

 

So much mis-information I love this forum!

 

That's quite a garage you've got there, Bill....

 

if you sell the rx7 get a skyline... now that is a fast car that no one has...
-Keith

 

A skyline from motorex is like 80-90 g's. A used viper will max at what.... 65k. And how many times a month do you see a viper.... but then again, how many times do you see a skyline...

 

AS A CURRENT VIPER OWNER AS WELL AS A CURRENT
RX7 OWNER THE ONLY THING I SUGGESTION WOULD
BE WHY? IF YOU WANT THE CAR FOR OCCASIONAL
USE AND NOT EVERYDAY THEN GO FOR IT, BUT IF ITS
YOUR EVERYDAY RIDE DONT. I LOVE THEM BOTH BUT
EACH HAS ITS LIMITATIONS.

 

you are talking about an r34... you can get an r33 for pretty cheap...
-Keith

 

I understand the argument that there are a bunch of younger people buying sevens and ricing them out. But not all of us are like that. Me I am 18, in college and have been saving up for a 7 since I was 15 and first learned about them. I have been on this forum for a little while and I plan on buying my 7 doing reliability mods and then doing performance mods from there. I can see how the younger crowd gets the stereotype of being ricers but not all are like that. I just hate it when you older members criticize us younger members. I look up to you guys, and I would think that some of you would be happy that the select few of us youngins have such a fascination with the car. I would think that you would be happy that this car is captivating the minds of a younger generation. And as for some of the other stereotypes, yeah I have two tattoos and three peircings but does that make me a ricer? I don't think so. But maybe I just need to prove myself. I think that idea is pretty dumb seeing as how I shouldn't have to prove anything to anyone else than myself. But if that is what I have to do to gain respect, than I will. I'll buy my 7 and show you guys that not everyone under the age of 30 will rice their car out. Look for me in the coming months and see my mods, I will gaurntee you that you won't see a body kit, or neon lights, or anything else of that nature on my car. And someday when my company gets to it we will make a body kit for the seven. But it is going to keep with the lines. It isn't going to completely change the car. It's going to just do some things very small no huge spoilers or that. It will be very simple and it will compliment the lines and natural beauty of the car. I respect the way this car looks. I think that a 7 can look and be so much more intimidating when it looks stock and all you can see is the fmic. I think that right there makes the car look like a beast.

- Steiner

 

Man...don't think that way dude! See the problem is that you think that a majority of all 30+ year olds think that way. It's the reverse side of the spectrum flipped around! Just because a few forum members say it doesn't mean that it's true. Quite the contrary really. don't think too much into the subject matter, it will only burn you later. Love the car for what it is, it's uniqueness, and just with a passion. Read my previous post about 'weeping'? I'm starting to pretty soon...

 

a ha. I see. I didn't even realize when I was writing that, that I was being so hypocritical. Wow that's a kick in the face. Well I publicly apollogize for that. But for the main part I was directing it towards some of the first posts about how the 7 is being over run by ricers. Sorry and thank you.

- Steiner

 

Why bother with a Viper? Do the 3-rotor conversion and slightly mod the beast. Then, buy the '99 spec bodykit and you're ready to go. You got the latest looks and more than enough power to hand the Viper it's *** on a tray hot from the oven. Well, that's my opinion. Plus, you get to keep the beloved FD.