Test your knowledge (need help with single turbo setup)
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ok i am not sure where to begin but i need some help on getting my car running again if you can figure this one out I will be very impressed
I have tried a lot of things and i haven't been able to find the problem yet
I burned up my stock twin turbos about 2 months ago
and decided to go single turbo
I installed a t04 with an hks cast manifold and a hks standard waste gate
redid all the vaccum lines and removed all the smog stuff
I also was delighted to get rid of the rats nest
now here is the problem
I start the car and it fires up perfectly
the car will idle for the next six year or at least thats how good it sounds
it even revs perfectly
but then...
as soon as i get to where boost should start to build it chokes
the motor sounds like its gasping for air or more spark
I have check everything time and time again
run countless searches and come up with nothing.
I tested the ignition and found a bad lead coil and replaced it
that helped but it still didn't solve the problem
I am out of ideas and am asking for people to just throw stuff out.
things i might have passed over or just not even know about
but please be specific
thanks I will post picks of this car when i get it running
its kind of a one of a kind
I have tried a lot of things and i haven't been able to find the problem yet
I burned up my stock twin turbos about 2 months ago
and decided to go single turbo
I installed a t04 with an hks cast manifold and a hks standard waste gate
redid all the vaccum lines and removed all the smog stuff
I also was delighted to get rid of the rats nest
now here is the problem
I start the car and it fires up perfectly
the car will idle for the next six year or at least thats how good it sounds
it even revs perfectly
but then...
as soon as i get to where boost should start to build it chokes
the motor sounds like its gasping for air or more spark
I have check everything time and time again
run countless searches and come up with nothing.
I tested the ignition and found a bad lead coil and replaced it
that helped but it still didn't solve the problem
I am out of ideas and am asking for people to just throw stuff out.
things i might have passed over or just not even know about
but please be specific
thanks I will post picks of this car when i get it running
its kind of a one of a kind
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Originally posted by T88Rx7
check your map sensor, might have went bad. if its not that then the car maybe needing more fuel or your pluga are bad
check your map sensor, might have went bad. if its not that then the car maybe needing more fuel or your pluga are bad
I only know this because I had the hose on my map sensor pop off, and I had the above mentioned symptoms. -FD-in-FC- said his car idles "perfectly..."
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Since you have gone single, what type of ECU are you running? Were your maps based on the stock twins or were they non-seq? At idle, how much vacuum are you pulling and do you see any pulsation in the reading?
Thanks,
Steven
PS. Also, what is your static fuel pressure reading? Do you have any aftermarket regulator? If the leading coil had gone bad, make sure to check the spark plugs. They may be a little fouled and need to be dried out.
Thanks,
Steven
PS. Also, what is your static fuel pressure reading? Do you have any aftermarket regulator? If the leading coil had gone bad, make sure to check the spark plugs. They may be a little fouled and need to be dried out.
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Originally posted by FDNewbie
I'm prob not in the position to second guess other ppl on the forum...BUT, if you have a bad or disconnected map sensor, I'm pretty sure she won't idle nice at all. You'll get lots and lots of blue smoke, crazy hesitation in throttle response, but you should still be able to boost.
I only know this because I had the hose on my map sensor pop off, and I had the above mentioned symptoms. -FD-in-FC- said his car idles "perfectly..."
I'm prob not in the position to second guess other ppl on the forum...BUT, if you have a bad or disconnected map sensor, I'm pretty sure she won't idle nice at all. You'll get lots and lots of blue smoke, crazy hesitation in throttle response, but you should still be able to boost.
I only know this because I had the hose on my map sensor pop off, and I had the above mentioned symptoms. -FD-in-FC- said his car idles "perfectly..."
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Originally posted by T88Rx7
yes you are right, but your talking about the hose coming off, i had a bad map sensor once do to failer high voltage, it idle fined but i changed it and i worked great after that and did the same symptoms he has
yes you are right, but your talking about the hose coming off, i had a bad map sensor once do to failer high voltage, it idle fined but i changed it and i worked great after that and did the same symptoms he has
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Ok
here is the total setup
I have stock fuel rails and injectors
upgraded pump but am only trying to run 5.7 psi till i have enough money to upgrade the fuel and ignition
I have a V mounted spearco intercooler
with custom piping
custom 3" downpipe
custom intake
mine's ecu upgrade that i have never been able to get any info about and most likely was tuned for the stock twins
this car was fast and ran really well before i burned up the turbos
I checked the plugs and the spark and eveything seems good the motor came with "NGK R" plugs =)
I am going to go spend some more time pondering over the car but I don't know what else it could be
maybe the map sensor is bad.
is there a way to check?
thanks for all the response
lets crack this bastard and get it back on the road
thanks
NIC
here is the total setup
I have stock fuel rails and injectors
upgraded pump but am only trying to run 5.7 psi till i have enough money to upgrade the fuel and ignition
I have a V mounted spearco intercooler
with custom piping
custom 3" downpipe
custom intake
mine's ecu upgrade that i have never been able to get any info about and most likely was tuned for the stock twins
this car was fast and ran really well before i burned up the turbos
I checked the plugs and the spark and eveything seems good the motor came with "NGK R" plugs =)
I am going to go spend some more time pondering over the car but I don't know what else it could be
maybe the map sensor is bad.
is there a way to check?
thanks for all the response
lets crack this bastard and get it back on the road
thanks
NIC
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oh and one more thing
do i have to have a aftermarket fuel controller to run a single turbo
I was under the impression that i didn't but correct me if i am wrong
that might be the problem
do i have to have a aftermarket fuel controller to run a single turbo
I was under the impression that i didn't but correct me if i am wrong
that might be the problem
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You could be rich, it will stumble and pop like nuts when going into boost. Having an unknown ecu with a single is a bit scary. Get a PFC and get it tuned, that is your problem.
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yeah that has been what i have been thinking
I would love to get a wide banned o2 sensor and find out for sure
probably end up reading in the 7's =\
but at least i would know and could fix the problem
as far as the solenoids i just removed them
I was never able to get too much of a straight answer about the right thing to do with them
everybody seems to have their own way
I just didn't want to cut anything out pre maturely
any tips would be very appreciative
thanks again
NIC
I would love to get a wide banned o2 sensor and find out for sure
probably end up reading in the 7's =\
but at least i would know and could fix the problem
as far as the solenoids i just removed them
I was never able to get too much of a straight answer about the right thing to do with them
everybody seems to have their own way
I just didn't want to cut anything out pre maturely
any tips would be very appreciative
thanks again
NIC
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Car is running perfectly
turns out that the car had locked in a safe mode
hooked all the stock sensors and solenoids back up
and reset the ecu with the car in the "on" position
which i had never been told to do
and BOOM!!!!!
wow this car is fast and i am only running 5.7 psi
I am going to get some info together, some pics and footage, and I will post a link to it when i have it up
thanks for the help
got me thinking outside the box
NIC
turns out that the car had locked in a safe mode
hooked all the stock sensors and solenoids back up
and reset the ecu with the car in the "on" position
which i had never been told to do
and BOOM!!!!!
wow this car is fast and i am only running 5.7 psi
I am going to get some info together, some pics and footage, and I will post a link to it when i have it up
thanks for the help
got me thinking outside the box
NIC
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