CharlieUK

Hi Guys,

At the moment my FD is pretty much standard, it could have an o ring failure but I haven't got around to doing the proper check to see if it is an o ring failure.
It's got a cat back, induction system and alloy radiator, but I've got plans on buying an ebay PFC soon and maybe some other things after that.

So, I've seen what looks like a good deal and am v tempted but would like some input on what else I might need to make it work or even if it's a good idea or not.

Here is the ad:

This is a rare oppertunity to buy an fd3s mazda rx7 engine that has had the expensive single turbo conversion already done, the turbo is an HKS kit with a garret t4 turbo, HKS cast manifold, HKS external wastgate and downpipe. This package comes complete with the full front mount intercooler kit , samco hoses, fuel presure regulator, HKS plugs, magnecor leads and a fully mapped apexi power fc ecu with commander. The package also has the benifit of having the rats nest removed along with the air-pump and the air-con pump, it also has an under drive pulley kit and the 5 speed manual gearbox. The engine was mapped by haywood rotary engines and it was compression checked with the following results: rear rotor 6.0 bar, 6.6 bar, 6.1 bar front rotor 6.2 bar, 6.3 bar, 6.2 bar the engine ran very well in the car and should produce around 400 bhp i have the invoice of the results i had planned to keep this engine but i have fitted an ls1 to my rx7 and need the money to finnish any questions just ask this comes with everything needed to run including loom and starter etc.

All this can be mine for around $2000 which sounds pretty good as I was going to pay $800 for a 2nd hand PFC and also I want a FMIC.
Do these compression reading sound ok, I'm guessing I would need an uprated fuel pump but not sure which, I'm on a budget so perhaps a Supra fuel pump but don't know if it would work.

The seller says it does have uprated injectors though I don't know which ones, I asked if the motor is ported but haven't had a reply yet.

I'm thinking well, if mine perhaps needs rebuilding that's at least $800 and once back together again I would want a PFC and FMIC, this engine "apparentley" doesn't need a rebuild and comes with the bonus of a single turbo conversion already , the turbo is a GT40R which I've read is pretty good.

I will really appreciate any advice you guys can give, thanks for your time.

Charlie

CharlieUK

The guy isn't very descriptive, I asked if it was ported, he replied yes but didn't say which porting has been done on it, the apex seals/o rings are standard which I think seems a bit odd, if it's been dismantled to be ported/tuned, surely it would have had uprated apex seals/o rings installed???

I also found out that the compression readings were done a long time ago so they shouldn't really be advertised should they....does anybody know if it's possible to do a compression test whilst the engine is outside of the car?

It seems a bit like a trickster selling a broke engine but he does say that it was running fine before it was taken out of the car......I keep getting tempted by all of the goodies that it comes with...mmmm single turbo, PFC, FMIC....

Ceylon

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Is this on pistonheads? Link? You can tell a lot more about how the cars been treated from pics

GoodfellaFD3S

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Those compression readings are not that great at all, and a GT40R is a Garrett, not an HKS turbo.

I've ported and rebuilt many engines with factory apex seals and o-rings, there's nothing wrong with doing that.

gracer7-rx7

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sounds like a decent deal all things considered.

CharlieUK

Cheers for the input guys, any news on if it's possible to test compression with the engine out of the car??

The engine has done 45k miles so I'm hoping that it "should" be in relatively good nic, he does state that he's never had any problems with it.....even if the engine isn't in great condition, perhaps it's still a good buy due to the extras it comes with?

It doesn't show in the pics but it comes with the tranny inc clutch which I'm assuming is an uprated clutch. He said that the only reason for romoval was because he's going LS1. I'm assuming that because he's also removed the air pump then perhaps it's just been used as a track day car?

It's not on Pistonheads but here are the pics:

Ceylon

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Oh...Ignore my post...Thought you we're talking about a complete car. Thought it was cheap!

Looks like a good deal imo.

CharlieUK

It does, thanks for the info, another downside though, I can't pop over to check it myself as it's in the depths of northern Scotland...

Also, I wish that I had like 95% of the users on this site have, yes you guessed it, a garage.....if I get thhis I will be taking out and installing an engine in the car park...!!!

CharlieUK

opinions anybody, I'm sure there's some more out there.......I was also wondering, would the hks downpipe attach ok to the cat?

What else would I need with this setup?

David Hayes

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So the engine has 45K miles on it after it was rebuilt? If so, not a good deal IMO. That is a lot of miles for a single turbo engine. Of course, at $2,000, you could always rebuild it for a couple of thousand.

rdahm

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The good news this seems legit. There is a reason this is priced as it is. caveat emptor. buyer beware, of course. :-) Only thing that bothers me is the used retail of each of the parts would be much more than $2k even fire sale priced. but 45k miles, maybe the guy is honest like the good people on here and wont sell it unreasonable.

I sold a guy my twins and airinx intake and efini ypipe for $350 just because i dont want to deal with him feeling ripped off, i dont need the money and taking parts back if they are crap is a PITA for me. maybe there is someone out there like me :-)

RIX-7

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This engine was sold on ebay a while ago with the same description. Must be a reason its up for sale again if it is for sale again ????????. And comp readings are poor.

CharlieUK

mmmm well maybe there are and maybe not.

I think its 45k miles in total, he's owned the car for 8 months so it was done before that, I really don't know how many miles its done since the conversion, could be 5k or 30k....

Like i said, the guy isn't very open with his answers, I really have to ask everything and get answers to 40% of my questions...either he doesn't have a clue how to sell of I thought maybe his English may not be up to scratch? we haven't spoken on the phone only via email.

I will ask how many miles it did after the conversion, but it's looking like it could be a good buy, I just want to know what else I would require to support the engine, other then an uprated fuel pump.

The saga continues.

GoodfellaFD3S

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With those compression numbers a fresh rebuild is going to be sooner rather than later.

CharlieUK

Are you sure? So your in the UK? hmm this doesn't sound too good, are the pictures the same as the one from ebay (was a little while ago I know). If your right, he didn't say anything about that!!!



sooner like 10,000 miles or like 2000 miles?? eek, I was thinking because it's cheap and it comes with turbo conversion, fmic, pfc etc then it may be still a reasonable deal and I could just perhaps rebuild it with fresh seals etc before I put it into the car? no answer yet about how many miles it's done since the conversion, whats the average shelf life on a turbo? I know it depends on the driver but I don't have that info.....

Jeeez, and there I was getting my hopes up!!!

Thanks for the help guys.

RIX-7

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[QUOTE=CharlieUK;9876349]Are you sure? So your in the UK? hmm this doesn't sound too good, are the pictures the same as the one from ebay (was a little while ago I know). If your right, he didn't say anything about that!!!

Same pics by the look of it and desciption. Could of had a mate bid it up and won it himself. Also have not seen it on MRC, And it would be on there.

Ceylon

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$2000 is cheap for a blown engine (especially with that turbo & auxiliaries) in the UK.

Although reading above it sounds dodgy.

CharlieUK

[QUOTE=RIX-7;9876519]well, the guy that has the engine is 100% not the guy that wrote the advert, I say this because this guy's English is not very good, he gives very short answers and I've noticed that since I've been firing lots of questions at him, he's gone silent???

That said, even if the engine is buggered, it comes with a pfc, fmic and single turbo conversion for £1k or maybe less.......however they could all be buggered aswell

I also asked him if he was on a rx7 forum but he didn't answer.....another funny thing, he's in Scotland and I assumed he was Scottish, last weekend England drew with Scotland in the Rugby so I made a pisstake with him and said that we were nice to let Scotland draw with England at the rugby last weekend....expecting some witty banter and a sarcy comment back....not a peep!!!

Whats MRC? Ah yes mazdarotaryclub. doh!!

CharlieUK

well, I guess the guy didn't want me coming back a month after buying this wanting a refund.....so he's now sold it to a buyer in America!!

Probably better not to have trusted that one anyway.

Thanks for your advice guys.