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11-06-01, 07:21 PM
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heh, I see some of you guys here are Taiwanese... As far as per capita income goes, i think it's a bit misleading. The reason the billionare per capita is probably so high is because the dirt poor per capita is probably also really high. I was in Asia this summer and it just seemed like the avg person was way worse off than the avg person here in America. The rich are REALLY rich, like ridiculously rich, but the avg person has to work so hard for very much less than we make here. HK actually seems to be on the decline since it was returned to China; it really seems like China is actively trying to move the financial center to ShangHai.
11-06-01, 07:49 PM
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Originally posted by potatobbq
heh, I see some of you guys here are Taiwanese... As far as per capita income goes, i think it's a bit misleading. The reason the billionare per capita is probably so high is because the dirt poor per capita is probably also really high. I was in Asia this summer and it just seemed like the avg person was way worse off than the avg person here in America. The rich are REALLY rich, like ridiculously rich, but the avg person has to work so hard for very much less than we make here. HK actually seems to be on the decline since it was returned to China; it really seems like China is actively trying to move the financial center to ShangHai.
heh, I see some of you guys here are Taiwanese... As far as per capita income goes, i think it's a bit misleading. The reason the billionare per capita is probably so high is because the dirt poor per capita is probably also really high. I was in Asia this summer and it just seemed like the avg person was way worse off than the avg person here in America. The rich are REALLY rich, like ridiculously rich, but the avg person has to work so hard for very much less than we make here. HK actually seems to be on the decline since it was returned to China; it really seems like China is actively trying to move the financial center to ShangHai.
HK has declined in recent years, no thanks to the current 'situation'. Still though, it has not turned out as bad as I would have anticipated. It's still an awe inspiring place to visit. Been a few years, and I need to go back.
The point though, is that we (not just any particular person - I have been guilty myself now and then) have a habit of incorrectly stereotyping cultures, ideals/beliefs - and people.
Anyways, wasn't this soemthing about body kits...?
11-06-01, 11:16 PM
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Originally posted by rotaryextreme
You are wrong about some of the stuff you said:
1. Authentic bodykits use less fiberglass but the hand laid technique is better, so the bodykit is actually stronger and lighter. The copy kits are actually heavier. Much heavier. How do I know? I have the authentic C West bumper, it's so much ligher than my friend's copy GTC bumper.
2. The companies you talked about have most of their bodykits made in the US. Not Taiwan. If they are imported, mostly from China. How do I know? My friend is a bodykit manufacturer and he supplies bodykits to some of those companies you mentioned.
3. The car you see on the VIS website has the fake bodykit. The car is owned by Keith who has his car featured in the Fast and Furious. It's funny that Veilside actually sponsored him even though he had a fake kit to begin with.
4. About the Taiwanese sweat shop, I really do not like that remark you make. Taiwan is not like China which uses underage labor. In my opinion, your remark is not only racist but also irresponsible.
Even though you are on the internet, you should still be responsible for what you are stating. Some people might actually believe you when you pass on false information.
Chuck
You are wrong about some of the stuff you said:
1. Authentic bodykits use less fiberglass but the hand laid technique is better, so the bodykit is actually stronger and lighter. The copy kits are actually heavier. Much heavier. How do I know? I have the authentic C West bumper, it's so much ligher than my friend's copy GTC bumper.
2. The companies you talked about have most of their bodykits made in the US. Not Taiwan. If they are imported, mostly from China. How do I know? My friend is a bodykit manufacturer and he supplies bodykits to some of those companies you mentioned.
3. The car you see on the VIS website has the fake bodykit. The car is owned by Keith who has his car featured in the Fast and Furious. It's funny that Veilside actually sponsored him even though he had a fake kit to begin with.
4. About the Taiwanese sweat shop, I really do not like that remark you make. Taiwan is not like China which uses underage labor. In my opinion, your remark is not only racist but also irresponsible.
Even though you are on the internet, you should still be responsible for what you are stating. Some people might actually believe you when you pass on false information.
Chuck
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11-06-01, 11:18 PM
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Originally posted by rotaryextreme
Just to eduate you guys more. Do you know that some of the Japanese authentic bodykits are made in Taiwan? Bomex has a factory in Taiwan and most of bodykits they export to the US are made in Taiwan. If some 8 year-old Taiwanese kid can make high quality bodykits for Bomex, I cannot imagine what a grown-up in Taiwan can make.
Just to eduate you guys more. Do you know that some of the Japanese authentic bodykits are made in Taiwan? Bomex has a factory in Taiwan and most of bodykits they export to the US are made in Taiwan. If some 8 year-old Taiwanese kid can make high quality bodykits for Bomex, I cannot imagine what a grown-up in Taiwan can make.
11-07-01, 02:54 PM
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I got the Veilside kit for my car a little while before F&F came out. Now, I want a new kit because that's the first thing everyone says about it, "Hey, that's the F&F car". Then, the next question is "Do you have nitrous?". Anyone want to buy my kit, it's already painted black? :p
11-08-01, 01:04 AM
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Randy:
It's well known. It's even in the news. Don't get me wrong. I have friends coming from Mainland China. If you want to start a Taiwan vs China thing, I would recmmend you a website. http://www.taiwankiss.com/ go to the political section and you can express your opinion there. I bet there are lot of people waiting for you.
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It's well known. It's even in the news. Don't get me wrong. I have friends coming from Mainland China. If you want to start a Taiwan vs China thing, I would recmmend you a website. http://www.taiwankiss.com/ go to the political section and you can express your opinion there. I bet there are lot of people waiting for you.
Chuck
Originally posted by Alpine
who said china uses underage labor? please don't tell other not to be racist when you are prejudiced your self.
Randy
who said china uses underage labor? please don't tell other not to be racist when you are prejudiced your self.
Randy
11-08-01, 01:10 AM
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Where is your info coming from? Are you in the bodykit business? BTW, if you think I am a racist, you are so wrong. My grandfather was born in China. I do not think I will be racsit against my own grandpa. Anyways, I was stating a fact, not being racist. If I offend you in anyway. Sorry, that's not my intention.
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Originally posted by Alpine
bomex kits are made in philipine, not taiwan.
bomex kits are made in philipine, not taiwan.
11-08-01, 02:34 AM
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Originally posted by rotaryextreme
You are wrong about some of the stuff you said:
1. Authentic bodykits use less fiberglass but the hand laid technique is better, so the bodykit is actually stronger and lighter. The copy kits are actually heavier. Much heavier. How do I know? I have the authentic C West bumper, it's so much ligher than my friend's copy GTC bumper.
2. The companies you talked about have most of their bodykits made in the US. Not Taiwan. If they are imported, mostly from China. How do I know? My friend is a bodykit manufacturer and he supplies bodykits to some of those companies you mentioned.
3. The car you see on the VIS website has the fake bodykit. The car is owned by Keith who has his car featured in the Fast and Furious. It's funny that Veilside actually sponsored him even though he had a fake kit to begin with.
4. About the Taiwanese sweat shop, I really do not like that remark you make. Taiwan is not like China which uses underage labor. In my opinion, your remark is not only racist but also irresponsible.
Even though you are on the internet, you should still be responsible for what you are stating. Some people might actually believe you when you pass on false information.
Chuck
You are wrong about some of the stuff you said:
1. Authentic bodykits use less fiberglass but the hand laid technique is better, so the bodykit is actually stronger and lighter. The copy kits are actually heavier. Much heavier. How do I know? I have the authentic C West bumper, it's so much ligher than my friend's copy GTC bumper.
2. The companies you talked about have most of their bodykits made in the US. Not Taiwan. If they are imported, mostly from China. How do I know? My friend is a bodykit manufacturer and he supplies bodykits to some of those companies you mentioned.
3. The car you see on the VIS website has the fake bodykit. The car is owned by Keith who has his car featured in the Fast and Furious. It's funny that Veilside actually sponsored him even though he had a fake kit to begin with.
4. About the Taiwanese sweat shop, I really do not like that remark you make. Taiwan is not like China which uses underage labor. In my opinion, your remark is not only racist but also irresponsible.
Even though you are on the internet, you should still be responsible for what you are stating. Some people might actually believe you when you pass on false information.
Chuck
I could be mistaken on that particular silver "Veilside" FD, but I was using it to illustrate a point that usually these US companies do not use pictures of their copies of real bodykits. Instead, they just steal real pictures and put their name on it. Go check their websites if you wish.
Authentic bodykits generally use more glass and less epoxy resin. The production techniques are obviously better in the authentic kits. They are lighter with more glass because they use less epoxy, which is what can weight to a piece.
You can label the sweatshop comment however you like. If you think I'm racist then that's your business. I can't convince you otherwise or possibly comprehend how that could be a racist statement. If somehow you read it as such, please attempt to re-read it in a different light. I did not say (this is in a biggot tone to illustrate) "It's those damn Taiwanese 4 year olds purposely making cheap *** bodykits and putting them on the American consumer at unbeatable prices." No, my friend, I'm an economist and I'm very aware of labor situations in developing nations and Tiger economies and the western view of exploitation of these economies, where, in fact, most of the time these "sweat shops" provide higher wages than any other opportunity in the region. I'm so baffled that you could consider that a racist remark that I'm not even sure how to respond. I sure hope this isn't rooted in your own personal issues and desire to cause conflict because that's sad.
11-08-01, 04:17 AM
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If you think I misunderstood you, obviously, I am not the only one. What's your definition of a SWEAT SHOP? It just sounds very negative to me and I don't like it at all. If you do not mind other people use that term on you, I would not mind at all. BTW, what does your comment have to do with my personal issue and conflicts? I just do not like to see people who do not really know what's going on make all those comments out of their imagination. If you tried to give out an example, make sure your example is legit. Otherwise, how will it be convincing anyway? If you make a mistake, at least say sorry. Acting tough is not doing you any good and gaining you any respect.
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Originally posted by DK
Some are made in the US, some are made in Taiwan. I know places that make them in the US, and I also know several "manufacturers" in the US who had to wait months and months for kits to arrive from Taiwan to meet demand from the Fast and the Furious. How do I know? Because I tried to sell some kits through a distributor to try to make some money to replace over $8000 in parts stolen from my car by a shop and I got caught in the middle of it. These in particular come from Taiwan and China.
I could be mistaken on that particular silver "Veilside" FD, but I was using it to illustrate a point that usually these US companies do not use pictures of their copies of real bodykits. Instead, they just steal real pictures and put their name on it. Go check their websites if you wish.
Authentic bodykits generally use more glass and less epoxy resin. The production techniques are obviously better in the authentic kits. They are lighter with more glass because they use less epoxy, which is what can weight to a piece.
You can label the sweatshop comment however you like. If you think I'm racist then that's your business. I can't convince you otherwise or possibly comprehend how that could be a racist statement. If somehow you read it as such, please attempt to re-read it in a different light. I did not say (this is in a biggot tone to illustrate) "It's those damn Taiwanese 4 year olds purposely making cheap *** bodykits and putting them on the American consumer at unbeatable prices." No, my friend, I'm an economist and I'm very aware of labor situations in developing nations and Tiger economies and the western view of exploitation of these economies, where, in fact, most of the time these "sweat shops" provide higher wages than any other opportunity in the region. I'm so baffled that you could consider that a racist remark that I'm not even sure how to respond. I sure hope this isn't rooted in your own personal issues and desire to cause conflict because that's sad.
Some are made in the US, some are made in Taiwan. I know places that make them in the US, and I also know several "manufacturers" in the US who had to wait months and months for kits to arrive from Taiwan to meet demand from the Fast and the Furious. How do I know? Because I tried to sell some kits through a distributor to try to make some money to replace over $8000 in parts stolen from my car by a shop and I got caught in the middle of it. These in particular come from Taiwan and China.
I could be mistaken on that particular silver "Veilside" FD, but I was using it to illustrate a point that usually these US companies do not use pictures of their copies of real bodykits. Instead, they just steal real pictures and put their name on it. Go check their websites if you wish.
Authentic bodykits generally use more glass and less epoxy resin. The production techniques are obviously better in the authentic kits. They are lighter with more glass because they use less epoxy, which is what can weight to a piece.
You can label the sweatshop comment however you like. If you think I'm racist then that's your business. I can't convince you otherwise or possibly comprehend how that could be a racist statement. If somehow you read it as such, please attempt to re-read it in a different light. I did not say (this is in a biggot tone to illustrate) "It's those damn Taiwanese 4 year olds purposely making cheap *** bodykits and putting them on the American consumer at unbeatable prices." No, my friend, I'm an economist and I'm very aware of labor situations in developing nations and Tiger economies and the western view of exploitation of these economies, where, in fact, most of the time these "sweat shops" provide higher wages than any other opportunity in the region. I'm so baffled that you could consider that a racist remark that I'm not even sure how to respond. I sure hope this isn't rooted in your own personal issues and desire to cause conflict because that's sad.
11-08-01, 04:55 AM
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In your opinion, those copy kits are crappy, low quality, etc. You also stated that you will never put those garbage on your own car. But you also said you tried to sell those crappy kits to others to make a few quick bucks to recover your stolen money. So what distinquishes between you and the shop that stole your money? What distinquises between you and those crappy bodykit sellers? You are in the same business as them, ripping people off. Why are you slapping your own face like this? Does it have to do with any of your personal issues or conflicts? I hope some of the people you sold the bodykits to are reading your comments. Unlike you, everything I offer to people, I put it on my own car to show my faith in my products. You are selling people stuff that you will never put on your car. Your ethic is very questionalble. Why should we listen to you anyways? Don't use your economist title to fool me. Your job is to analyze economy, not selling bodykits or anything else. What school did you graduate from anyways? Is that what they taught you in school?
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Originally posted by DK
Some are made in the US, some are made in Taiwan. I know places that make them in the US, and I also know several "manufacturers" in the US who had to wait months and months for kits to arrive from Taiwan to meet demand from the Fast and the Furious. How do I know? Because I tried to sell some kits through a distributor to try to make some money to replace over $8000 in parts stolen from my car by a shop and I got caught in the middle of it. These in particular come from Taiwan and China.
I could be mistaken on that particular silver "Veilside" FD, but I was using it to illustrate a point that usually these US companies do not use pictures of their copies of real bodykits. Instead, they just steal real pictures and put their name on it. Go check their websites if you wish.
Authentic bodykits generally use more glass and less epoxy resin. The production techniques are obviously better in the authentic kits. They are lighter with more glass because they use less epoxy, which is what can weight to a piece.
You can label the sweatshop comment however you like. If you think I'm racist then that's your business. I can't convince you otherwise or possibly comprehend how that could be a racist statement. If somehow you read it as such, please attempt to re-read it in a different light. I did not say (this is in a biggot tone to illustrate) "It's those damn Taiwanese 4 year olds purposely making cheap *** bodykits and putting them on the American consumer at unbeatable prices." No, my friend, I'm an economist and I'm very aware of labor situations in developing nations and Tiger economies and the western view of exploitation of these economies, where, in fact, most of the time these "sweat shops" provide higher wages than any other opportunity in the region. I'm so baffled that you could consider that a racist remark that I'm not even sure how to respond. I sure hope this isn't rooted in your own personal issues and desire to cause conflict because that's sad.
Some are made in the US, some are made in Taiwan. I know places that make them in the US, and I also know several "manufacturers" in the US who had to wait months and months for kits to arrive from Taiwan to meet demand from the Fast and the Furious. How do I know? Because I tried to sell some kits through a distributor to try to make some money to replace over $8000 in parts stolen from my car by a shop and I got caught in the middle of it. These in particular come from Taiwan and China.
I could be mistaken on that particular silver "Veilside" FD, but I was using it to illustrate a point that usually these US companies do not use pictures of their copies of real bodykits. Instead, they just steal real pictures and put their name on it. Go check their websites if you wish.
Authentic bodykits generally use more glass and less epoxy resin. The production techniques are obviously better in the authentic kits. They are lighter with more glass because they use less epoxy, which is what can weight to a piece.
You can label the sweatshop comment however you like. If you think I'm racist then that's your business. I can't convince you otherwise or possibly comprehend how that could be a racist statement. If somehow you read it as such, please attempt to re-read it in a different light. I did not say (this is in a biggot tone to illustrate) "It's those damn Taiwanese 4 year olds purposely making cheap *** bodykits and putting them on the American consumer at unbeatable prices." No, my friend, I'm an economist and I'm very aware of labor situations in developing nations and Tiger economies and the western view of exploitation of these economies, where, in fact, most of the time these "sweat shops" provide higher wages than any other opportunity in the region. I'm so baffled that you could consider that a racist remark that I'm not even sure how to respond. I sure hope this isn't rooted in your own personal issues and desire to cause conflict because that's sad.
11-10-01, 11:30 AM
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forum sucks sometimes 
why don't you ask your 'friend' that's in the bodykit business where BOMEX made their kit, talking out of my imagination???
wtf is your point 'rotaryextreme'? that you have a friend that sells rice kits? that rice kits are better made? or wat dude?????
why don't you ask your 'friend' that's in the bodykit business where BOMEX made their kit, talking out of my imagination???
wtf is your point 'rotaryextreme'? that you have a friend that sells rice kits? that rice kits are better made? or wat dude?????
11-11-01, 03:11 AM
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What the hell is your problem? Did I say anything about bodykits my friend makes? Are you reading the wrong **** or on drug? I told you I am sorry if I offended you in anyway. My last posts are for DK, not you. so what the hell is wrong with you? You want to get personal or something?
Chuck
Chuck
Originally posted by Alpine
forum sucks sometimes
why don't you ask your 'friend' that's in the bodykit business where BOMEX made their kit, talking out of my imagination???
wtf is your point 'rotaryextreme'? that you have a friend that sells rice kits? that rice kits are better made? or wat dude?????
forum sucks sometimes
why don't you ask your 'friend' that's in the bodykit business where BOMEX made their kit, talking out of my imagination???
wtf is your point 'rotaryextreme'? that you have a friend that sells rice kits? that rice kits are better made? or wat dude?????
11-11-01, 03:31 AM
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Just to get the record straight. How the f*ck do I know some of the Bomex bodykits are made in Taiwan. I went with my friend to the factory that makes bodykit for Bomex in Taiwan to see if they would sell the bodykits directly to us and they said no, we had to go through Bomex. Have you been to the Bomex factory in Philippine? Is it possible that Bomex has different factories at different locations? Are you telling me that all their kits are made in Philippine? I asked you how did you know about it, not to doubt you but to learn more info. What's wrong with that? If you want to get hostile, that's fine with me, but don't quote stuff that I never said.
Chuck
Chuck
Originally posted by Alpine
forum sucks sometimes
why don't you ask your 'friend' that's in the bodykit business where BOMEX made their kit, talking out of my imagination???
wtf is your point 'rotaryextreme'? that you have a friend that sells rice kits? that rice kits are better made? or wat dude?????
forum sucks sometimes
why don't you ask your 'friend' that's in the bodykit business where BOMEX made their kit, talking out of my imagination???
wtf is your point 'rotaryextreme'? that you have a friend that sells rice kits? that rice kits are better made? or wat dude?????
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