777rx777

My stock intercooler is leaking real bad at the seems between the plastic and the fins. its time for a replacement.

I have an hks dp and blitz cb exhaust. everything under the hood is stock with the exception of a petit ast.

If I get a Greedy FMIC, what else will I need to make the car reliable? Will the stock ecu be ok? Please let me know. Can I use my stock intake with a greddy fmic?

Let me know the best way to do this (for the money). THis car is my daily driver and I depend on it everyday, please help

Nameless

If nothing else u can pick up a stock IC for $50 easily.

shawnk

I have a stock one in my garage... I'll sell it for $50 plus shipping - paypal. Let me know.

Shawn

pomanferrari

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I know how you can fix your IC. Get ten tubes of JB Weld

Seriously, though, I have two of the stock ICs. I'll sell you one for $40 plus shipping (about $10.00 to Calif.). May be you can buy both, and have someone weld them side by side

adam c

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If you are going to replace the intercooler with an aftermarket one, now is the time. I have heard good things about the Blitz SMIC. It fits with everything. I ordered one last week. Tough to find a used one. You can get a new one for around $850.

I think all of the others require moving the battery, the stock air box or both.

Adam

TomsRX7

So far, in my opinion, no one has given you good advice. If it's your daily driver and you live in San Diego, you should be going with the M2 Performance stock mount intercooler. Look them up at www.m2performance.com. The only time you need to go front mount is when you are going to be drag racing. Reason being is that the front mount reduces the amount of air to the radiator and when you drive in CA, that's the last thing you want to do.

-Tom

777rx777

Will the blitz smic bolt right up with out having to move the battery or change out the stock intake? Will it be ok to run the blitz smic, dp, and exhaust. Will I need an ecu? thanks for your help.

ttb

depends on how much boost you are running. from what i understand as long as you are not going over 10psi you are okay with stock ecu. not sure how good the blitz smic is. i know one guy, zerobanger, that has one and i remember he wasn't too happy with it...try pm'ing him.

Chaz

A friend of mine has the Blitz SMIC and really likes it. His name on the forum is Mahjik so feel free to PM him for this thoughts/comments. It's a direct replace for the stock IC and bolts right up without having to relocate anything. I really like the M2 medium SMIC as well but I believe the back order list is pretty long right now. I've also found the M2 to be a lot more expensive than the Blitz. Try checking out the RX-7 store pricing on both units (www.rx7store.net). I believe Jason will become the sole distributer for the M2 in the near future if that hasn't happened already. Hope this helps some.

adam c

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TomsRX7,

Sorry about my bad advice. I shouldn't want him to even consider a reasonably priced intercooler that will fit nicely in the stock location. It would be a bad thing for him to get something that doesn't require him to spend more money on other modifications and do even more work to fix his "daily driver" car.

My Bad!!

13brv3

A+ for sarcasm Adam

Please do let us know when you install yours. I've been looking for the same thing, a SMIC that will install easily without moving anything. Where did you order yours?

Thanks,
Rusty

777rx777

Im kinda confused, will the blitz smic bolt right up without having to change out the stock intake? Will I feel an increase in power?

Thanks for all of your help (everyone) I think Im going to order a blitz smic.

Im also thinking of ordering an M2 ecu which is set up for 13lbs of boost, dp, cb, intercooler, intake. Does this sound like a "reliable" thing to do?

I will run the blitz smic, apex intake, blitz cb, hks dp, m2 ecu. sound reliable for daily driver?

thanks again

Chaz

The aftermarket ECU is probably a good idea too. With the apex intake and the exhaust mods you've listed you may see boost closer to 12 psi so having the extra fuel will be necessary. For a daily driver you may want to consider some kind of boost controller as well so you can restrict your boost to the stock 10 psi for that daily commute.

Let us know how you like the Blitz SMIC. I think it will fit your needs for a decent price. Should be a simple bolt in that doesn't require you to move anything else. It's direct replacement. As far as feeling a power increase, I'm not sure you'll notice anything more than maybe your boost coming on a little faster that it did before.

Good luck!

KevinK2

The Blitz smic will drop in with stock intake and crossover duct .. no mod's req'd. The only other pure drop in is an alum version of stock that M2 sells/sold from mazdacomp. Blitz smic is oem quality.

Intercooler comparos, including smaller ones, at cirian site (see links at newbies ..)

http://www.scuderiaciriani.com/rx7/i...olers.html#ICP

If u keep close to stock boost, ok adding blitz smic.

If kicking it up with M2 ecu, blitz still much better than stock, but also other new/used options with intake mods.

adam c

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The Blitz has about twice the capacity of the stock intercooler, with better flow. It is significantly thicker. It should also allow much higher boost than the stock intercooler because of it's construction. I expect to be able to boost to 14 psi easily, with no ill effects.

Adam

TomsRX7

I'm sorry to see that SOME of the members have decided to be smart asses in regards to MY experience and recomendation, especially ADAM C. When all you guys go out and buy the Blitz stock mount, 2 years from now when you've "little by little" modded the car (intake, exhaust, computer, etc, etc) and time comes that the little Blitz stock mount isn't enough, then you will respect what your elders told you.....I'm YEARS ahead of you guys.

Trust me, when I bought my FD, I thought "ahh, I'm not going to mod it that much cuz I want to keep it as a daily driver". But there is ALWAYS something new you want and before you know it, 2 years have passed along with several thousand $'s later. You'll be a local to rx7store.net

So should you:
A)Buy the Blitz now, and then later on buy the M2 stock mount or some other front mount?(that means you bought an intercooler TWICE)
-or-
B)Just buy the right one now?

If anyone cares to challenge my point of view on this, take some time to educate yourself and search the forum. How many guys have an almost all-stock car? Close to NONE!!! And how many have intake, exhaust, computer, intercooler, etc, etc? Almost everyone!!

Case closed, good night.

Not mad at ya'all, just skoolin ya

jr

It might be too late for this but Mazdatrix sells a strap (http://mazdatrix.com/d2.htm) for the stock intercooler that is supposed to allow you to run higher boost without the risk of splitting the IC (sounds like you already did). Obviously this won't help in decreasing the charge temps any, but if your looking for a cheap fix until you get an upgraded IC it might be worth a look.

13brv3

How about if I order the M2 now, along with one of the others. In about two years, when the M2 finally arrives, I can sell the other one

Sorry, just not having any luck getting M2 stuff at the moment. I wanted a DP, but backordered. Wanted an intake, but backordered. I do believe M2 makes some good products, just not enough of them.

Cheers,

RX7Elmo

Just FYI, the GReddy FMIC needs a non-stock intake. I believe the only ones that fit are modified petit, GReddy, and modified Apex-I. I don't believe ANY FMIC kit can use the stock intake. THe GReddy FMIC needs a relocation battery kit or a MUCH smaller battery (less than 3" in width). ALso..from the earlier reply..i didn't realize the blitz FMIC was only $800 new?

In any case, i suggest you consider what your future plans on and work from there. My suggestion would be just to purchase a used IC to drive your car around now, and consider your options more.

Danny

adam c

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Well, I guess that TomsRX7 experience is the only one that counts for anything. No one else knows anything, or has any right to their own opinion................."case closed".

I guess the people at Blitz should discontinue making the SMIC for this car because it isn't really what TomsRX7 thinks we should have. I thought I knew what I wanted. Seems like a lot of people thought they knew what they wanted too. How could so many be so foolish.

I wish my 21 years of owning & SCCA racing of Rx7s could compete with the self proclaimed "experience" of TomsRX7.

I'm so schooled

wonder1and

Well my $.02 is think ahead and look at what you want your car to do... and also where you live. I live in dallas and have a heavily modded 93 w/ a Apex FMIC and that thing makes cooling much harder than it looks during the summer... besides the point I have a nice stock IC sitting in my garage looking for a good home. Also I used to have full exhaust, intake, ecu, and SMIC (greddy). I was beating WS6 T/A's w/ just that. Remember when you start modding your car on the stock ecu you will start to get fuel cut which is not good for your engine so within the first few mods plan on getting a reprogrammed one.
Ryker

jspecracer7

The Blitz SMIC is JUNK. That small piece of crap...the only good thing about it is that it has aluminum endtanks. Go ahead and spend the money on a good SMIC...

13brv3

I haven't seen too many people mention the PFS SMIC. Why is that? It looks about as big as the M2, comes with everything you need, fits with the stock battery and airbox (though the cross-over duct will need some work), and has a place for the AST. Of course at $1299 for the kit, it's almost as expensive as an M2 too. Anyway, it looks perfect to me, and it was IN STOCK, so I ordered one

Now the real question is whether I can get into the SMIC snob society with my PFS

Cheers,

Kevin T. Wyum

Couple of clarifications to make from some of the posts in this thread.

A. What was previously known as the M2 Medium and Large SMIC's ARE NO LONGER AVAILABLE THROUGH M2. They are currently only available through Jason at the RX7 Store. Any issues with any fit problems people had previously will be dealt with and one of which is already changed on the first batch of 10 mediums.

As for delays in getting them that should now be a thing of the past. Jason has a healthy size order of mediums coming in over the next two weeks and there should be no back order issues again since he intends to keep a stock of them.

As for the PFS IC being about the same size it's not even really close in actual core size and in fact if memory serves is less efficient per cubic inch even if it were the same size. They are two different products. The PFS is easier to install and costs a couple hundred less so it's not really apples to apples. They both really have a different target audience.

Kevin T. Wyum

rxrotary2_7

im sorry....who are you? i have seen a few of your posts and i am starting to wonder who this self proclaimed hall-of-famer is? not that some of your accomplishments were not good...but why the ego? are YOUR opinions facts? just want to know what kind of guy i am dealing with here because i must have missed the thread anouncing the arivial of the all mighty.

You did? honestly? you,.. with all your experience thought of it as a good daily driver? ...no back up plan for when stuff goes bad? hmmm...interesting. if everyone takes your advice, they will not need to buy any parts ever again in the future? i am not understanding this at ALL. if this guy goes with a M2 IC, he will not be "a local" to any store? this doesnt compute in my brain. maybe you just worded it wrong?
i do agree with you. you should always buy the right stuff first. but ya know what...people take steps. not leaps. if we wanted to be MORE of a help, we should ask what his goals are for the car. seeing that he wants to drive it (it is his daily driver) and wants to do it for the best money...my suguestion would be a compromise. why not get a used stock one for now, and save up the extra money to get the IC that best suits your needs. that seems logical to me. but maybe i am just a
please define your definition of "almost stock". as far as i can tell, the majority of the cars on the forum and that frequent this section ARE "almost stock". my car is not near stock, but the mods you listed i would consider to be "almost" stock.

not so fast.
thanks for the lesson teacher. i had an apple to bring you for your desk, but i got hungry on the bus.