Marshall

Rule of thumb: With the prices of FDs these days, if you have to finance the majority of it, you're really not in the financial position to own and maintain it.

JLee

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I do, I used to like those things when I was like 7, back in the late 80s. But anyways seriously man listen to all these guys, we're not talking crap and trying to drive you away from what you want but we're giving you the best advice that you could ever get. If you really want to smoke civics and what not, you have plenty of choices out there other than the FD, what about an old turbo MR2? Please think about what you're going to do before you make a bad mistake and end up hurting yourself or even worse someone else.

SuperColt

well tomorrow my mom goes to to drop off the check witch iam think i might not have her do and other cars of course ive been thinking of a nother car but iam not goin spend over 15gs for a 4 cyclnder man when this rx7 up the street ill put it this way i dont like the old body styles too and there no good 6 cyclinders out plus we have a spare car that we use only when needed its a 98 bmw but that thing slow as anything..so befor i go tell my moms no not to get the car he what ive pick up from u all....the car is light and easy to lose control/ cost alot of cash and if was not propley owned in the past it might have some hard core problems also iam 16 and have no drving exp under my belt so iam capable of getting in a crash high then old timers <--no offense--> but here my idea if i get the car tomorrow i was goin go take it to fredick .md were rammy said then if its ok i was goin put a blowoff vavle then i was goin talk to rammy a lil 1 on 1 and see ifi could meet up with him and see if he could show me how to properly handle this car becuase iam not cocky at all iam scared and i dont wanna crash the car i just got now if u still think i shouldnt get it then maybe i shouldnt but hurry and post what u think after all this i wrote <--sory about the run on stentece school cant teach for s*it anymore...

cptpain

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dude you got your whole life to own an FD, wait a couple years to get some experience....use the money ur getting to get like a 240 then somewhere down the road when you want more power get an sr20det sawp, shoot for 15g's i can find a good condition unmolested 240 and build up an sr motor than can have 500hp and still have a few grand left for aero parts and interior stuff...all in all dont buy it....you will be happier in the long run..i sure am i got the money to buy an FD myself outright but i dont have the space to work on it when something goes wrong....like we all said buy an mr2 turbo, 240sx, or an earlier 7....seriously....

FDNewbie

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SuperColt, I'd hands down say get a '91 - '95 MR2. I'd say get the NA, but you'll prob opt for the turbo lol. Still a lot of power in inexperienced hands, but the car's a HELL of a lot safer than an FD. And I LOVE the body styling. I'll be picking one up soon

Heck, if you want, I know a local low mileage one that needs a bit of work (I'd take it, and just do a JDM swap on it). You'll spend less than $10K start to finish, INCLUDING the car, and still have a pretty fast MR2

As for your mom writing the check, PLEASE stop and LISTEN. ONCE THAT CHECK LEAVES YOUR MOM'S HAND, AND IS IN THE HAND OF THE DEALER, YOU ARE SCREWED. You cannot complain about the motor being shot, or the turbos being bad blah blah, cuz the car isn't under warranty. You have to get the car checked out by Ray @ PFS BEFOREyou pay man. If not, you're playing w/ fire.

If the dealership is honest, they should have NO problem w/ you taking the car to a different mechanic and getting it checked out. I've done it EACH and EVERY time I've bought a used car. If they don't want you to do so, they're hiding something, plain and simple. You just make sure you don't wreck the car driving it to PFS, b/c then you're buying a totalled car

Also, you need to make an appointment w/ Ray...he's a very busy guy. He's got like 12 FD's at his shop now. You need to call ahead, and see when he can fit you in. There's a LOT more than just money that goes into buying a GOOD car. Really. And again, before you even take the car to Ray, read the stuff I linked you to before: http://rx7.voodoobox.net/infofaq/bguide3g/bguide3g.html and check ALL those items out first. If the car fails those tests, there's no reason to take the car to Ray...don't waste your time.

I hope that clarifies things better for ya. I can but give you advice, and I REALLY hope you listen to it...

~Ramy

SuperColt

[B]alrite i just told my mom forget it i dont want the car for reason of it ight be a pos and have problems so i guess ill talk to u guys some time in the furture when i own some type of mazda so i think iam gonna go cry a lil and maybe look for a new car

FDNewbie

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Although you may not like it, honestly, you made the RIGHT choice. The safest and wisest choice.

~Ramy

dgeesaman

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Did you get a quote for insurance on any of these cars?

I think you had better get a handle on that before your mom drops off any checks, anywhere.

Dave

JLee

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For some reason I think this guy is probably going to get the car, but not say anything about so we don't jump on his case. To each their own, I just don't want to see another wreck FD So let's hope he's telling the truth.

Addict

Really? I think he sounded sincere (well, what little I could make out before I gave up reading those posts without any semblence of sentences). I'm amazed that he listened/changed his mind though. I didn't think that would happen. Sounds like if he chooses one of the cars that was recommended he'll have a good time, save some money, and step up to a faster car that he can afford/handle (if that is even where he wants to put the money in a few years... maybe his priorities will have changed).

astrozombie1138

I don't think he got the car. I went and checked it out about a week ago. It looks pretty good. I drove by there today and it was still there. It wasn't on their front line any more but was moved around to the side.

FDNewbie

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Dave, I'm guessing only the first part was directed toward me? If so, I've been w/ Progressive for a few years now, so they take care of me. I pay $1200 for full coverage on 3 cars every 6 months, w/ 50/100/50 limits, rental and towing reimbursement, etc etc. That's pretty darn good IMO. A '98 Maxima, my '84 FB (high performance LOL), and my '94 FD (also high performance). My FD is the highest one, and it's in the $400some range every 6 months. So yea, an MR2 shouldn't be much different than my FB or FD...if not in between the two.

~Ramy

dgeesaman

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No, it was a question for Superbolt. At age 16, any car that's not FWD could be potentially crazy for insurance.

Dave

FDNewbie

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Davo...you quoted me You're slipping, Mr. Moderator Man

SuperColt

na dude iam talk to my brother and stuff and we just had a death in the familly last night so i put 5 more down on the car for him to put it in the back so i o about 7 more gs but i think ill be fine with the car if there problems with it ill fix it but iam read alot of these post bye diff people and iam not goin take jugement because iam young and u think iam not resonable and the guys who r scared of the car getting hurt wow i think it good be fix as long as there people who work on them but i decide to get the car in a few weeks if i feel like i cant handle it and its too much ill sell it but as of now i think ill be alright i read all the post and all the links and y head still hurts with all the info but yeah dude if u call and ask jason the guy who owns the place he should say it was sold but he hasnt let us take it home yet and if u still dont belive me ask him if the beltrans have put money on it hell say yeah but yeah that how i pretty much feel

Tenacious

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Your in for one ******* hell of a financial ride...I bought my car almost 2 years ago, I paid it off in 3 months....now I'm still paying off the repair bills.....speaking of which I have another 800$ bill for insurance due on Feb 15.....I also daily drive my car.....but its maybe 10-15miles a day.....make sure you change your oil every 2k miles, always make sure your car has enough oil.....NEVER FILL UP on those CHEAP GAS STATIONS....they have shitloads of water in the gas....imo...go to Shell...

Be very, very careful driving that thing....it sounds like alotta HP for your first car. Alot of people total their first car(I did)(which was a toyota camry!),

My cars:

1994 Toyota Camry:totalled after 6 months
1995 Chevy Blazer: I got rear ended by a dump truck, so that one totalled

1992 Jeep Wrangler:Goddamn I miss that car, it was a ******* tank, I Tboned a 68 Mustang who was doing an Illegal U-Turn on a Highway(he went over the curb and into my side of the highway), I totalled his car, and I just had to hammer out my front Bumper...I hit him going 45mph. Then I sold it 6 months ago to pay for my FD

2000 Ford Explorer: Its my daily driver now, and its on its last legs

1993 FD: Biggest money put ever, Its worth it imo, I love my fd, but its extremely expensive, DEFINITELY NOT good for a 1st car.(btw my FD is pristine, I've been paying heavily in restoring it, but its all worth it!)

Go buy a WRX or something, alot more reliable, you will go fast, and its alot better to drive in the rain/snow!

JLee

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I called it, I told you guys that he wasn't going to listen to none of our advices and go get the car. Best of luck to you buddy and I hope that you take care of it or you'll have an angry mob after you :smiley_12

SuperColt

iam lost all of u seem to be in your 20s. and u talk about how much of a financial problem the car is have anyone of uthough about takeing your own post in too mind maybe u should sell your rx7 and go buy a wrx if u cant handle the problems at lest iam willing to take the car and fix it and make it have a good home all ive seen in the past 2 days was how almostall of u whine on how much u have problems. i mean dang y own it and defend it then put it down when someone wants to get one. or is this about me being young and u dont wanna hear about a nother Fd being hurt. i mean helping is one thing but telling me its the biggest money pit and it hard to control it almost sounds like u hate your car i mean iam gonna take in mind that i need to watch out for the handleing problems dont think i havent read the post iam iam glad i know about all the problems that i might and most likey will come in too but hopefully i wont it seems to be clean....

FDNewbie

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I love my FD, make no mistake. But had I known just how HUGE a moneypit it was, I wouldn't have bought it, and I would have bought an MR2, w/o thinking twice.

As for me, I'm so far in debt, that I physically CAN'T sell my car now. I won't get anywhere NEAR what I have into it. I just HAVE to finish it, and find a way to pay for it all. I passed the point of no return LONG ago. I have enough money in my FD to buy a pair of Supras, EASY.

I also spent $2K in the first month I had my FD. That's a LOT more than I expected. $500 of which were the FIRST night I had my FD home. Then another $500 by the end of that week. I VERY quickly took the next $500 and bought a piece of crap '86 Accord, and made it my daily driver. These FDs are simply wayy too unreliable.

As for being safe, I think my FD is a deathtrap. It's not as fast as I'd like it to be, but even now, it accelerates MUCH faster than I can handle, and is always ready to break away and spin on me if I do anything sloppy. So I'm VERY careful w/ it. I play around and do crazy stuff in my current daily driver, an '84 FB (1st gen RX-7). I beat the living crap outta that car, drift around turns, push it past the limits and then some. The FD, well...basically it's got me whipped. Too scared to push it to the limit. You won't be, and you'll make a mistake real quick - one that isn't forgiving. I already told you why...age, lack of experience, inexperience w/ rwd cars, and then with high hp peaky and light rwd cars. The odds are VERY high that you'll make a mistake. And that's all it takes. I just don't want to hear about you in the newspapers, ya know?

That's skipping the fact that so many guys buy the FD, realize how damn expensive it is, drop insurance down to liability, half-*** ghetto-rig their cars, a part fails, they romp on it, lose control, total the car, injure themselves, and are left high and dry. All because they tried to fly when they were having trouble walking. One thing at a time man. One thing at a time.

So it's complex. It's a love/hate relationship w/ FDs, but when you have the money, have the know-how, and have the driving experience, nothing can beat the FD, period. Nothing. So you're 0 for 3. Work your way to it, THEN buy an FD

~Ramy

BANNOR

Dibs on the BNR's

BANNOR

Just kidding

21K95RX7

dibs on the bnr's (im not kidding) supercolt can i have dem wheels thaid look fly on my six fo' when i cruisin' wit mah homiez. if your parents have the money, change the wheels young one

dgeesaman

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We still own ours because it's a disease.

Sorta, but if your wreck is an ugly one, you could die. We'd rather that you drive a slightly more practical car for a few years, save your pennies, and when your finances and driving experience have built up, then you will enjoy a car like this much more. I waited several years until I had enough spare cash each month and a garage to work in, etc. I'm really glad I did, and probably should have waited a little longer.

Dave

Herblenny

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Well, this quote itself shows me that you are very young.. What 16-17??

I've seen this kind of post many many times on the forum before. But as always, young teens who get on the forum asking about if they should buy an FD or what they should do, always try to beat the learning curve the hard way.

Trust us old farts. FD's aren't good for 1st time drivers. Go buy something cheap and reliable. If you depend on FD's to go back and forth from school to home or go out and night to race your 4 cylinder friends, I say you'll be just asking for trouble and in the long run, you'll be like most teens that I bought there cars from... You'll be selling it or wrecking it in less than a year. I'm sure you're not going to listen to any of us.. So, good luck and prove us wrong!

Herblenny

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I agree with Dave!

Even though FD's are cheap as new civics out there, they are untamed animals. Which means, you need time, money, and willingness to learn and work on them to truely be an enthusiast. Otherwise, you are nothing but show off poser.