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Old 01-23-03, 02:07 PM
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Originally posted by laujesse2
What turbine? That looks like a SR20DE not a DET. If it is an NA engine with a big *** turbo(or any turbo for that matter) it wont last long.
It is an SR20DET (sandblasted top) motor and the turbine ______ is a big shaft p-trim turbine ______with a .58 a/r tangential turbine_______.
BTW, why would it not last? Just because you may not have the skills to tune a motor does not mean we don't.

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Did you start dynoing at 3400 rpm?

If not, it look like nothing until 3400 rpm when the boost jumped up.

Have fun ... that took a lot of work.
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Originally posted by pomanferrari
Did you start dynoing at 3400 rpm?

If not, it look like nothing until 3400 rpm when the boost jumped up.

Have fun ... that took a lot of work.
That is where it starts to sample...

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Old 01-23-03, 03:28 PM
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did I just see, what I think I saw.
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Nice install, Good power...I like
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well done, i hope it is to your liking
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Originally posted by laujesse2
What turbine? That looks like a SR20DE not a DET. If it is an NA engine with a big *** turbo(or any turbo for that matter) it wont last long.

Isn't the sr20DE a FWD motor?

Plus this has been going on for a while and everyone knows its a DET, I dont' think someone would swap out a 13B-REW for a sr20de.
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The final setup looks really good, I will let you know the next time I come to tally and maybe you can show it off.

-Todd
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Some NA SR20s have the same internals as their turbo counterparts. This engine however I believe is a factory turbocharged unit, but upgraded of course.

SR20 are FWD setup commanly in north america.
We have the 240sx in North America; in Japan they have the Silvia, which is a 240sx with an SR20DET engine.
That's why the SR20DET -> 240sx swap is so popular here, because it's 100% bolt in.
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Originally posted by 240Z TwinTurbo


It is an SR20DET (sandblasted top) motor and the turbine ______ is a big shaft p-trim turbine ______with a .58 a/r tangential turbine_______.
BTW, why would it not last? Just because you may not have the skills to tune a motor does not mean we don't.
Are you being sarcastic, or just a dick? It is a nicely done swap. Congrats, I am not sure what you meant by your statement to Laujesse2 but I assume you are not trying to sound like an ***, it just came out that way. About your long block, my bad. I was focusing on the bone stock part insead of the long block. You are almost to the breaking point of the SR20DET transmission, 400hp and you can start counting the days till it breaks.

Scott
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Originally posted by 240Z TwinTurbo


It is an SR20DET (sandblasted top) motor and the turbine ______ is a big shaft p-trim turbine ______with a .58 a/r tangential turbine_______.
BTW, why would it not last? Just because you may not have the skills to tune a motor does not mean we don't.

To everyone:

The SR20DE has a silver valve cover like the one on his car. (no, they are not all FWD over here) and we even have a FWD based 4wd Turbo version.

The RWD SR20DE is the same externaly as the RWD DET except for the color of the valve cover and diferent oil pan ect.

INTERNALLY the SR20DE has higher compresion, and no oil sprayers... So if you put a turbo on it BOOM!


To 240z: Nice person attack for no reason at the end , for this we now move on to my 2nd favorite sport. Congrats, on having too much time on your hands and shoving a blunt object sideways up the FD's rear. You can have 400hp when you are done an then you will get stompt by every 350rwhp FD. I have to admit what you did requires talent but you keep saying that it is cheap, c'mon, how many resources were used and how much time and money did you spend mounting it and making that manifold and attaching the the knick knacks. If you and your associates spent that all that time working at McDonalds and pooled your money you would have enough to buy a full tuned FD that would be faster and tuned correctly just as religable. On a positive note, those headlights are BEAUTIFUL. It is obivious you and your associates are very talented but with great power comes great responcibility, come back from the dark side...
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Originally posted by tnt
Here is the dyno sheet you have to shift the rpm over a bit but anyway, like 240 said bone stock 93 pump gas and 17psi still a little rich up top needs some fine tunign just am tired and want to go home the motor is 65 lbs lighter than the rotary (engine&tranny) plus i took out the a/c and power steering..

Shaun
i have a hard time believing that the rotary is heavier then the sr20det, unless the tranny in teh sr20 det weights 20 lbs and breaks at 20 rwhp
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Originally posted by 240Z TwinTurbo


It is an SR20DET (sandblasted top) motor and the turbine ______ is a big shaft p-trim turbine ______with a .58 a/r tangential turbine_______.
BTW, why would it not last? Just because you may not have the skills to tune a motor does not mean we don't.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Did you bleep out you turbine numbers? I was distracted by your 4 year old like " NanaNananaNA " coments that I didnt knotice that you have chosen to keep the turbine secret!!!!!!

Everyone stay tuned maybe later he will post his top secret turbine #'s. Please! Please! Tell us how did you get 350hp out of an engine that in Japan 1 out of every 4 assh*oles with a sylvia or 180 gets over 400. Please! tell us Please!!



I wonder what it would dyno with Power stering and AC If there were a snowballs chance of them fitting?

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i have a hard time believing that the rotary is heavier then the sr20det, unless the tranny in teh sr20 det weights 20 lbs and breaks at 20 rwhp

Weird but true, the block is alum. -Jesse
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First off the car is mine and had 350hp rotary in it before it was pulled.... 240 is sarcastic as am I, it is meant in good fun you guys always preach about doing a search, well there are two other threads about this swap that would have told you in the first post that it is a det.... the problem is that some of you guys not all but some are flamers that originally said this is stupid it won't match the power of 13b yaada yaada now that it is and it is a stock motor some of you are talking out of your asses again saying well it must be heavier or whatever bs... we take pride in what we do at this shop and you can choose to believe this if you want but after I sold all of my rotary stuff that I put into this car I am still ahead (money wise) after I have completed... you are right I and 240 have spent endless hours working on this project but that is what I love to do build cars for my customers and build cars for myself... so you can turn this into a flame war if you want but we just posted #'s so that people who were interested could see where we are at.... what I like to think that building cars like this is about, are 1: to expirament and have fun.... I wonder how many people told Mazda that the rotary was a dumb idea, what if they had listened to all of them and then you would not have your beloved 7 and 2: to try and break down barriers and keep things fresh and new, we work on about 10:1 ratio of hondas to any other car and alot of you guys bitch that is all you see in mags and such but on the other hand you see something that is different like this and all you do is try to tear it down and find something wrong with it... There is no such thing as a perfect car all have pros and cons as does this swap....

Sorry to be so long winded... Thanx

Shaun
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looks good.....i guess....rotary powah
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Originally posted by lane_change


Are you being sarcastic, or just a dick? It is a nicely done swap. Congrats, I am not sure what you meant by your statement to Laujesse2 but I assume you are not trying to sound like an ***, it just came out that way. About your long block, my bad. I was focusing on the bone stock part insead of the long block. You are almost to the breaking point of the SR20DET transmission, 400hp and you can start counting the days till it breaks.

Scott
I was being a dick. Here is the problem, you pull #'s out of thin air. For example, 400hp limit on the transmission? No mr. I can't stay in my lane, the old school Z trannies as I used to use and friends of mine use have held well over 425@wheels with no problems. The silvia tranny can be made to fit on the old school Z front bellhousing and this is a popular swap. Why you ask? Because the Silvia tranny is alot stronger than the old school Z tranny that is already known to hold to 500hp! It is folks like you spitting misinformation to people that causes everyone to be f'd up in their knowledge.
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Originally posted by laujesse2


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Did you bleep out you turbine numbers? I was distracted by your 4 year old like " NanaNananaNA " coments that I didnt knotice that you have chosen to keep the turbine secret!!!!!!

Everyone stay tuned maybe later he will post his top secret turbine #'s. Please! Please! Tell us how did you get 350hp out of an engine that in Japan 1 out of every 4 assh*oles with a sylvia or 180 gets over 400. Please! tell us Please!!

I wonder what it would dyno with Power stering and AC If there were a snowballs chance of them fitting?
You and lane changer must be brothers. You seem to be as ignorant as he is. Here is what I posted:
<It is an SR20DET (sandblasted top) motor and the turbine ______ is a big shaft p-trim turbine ______with a .58 a/r tangential turbine_______. >

Let me pull out my crayons. Sandblasted top is a joke, but means it is silver because we sandblasted it and it is bare metal. Top Secret, I will save the comment I wanted to make. I told you it was a big shaft p-trim and I told you it was a .58 a/r tangential. Oh, did I forget to fill in the blanks with the top secret information? Sorry! Here we go...crayons out everyone...

It is an SR20DET (sandblasted top) motor and the turbine ______ is a big shaft p-trim turbine WHEEL with a .58 a/r tangential turbine HOUSING.

The secret is out now, the turbo has a turbine wheel and turbine housing. Please, nobody with a turbo use these things as this was my secret to making a turbo work.
BTW, you two guys need to quite posting. You are giving all the smart RX7 guys a bad name.

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Old 01-24-03, 11:15 AM
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Aside from the normal arguments about numbers and ******* bickering about what is better in here....

I think the swap is very well done, and would like to compliment all who played a part in making it work. I think people that try new things and expirement are usually the people who pave the way for the future. Keep up the awesome work... Now build that damn motor and turn up the boost!

Thank you for contributing something different to the forum.
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I pull numbers from people I know blowing **** up.

This was posted by Dragon:
1Bad180sx is now making somewhere in the neighborhood of 400 hp and he found the breaking point of the SR transmission when he sheared off the input shaft (uh hmmm.. are you listening SR13Madness) during some practice runs before the race started..

So I am not just making **** up. I have heard numerous times that 400hp or so is around the breaking point. If you feel otherwise that's fine. I was just voicing my opinion. So either people on here have to kiss your *** to have you be polite or if they can voice they're own opinion and you decide to attack them. How old are you, 12? Grow up. I said you did a good swap, all I mentioned was that you soundeed like a dick in your post to Laujesse2 for him, oh my god, thinking it might have been an SR20DE instead of a DET. Which you agreed that was what you were going for, you want to be a dick, admit it. So as far as I am concerned your swap looks good and I had better learn to just agree with you or you will bash me some more on the internet?
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How old are you, 12? Grow up.

Yep 12 years old...nananananan
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tnt- It is obvious that you are the brains of the operation, congrats the car looks great. Not where I would take it, but you did a nice job on it. Also thank you for helping your friend with the "disability".

240 single turbo- It is great that you went back and are studing for your G.E.D. and in the process learned to type. That takes alot of courage. However the next obvious step is for you learn to form cohearent sentences. We are all now dumber and less mature for hearing everything you have said throught this thread.
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Good job man.
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how much does a short block sr20det weight?


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