I know it wasn't me because I don't use gray sealant on the front cover and oil pan.

B

 

I would have said "I know its not me because I always put the bolts on the front stat gear."

Good thing you're at least sure about the sealant Brian.

 

were all human and everyone makes mistakes, that doesnt mean you wait for someone else to have the same problem you have so you feel better. and this thread is making people argue.lol

 

Bingo!

and Bingo!

Exactly! we've got them here doing the same thing.

I tend to agree with the fact that if you have no solid proof that X shop is responsible putting a name out there is stupid. Who knows what happened to that engine or if that engine was truly built by that shop. It's just hearsay.

 

I am more interested in how they responded when you gave them the chance to make things right. Every builder who does a volume of business has the opportunity to screw up and eventually will. This mistake seems pretty rediculous but maybe they learned their wife was cheating on them that day, or their kid contracted cancer, and really weren't paying any attention whatsoever. More likely, they let an apprentice do the assembly unsupervised. Who knows? Big mistake, small mistake...whatever. The mark of a good shop is that they are prepared to discuss the problem, accept that it is possible they made a mistake and offer to take care of it if that proves to be the case. There is still a lot of room for he-said-she-said stuff, but something like this seems pretty cut-and-dry. If they refuse to accept blame and can't give a reasonable explanation, then I think it is fair to say who it is. If they want to inspect it first, that's their perogative under most warrantees, but it's pretty hard to explain those missing bolts.

 

I agree with Blake.. If you contacted the shop and they turn their heads and not take responsibility of this incompetent job... then let us know who it is and we'll stay the **** away and kill their business

 

The problem is most shops wont warranty a motor that has changed hands. They are going to argue the same points that have been made in this thread.

 

me too!

got you beat though, ive got a 12a i built in 1998 thats still running.

 

If the shop who made the mistake would own up to it and make it right, it would actually improve their image to me. Everyone makes mistakes, but not everyone will stand up for their work.

 

Jonathan wants to post and answer some of these questions but he can't log in. Maybe he's suspended or banned. Can anyone (admin) let us know for sure?

 

I looked at his account and everything looks normal. What does it say when he tries to log in?

 

This is exactly the reason why we started building webpages for every customer 4-5 years ago. It is time consuming, but as they say, "A picture is worth a thousand words" .

 

That's a great idea, nice job!

 

if only u guys werent so far away!!!

 

People ship stuff every day.

 

lmao

 

haha why not, right?

when i get a DD in a month or so ill look into it.

 

We have a car in the shop right now from North Hills, CA, that we are rebuilding and shipping back.



The more I thought about this "mishap" the more disgusted I got. Leaving those 6 bolts out is just incredible. We lay out all the components for the build on carts and benches (as I figured most builders would), at the end on the build there are not any parts left over. Those six bolts cannot be mistaken for any other bolt on the engine. The builder should have seen the extra hardware and known immediately where they belong. I do not care if "his wife is cheating on him" this is inexcuseable.

 

That's exactly what I was thinking. Something like this:

 

So you have never had a problem with any of the motors you have built? Pinched coolant seals? Nothing?
Yes it was a dumb mistake, but if this was done by a shop that does a lot of builds then **** will happen.

 

After thinking about how many miles a motor would last in that condition, it probably wouldnt run at all. Any time you push the clutch in the trigger wheel would lose contact with the CAS and shut the car off.

 

thank you for your help Jason I'm back online!???

well to answer this post I'll tell you I bought the car from a guy 1200mi, flew there drove the car back home and then drove it for another 1500mi around town before it let go....

 

No problem. I just sent you a PM about your log in. Just ignore that.

 

Stepping on the clutch, with the pull style clutch in the FD, would pull the trigger wheel back toward the sensors



Leaving parts out of an engine is incompetence, not a mistake. It does not matter how many engines a company builds, you have a procedure. The more engines you build the less any mistakes should happen. A first time DIY builder might leave these bolts out as a mistake, however "one of the most well known rotary company's in the USA" should know how to assemble a shortblock without leaving any parts out, if not then they should not be building engines.

It is called Quality Control.

 

IMO i disagree, do it right, and do it once. as long as you take your time when its done there shouldnt be any problems.
Alot of the big engine builders do have mistakes here and there but the fact that there getting your money & your service. so they should be making sure you get there moneys worth. if not then there robbing your business

I had the same problem with a engine builder in canada (wont say either) on a half bridge, the motor was with used parts, the car lasted 2 weeks after the tune.