raiden

At the first dealership I just went to see two of their Lincoln Continetals 62 and 65. Now this sales person comes up to me starts talking...bla bla bla.. I ask him if they have any rx7s he says wait and runs inside comes out tells me no. And tells me they are so old and rusted. Yet he wanted me to walk out with the 62 Continetal which was pretty rusted i may add. Then he runs indside to talk to someone abt rx7 comes out says...so you are stuck on rotary eh. I'm like yeah I like them. This is where he points me to a GTI Volkswagen tells me its got an rotary. I'm like wtf...show me... then he says its a v8 rotary. i'm like NO! I know a rotary when i see one... his face goes red and he walks away...i walk off the lot laughing....

Now at the second dealership I went to see a 94 Rx7. This guy comes out telling me how hes an expert on rx-7s...He atleast knew what he was talking about. but one thing i didn't understand was...he said the following had to be cut out because that is the only way you can work on a RX-7...

both sides are cut on the car and pached with some sort of black stuff.

The other thing he said he did was take out the screws in the truck (three screws each side) to do some work.

I don't know if I can trust him. He seemed shady.

What do you guys think about the picture and the situation?

Brian_93

The front clip was replaced by cutting around the strut towers , its know to be done for a quick easy fix, but if not done right you will have alignment problems, that car was surley in a front end wreck

raiden

you know what you may be right because out of nowhere he said most rx7 are hit from the front. hmmm....

FDNewbie

iTrader: (10)

Pretty much... The car was in a pretty bad front end collision that obviously couldn't be repaired by just putting the car on a frame machine. I'm thinking they swapped the front clip too. There's nothing that you HAVE to cut to work on an RX7 lol. Manufacturers to take into account maintenance work when designing car and access to it's various components Sometimes the amount of access you have is questionable, but it's always still DOABLE, w/o cutting or modifying the actual chassis of the car!

What/where was this stealership btw?

Wing0

As i look at that picture...mine looks just like that, and you guys say its due to a front end collision. The thing is when i purchased the car and did a CarFax there was no report of an accident; if i would have known i wouldnt have bought the car.

FDNewbie

iTrader: (10)

Is your car silver by any chance? Because the factory welds on the silver FDs I've seen looks pretty bad to the point that it always throws me off. Practically looks like repair weld-work. Def not as noticeable in a black FD (like mine). It's not supposed to look like the pic above, that's for sure.

raiden

Atleast one of us learnt the lesson easy way...thx for the input guys..

turbojeff

iTrader: (30)

The pic is too close up to tell. The seam sealer doesn't look factory, the little cloth cover over the bolt hole does look factory.

Do you have any shots of the engine compartment as a hole?

FDNewbie, are you saying the factory welds silver FDs differently?

Sickass7

think he's saying that the factory welds stand out alot more when they're painted silver instead of black, which I would agree with.

Sickass7

Doubt they would weld cars differently based on color lol.

Sickass7

would like to see a pic of the vee dub gti V8 rotary lmfao

FDNewbie

iTrader: (10)

Absolutely not. That's your area of expertise... I have no idea. But I highly doubt they would do such a thing.

Sickass7 was right...I just meant that they stand out a LOT more on silver FDs. Practically looks like a sloppy weld job if you ask me. Dunno WHY it would differ based on the car color, but it sure does.

raiden

He wouldn't let me take VIN or engine bay pics. He didn't see me take these cuz he walked behind the car to show me the trunk area which he said he took 6 screws off to work on it

SpeedKing

iTrader: (4)

The only 6 screws I can think of offhand in the trunk area are the ones you remove to take off the tail lights. What kind of work did the car need in the back?

books

iTrader: (8)

"he said the following had to be cut out because that is the only way you can work on a RX-7" .... sounds like BS...if you want to play games ask him what work was performed that requires the cut out....ask him for repair history or any receipts....the fact that he does not want you to take pics or is candid about the vin makes the car suspect...carfax does not show up evey accident...I believe they do not have info from all states

spekdah

i got the same thing in my bay ( although not as obvious) around the strut towers there is like a pasty soft stuff, kinda patchy, but I got a VIN report when I purchased the car and there was no sign of any accident.
So when you say the front clip was replaced do you mean the front part of the chasis from the towers forward?
Oh man that sucks!!

live2drive15

iTrader: (4)

I dunno if this helps but that's what a stock tower looks like in my MB FD. Could be a stock weld job but it's really hard to tell.

DaleClark

iTrader: (55)

Here's a pic of my driver's side strut tower. It's a lot less "lumpy" along the weld. I know for a fact my car has never been in a "hard" collision.

Dale

rx7guy1

Sounds like a schister to me. I'd walk.

WHIPSrx7

Yeah...walk. Also, carfax doesn't show accidents that aren't reported. If you don't go through your insurance agency, carfax won't have any records of it. For example, if I hit a mailbox and it's $300 to fix my car...I will just take it to a body shop and pay for it. Even bad accidents can be worked around insurance. But he does sound shady, especially because of that whole VIN thing.

respecttheseven

full of crap. ive built plenty of FD's. all these guys are right, he replaced the front clip. no pics of the vin cause he doesnt want u scannin it to see if it is salvaged or not. like he could get around it when u went to sign the papers. stay away from that car.

spekdah

WOW!
Thats adzactly how mine looks! is it kinda soft? maybe it is the factory weld jobafterall . mine is a MB FD as well and it looks identical to that.

Recentlyconverted

Carfax will only report on what they get police reports on. If it was in an accident and never reported (the person somehow got the car out of there and paid for the repairs themselves, carfax will never know about it. I thought my R1 was in pristine condition, but I took it in to get detailed, and the guy at the shop started lookin close at the car and picked up on slightly off paint and looked the car over. It looked like my car was repaired well (no alignment problems) but had been in a severe front/passenger side collision. I checked carfax before I got this car and they reported that the car had never been in an accident. Oh well, the car still looks hot.

raiden

I'm walking away. Just found out car is not local. Its from cali, and this shop is known for hacking cars from states that they buy for dirt cheap. Didn't really trust him to start with. When we walked in he came running out and after talking to him for like 20 mins he said he's not a sales person he owns the place...lol... I donno why he came out if he didn't wanna sell it. it sux when you can't even trust these people. And the first dealership guy tried to tell me VW GTI was a Rotary aswell and when i asked him to open the hood it was a 2.0...lol.

Everyone is out to get everyone else...lol someone find me a good 95 rex...i'll pay you $100CAD finders fee via paypal.

turbojeff

iTrader: (30)

Guys all FDs should have the soft stuff around the joints, it is called *seam sealer* and is used on pretty much all mass produced cars on the seams.

The original pic showed seam sealer that appears to not be factory. The factory seam sealer is pretty smooth, no brush marks, etc.

The wierd thing to me is that the little cloth cover is over a hole, those cloth covers were put on at the factory then painted over. It is also sort of a weird place to replace the front clip...