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Old 04-26-04, 03:42 PM
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oh, im just going to run a new hardline from the Master Cylinder all the way to the slave
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I think the one i have is long enough to do that....It's 20in.....What the benifit to doing that? Would there be any difference?
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I wouldn't run a hard line all the way through. The tranny moves. That is why there is a flexible line in between.
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Just get a braided line to replace the rubber one.
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I got the braded one already just got the hardline from Master to hose
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Quick probley stupid question, there is a third box between the automation ECU and the Small Black box in very back(dont know the name).Do i still need it, or is it just for the automatic?
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Alright nevermind look in the automatic section of the manual...dont need it.
Last question about wireing frist all connection needed to be made i can do from the wires that used to go to the Automatic transmission, correct? and as far as the sensors on the manual transmission are the wire colors the same? Ex: in the wire diagram the netual swich is Brown and light green, so there will be a brown and light green wire some place on one of the auto transmission Harnesses.
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i dont think the actual sensors have the same color....
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Ok i guess the only thing to do is to cut and run new wires from the ECU. Unless anyone knows what wires to connect to the manual sensors from the automatic harness to save me a cupple hours and a trip to the store to buy wire.
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You don't need to run any wires to hook up the needed sensors. The speed sensor has the same plug so it plugs right in.

You already know to hook pins 8 & 9 together on the inhibitor switch connector ( page k-28 in the big green service manual) to get the car to start.

To hook up the reverse lights use pins 2 & 7, I beleive they are black and red.

I just cut the wires for the inhibitor switch off @ the auto tranny that gave me enough length to hook everything up. You only need the four wires in the fat harness.
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Thank You
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OK I took a picture of inhibitor switch, and labled the wires. Think i got it down except for a few sensors.



8+9 Connect=power
2+7 Connect to reverse sensor on Tranny=Reverse light
?+? =Netural
?+?=1-2 switch
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Ugh, all this seems confusing. I need to have a shop install mine but it's all so expensive. The cheapest place I found was ASI for 3k minimum. Average is like 5k. Ouch, so much pain...

(Just needed to gripe, ignore post)
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Originally posted by GSXR0383
OK I took a picture of inhibitor switch, and labled the wires. Think i got it down except for a few sensors.



8+9 Connect=power
2+7 Connect to reverse sensor on Tranny=Reverse light
?+? =Netural
?+?=1-2 switch
I didn't hook up the neutral or the 1-2 switch so I can't be help there.
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Originally posted by GSXR0383
OK I took a picture of inhibitor switch, and labled the wires. Think i got it down except for a few sensors.



8+9 Connect=power
2+7 Connect to reverse sensor on Tranny=Reverse light
?+? =Netural
?+?=1-2 switch
I didn't hook up the neutral or the 1-2 switch so I can't help there.

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Originally posted by GSXR0383
OK I took a picture of inhibitor switch, and labled the wires. Think i got it down except for a few sensors.



8+9 Connect=power
2+7 Connect to reverse sensor on Tranny=Reverse light
?+? =Netural
?+?=1-2 switch
nice picture man
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Originally posted by Elegant Black Monster
Ugh, all this seems confusing. I need to have a shop install mine but it's all so expensive. The cheapest place I found was ASI for 3k minimum. Average is like 5k. Ouch, so much pain...

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Ill do it for considerably cheaper
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Originally posted by ejmack1
nice picture man
Remember the wires are a different color on the tranny side of the connector.
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And yes that is a great picture, it should be alot of help to many swappers for years to come.
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Originally posted by Elegant Black Monster
Ugh, all this seems confusing. I need to have a shop install mine but it's all so expensive. The cheapest place I found was ASI for 3k minimum. Average is like 5k. Ouch, so much pain...

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Is that just for labor?
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Originally posted by BRADYMAHONEY
Is that just for labor?
1500 in parts
1500 in labor maybe

approximate?
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Alright almost done other then the netural and 1-2 switch.
I have a question about the propeller shaft, in the manual it says to mark it when u take it off so you can put back on correctly, well my manual propeller shaft and differential dont have any marks, does it matter how i put it on? If so how can i tell which way.

And if anyone knows the wires for the netural and 1-2 switch please let know.

The pic was the engine side of the harness, not the tranny.

Reverse lights work and car has power.

BTW anything elise i should take pictures of since im down there. would of taken pics of the whole opperation but i had no help and was too damn dirty to use the camera.
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Alright almost done other then the netural and 1-2 switch.
I have a question about the propeller shaft, in the manual it says to mark it when u take it off so you can put back on correctly, well my manual propeller shaft and differential dont have any marks, does it matter how i put it on? If so how can i tell which way.

And if anyone knows the wires for the netural and 1-2 switch please let know.

The pic was the engine side of the harness, not the tranny.

Reverse lights work and car has power.

BTW anything elise i should take pictures of since im down there. would of taken pics of the whole opperation but i had no help and was too damn dirty to use the camera.
Take pictures of the underside, the clutch slave and master, the starter, the bolts on the PPF... the drive shaft

lol

Dont worry about the propeller shaft, i think they balanced it from the factory and just want to make sure you put it on the same way, but you are using new equipment (new to your car anyway) so it really wont matter.
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Originally posted by GSXR0383
Alright almost done other then the netural and 1-2 switch.
I have a question about the propeller shaft, in the manual it says to mark it when u take it off so you can put back on correctly, well my manual propeller shaft and differential dont have any marks, does it matter how i put it on? If so how can i tell which way.

And if anyone knows the wires for the netural and 1-2 switch please let know.

The pic was the engine side of the harness, not the tranny.

Reverse lights work and car has power.

BTW anything elise i should take pictures of since im down there. would of taken pics of the whole opperation but i had no help and was too damn dirty to use the camera.
Take pictures of the underside, the clutch slave and master, the starter, the bolts on the PPF... the drive shaft

lol

Dont worry about the propeller shaft, i think they balanced it from the factory and just want to make sure you put it on the same way, but you are using new equipment (new to your car anyway) so it really wont matter.
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Ok made a quick site with some pics, Anything elise u want to see, or a better pic of something let me know soon.
http://www.hotzoneusa.com/New_Folder/new_page

Im going to make a better page as soon as im done.

LOL, netural and 1-2 switch anyone?


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