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Old 01-09-04, 04:31 PM
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So how many people have done the Auto -> Manual Swap

Trying to make this a worth whiel post with all the documentation of people that have done it. If you need anything hosted to be archived let me know.

Please post:

Was it worth it?
When did you do it?
Approximate Cost?
Web Site "how to" or any documentation you made or used or any tips you have?

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Old 01-09-04, 04:33 PM
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Yes

Summer of '01

~$800 (after selling off parts)

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Well I am still in the process of gathering parts. So I don't have any tips on the install yet. But here is where I am at so far.

New parts (stock parts from Malloy)
94 clutch master $70.92
clutch master gasket $1.08
clutch slave $66.96
clutch release Fork $68.04
hard lines 2 @ $7.20
pilot bearing seal $1.56
shift boot $70.68
shifter bushing $3.36
Total for stock parts $297.00 shipped @ no extra charge.

Other new parts.
ACT prolight chromoly flywheel with auto counter balance(which I found out later I didn't need) $375.00 shipped, E-bay
ACT Extreme clutch kit. $530.00 shipped, E-bay
B&M shifter $159.00 shipped, E-bay
Goodridge stainless clutch line $36.50 shipped, RX-7trix.com
Momo shift **** $ 78.95 shipped, E-bay

Used parts from Rich @ Gotham. Drove 4 1/2 to 5 hours to pick up.
Tranny $400.00
Starter $50.00
Pedals- $100.00 don't forget the brackets for the clutch lines (one on the tranny and one on the firewall) removed from parts car myself.
Drive shaft- $100.00
For a grand total of - $2126.45 so far.

I still need my fliuds and some various nuts and bolts. And a rear diff or just the compantion flange( unless I can make my auto flange work).
And Rich from Gotham racing is going to send me my neutal switch for my tranny which was missing. So make sure the tranny you are looking @ has all the little sensors and hole covers ect...

What else might I need? Thanks,

Brady Mahoney

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Was it worth it......... Totally. Now by see first hand the differnce from a auto to manual. Hands down the car was meant to be a manual.

I did my conversion about June 03

My costs on the auto to manual conversion!
This is what i spent on parts

*Tranny - $555 its a 95 with 33,000 miles and 90 day warranty
*driveshaft - $97
*4.1 diff rear end - $255
*93 5 speed ECU - $60
*Guage cluster,brake and clutch pedal,master and slave cylinder,hard pipe - $250
*New ACT Street/strip clutch and 9.5lbs flywheel- $900
*Mazdatrix short shifter - $218

Total parts =$2335

There is also bolts ,rear main seal and o ring, inner boot for shifter
And i have to supply diff fluid and tranny fluid,brake fluid

I ended up paying $1000 for labor

Total cost is around $3500
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Where did you find that tranny?
Which inner boot are you talking about? I probably still need that.
Do you know which bolts you have to come up with? I know I will have to find the ones that bolt the clutch to the flywheel.
I will be doing the labor myself so I can save that $1000.00

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Thanks for starting this thread. I hope it turns out really informative.
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Hey BradyMahoney... if you could take some pics of the install process. specifically removal of the auto tranny, if you haven't already done so, and the installation of the manual tranny

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I found the trany at www.car-part.com they have everything.

I had the mechanic pick up the inner boot, since i didn't know about it. Not sure what it looks like,but
www.mazdatrix.com has it cheap.

The bolts that hold the tranny on with the automatic are to short. You'll need manual bolts to mate with the manual tranny.
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Originally posted by ejmack1
Hey BradyMahoney... if you could take some pics of the install process. specifically removal of the auto tranny, if you haven't already done so, and the installation of the manual tranny

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I will do that, I will have my brother there helping with the install. So he can hold the camera.
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ever get any pics?
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It is funny that you post now. I am in the process of jacking up the car right now (just taking a break). I am working on a dirt floor. man is it a bitch to use a jack in the dirt. The jack can't roll so it pull the car in the direction you are jacking. So I can only jack it up a little bit at a time. Do you have an e-mail address I can send the pics to. I suck @ posting them.
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And I have been fighting my floor jack. I bought one of those jack with flames on it off E-bay. It is a POS Do not buy one. The spring under it bent and popped off and it has fluid squirting out all over the place. And this is the first time I have used it. Luckily I have another one or I would be SOL.
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damn, I was in Oklahoma a few weeks ago


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I finally finished a couple of hours ago. I got a couple of pics when I first started, but after that I was sooo stressed out I just hoped I could actually finish the project.

Still need help getting the cruise control to work.

Anyone else getting ready to do this. Make sure you have the tranny bolts handy. They are a pain in the butt to find ( at least they were around here). You need four 10M 1.25 pitch 55mm lenth, and one 10M 1.25 pitch 90mm lenth.
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thats some good info i forgot about that
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I got mine done early this year. It cost me alittle over $5,000. But I'm very happy with it.
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You could have flown me out there and I would have done it for free... hahaha I used to live in South Sac and still have family out there, so that would have been good enough!
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And don't forget the U shaped clips that hold the flexible clutch line to the brackets. They are the same as the clips used on the brake lines. None of the local auto parts stores carry them.

I also cut my B & M shifter off a little more than 1/2 inches. The Momo ball fits right in the palm of my hand with my arm resting flat on the console.
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If you use the auto harness, you have to connect pins 8 & 9 (to each other) on the inhibitor switch harness to get the car to start. I just cut them and used a 12 guage connector to crimp them together.

Pins 2 & 7 hook up to the reverse switch.

And I am going to test this theory, I think you need pin 4 for DRIVE hooked up to pin 7 ( which is just a common ground ) in order for the cruise to work.
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Well, my theory for cruise did not work.
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Ok, I figured it out. You cut the blue/white wire @ pin G on the Cruise control ECU connector.
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The only two links you need to do a swap,

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...auto+to+manual

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...06#post2569106

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Those two links and this thread.
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All right I'm about to do a Auto to Manual swap on a 93 Rx-7. I've got the parts on the way. I just want to know if I have everything I need.

Transmission
Driveshaft
Rear End
ECU
Clutch
Flywheel
Clutch Lines
Master and Slave Cylinder
Shifter
Clutch Pedal

I know I need bolts for the transmission, Clips for the clutch lines, Gauges (can I still use my automatic ones temporally? I've heard the speed is off, if so does anyone know by how much?)

So far this is what I have coming. If there are any parts I done not have listed please let me know including any bolt, gaskets, clips,ect.

In my search for information i came across this site
today:
http://beyondtheredline.fd3s.net/owners_5spd.html

It talks about about how the manual transmission has a different bolt pattern and something needs to be fabricated so the transmission will bolt up. Ive read pretty much everything I could find and this is the first ive heard of this.

Any information, suggestions, or comments from someone that has personally done this swap before, would be very helpful. Thanks
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The manual tranny will bolt right up you just need some longer bolts. I have the sizes listed above.

You need the 2 brackets ( one for the firewall and one that bolts to the tranny) and the clips for the clutch lines.

As far as the speed being different, if it is it is not by very much. I can't see any difference in my car.

Don't forget the starter the auto and manual are way different.

And the clutch kits don't come with the pilot bearing seal, but you need that too.

And depending on what kind of clutch/pressure plate you got. You will need the bolts and lock washers to bolt the pressure plate to the flywheel.

If you didn't get a lightweight flywheel that uses the auto counter balance. You will need a 2 1/8 inch socket and a BADASS impact wrench. A cheap one will NOT work.

And don't forget the diff and tranny fluids. I went with Redline. The cheapest place I found was from summit.

My post above should have just about everything listed.

Good luck.
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you guys did the conversion youself, or took it to a shop
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