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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 03:48 PM
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Should I buy a spare engine?

As some of you may know I've recently bought a FD RX7. It's in ok condition. Afaik there are only 2 other FDs in my country 1 is an absolute lemon, other one belongs to a guy who I became friends with now. The guy (my friend) is selling his engine and gearbox for something like $2000 cause he's doing a 2jz supra engine conversion and needs to pay for the parts arriving this week. He gave me the dibs but if I don't buy it this week, he'll sell it to a FC owner who's interested.

He reckons his engine is in average condition, one of his turbos is ok and other one is bad and his gearbox is so so. He'll probably give me his engine mounts, midpipe etc with the deal.

Money is a little tight at the moment cause I just bought the car, paid purchase taxes, insurance, bought a whole heap of parts from forum vendors etc. but my other friend says I'd be stupid not to buy it, but i'm not sure cause what if his setup is not in good condition then would I'd just be buying junk? But again my other friend thinks it'd be well worth it in the long run even if I could only use some of the parts from that package. Kind of like taking two average engines and gearboxes and making one good one (of course with additional brand new parts).

What do you guys think? I have to decide by Thursday and let the him know
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 04:01 PM
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id give him 900 bucks you can get a whole motor and tranny here for 1200 shipped
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by rx7rcer09
id give him 900 bucks you can get a whole motor and tranny here for 1200 shipped
Don't compare it to the prices in US. Prices of things in general are much much higher here, and it's almost impossible to import one from there and even if it wasn't it'd end up costing me three times more once the goods are landed with all the taxes and shipping etc.
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 04:22 PM
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If you have the money and can confirm the engine is good; go for it. However, if you cannot confirm the engine is good, you do run the risk of buying an expensive paper weight.
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 04:34 PM
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As long as it doesn't have a blown rotor it won't be an expensive paper weight. It may still have some good housings and irons. That will make your eventual rebuild cheaper. Plus it's always nice to have a spare engine with all sorts of little crap on it in case you need a bolt, a harness plug, or anything like that.

I would buy it, but talk him down. Tell him it's just a parts motor and should be priced as such. It would be stupid to drop this motor into your car as-is.
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Mahjik
If you have the money and can confirm the engine is good; go for it. However, if you cannot confirm the engine is good, you do run the risk of buying an expensive paper weight.
I cannot confirm if the engine is good. The owner says it's good. But even if it's perfect I can't fit it to my car so I want to buy it for spares because:

- It's a very difficult process to do a conversion because recently they made it more strict with old cars, old engines etc. I probably cannot use that engine in my car because of the engine number and not being able to have the car registered.
- Turkey is away from the US so I cannot get parts whenever I want etc. so I was thinking this engine and gearbox can help me with parts just like I borrowed it's starter motor today but I'm not sure whatelse may come handy in the long run? Rotors? Gears? Manifolds? Solenoids? Sensors?

So eitherway if something goes wrong with my engine it'll need a rebuild.
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by arghx
As long as it doesn't have a blown rotor it won't be an expensive paper weight. It may still have some good housings and irons. That will make your eventual rebuild cheaper. Plus it's always nice to have a spare engine with all sorts of little crap on it in case you need a bolt, a harness plug, or anything like that.

I would buy it, but talk him down. Tell him it's just a parts motor and should be priced as such. It would be stupid to drop this motor into your car as-is.
That's exactly what I was thinking. Although I don't know the exact condition of the engine I'm pretty sure it doesn't have a blown rotor. The guy will give me anything that he doesn't need with the engine and gearbox, like his ecu, engine mounts, midpipe (i will have to confirm), cat, o2 sensor etc. so there is a bit of added value there I guess

My plan is to go single turbo but hypotethically speaking if I decided to buy something like a pair of BNR turbos I wouldn't have to take my car off the road for core exchange
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 04:59 PM
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Too bad you can't drive it before you buy.I was able to do this when I bought my spare motor and transmission.I have just replaced seals,the rest of the motor being in excellent shape.It is really comforting to have a builtup spare motor on the shelf.Go for it!
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by arghx
As long as it doesn't have a blown rotor it won't be an expensive paper weight. It may still have some good housings and irons. That will make your eventual rebuild cheaper.
Parts from a blown/damaged engine are only as useful as what the individual can do with them.
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 06:16 PM
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If money is tight, I probably wouldn't bother. Especially since your car and motor are low mileage.
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 06:24 PM
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Seems like you have made your decision already and just need conformation it's a good idea. I think in your situation it's a pretty good idea. If you are planning to go single, you can always build the motor on the side while driving your car then just swap the motors when you’re ready.
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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by rx7rcer09
id give him 900 bucks you can get a whole motor and tranny here for 1200 shipped
Where?
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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 05:43 PM
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Ray Crowe has no problem shipping a brand new engine to Turkey, last time I checked they were around $3800. And these are NEW, down to the last bolt.

I wouldn't bother.
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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
Ray Crowe has no problem shipping a brand new engine to Turkey, last time I checked they were around $3800. And these are NEW, down to the last bolt.

I wouldn't bother.
Too late, I just bought the engine, gearbox, engine mounts, intercooler, and probably whatever spares the owner has (midpipe, ecu, injectors etc.) today.

I bought a whole heap of parts from Ray and I'll buy more in the future and $3800 sounds like a good price but once shipping and our taxes are included I bet you it won't cost any less then $5000-6000 for a reman. I rather rebuild and port my engine.

Btw, I like your car and it is the style that I'm going for, stockish with wheels and same for the engine, gt35r or 500r kit. if 99 spec bumper costs too much to get here then i'll go for feed type II.
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 03:18 PM
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I want a spare engine and tranny for $1200! hmmm wait A second, for that price does it come with internals? or are we talking about another kind of car?? I would be very very skeptical of anyone selling a motor and tranny for that price, don't like my hands getting burnt.
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Old Dec 6, 2009 | 09:25 AM
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I really have to feel for you guys living in countries where parts are even harder to come by than in the U.S. or Japan. I guess at least in some cases you had the JDM/Australian cars available, so that could give you a few more years of possibilities.
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Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
Ray Crowe has no problem shipping a brand new engine to Turkey, last time I checked they were around $3800. And these are NEW, down to the last bolt.

I wouldn't bother.
When was the last time you checked? Don't most of the rebuilders charge about that much? I think Mazdatrix has a rebuilt one with all new parts for like 7k.

http://www.mazdatrix.com/getprice.as...m=MZTX-TT-1F00

$3800 for a new engine sounds like a steal. I hope you're right.
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
Ray Crowe has no problem shipping a brand new engine to Turkey, last time I checked they were around $3800. And these are NEW, down to the last bolt.

I wouldn't bother.
Originally Posted by adamrs80
When was the last time you checked? Don't most of the rebuilders charge about that much? I think Mazdatrix has a rebuilt one with all new parts for like 7k.

http://www.mazdatrix.com/getprice.as...m=MZTX-TT-1F00

$3800 for a new engine sounds like a steal. I hope you're right.
Is anyone else able to verify this? May have to call Ray as I'm now pricing my options to get up and running again.
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got any pics of your ride and parts too?
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 01:11 AM
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I posted some on the other thread:

https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generation-specific-1993-2002-16/whats-wrong-should-i-buy-rx7-872644/

but i'll post better ones soon.
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by MrNizzles
got any pics of your ride and parts too?
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...12#post9683512
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