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Old Nov 11, 2020 | 07:53 AM
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Should I buy a FD or a Polaris Xp Turbo 4 seater

Well in the last month or so I decided to sell my crappy cars only keeping my Rx3 as a project car since I’m doing it right and making a 3 Rotor NA the right way ( so it will take me couple more years &#128529 I just sold my GSLSE and my wife said no more crappy cars get a decent car or something new . Nothing new interest me and only thing I keep going back and forth on is a FD stock thinking a RHD since I like the little Seats in the back and RHD would be different . Or a New Polaris XP turbo that going to try and get street legal to have fun in Florida off roads and streets . They both are same price well around the 20’s . I’ve always wanted a FD love them but before everyone always told me only fun is to raise the HP , but I want to enjoy street And car meets and drive all around smoothly . I’ve enjoyed all my previous older Rotaries but wife don’t like none unless is a FD .
The Polaris RZR I can have so much fun and if I’m able to make it street legal wow it would be a fun ride for the kids and me . But not sure if the FD is a better choice since it will hold its value and is going to be a keeper just like the Rx3 . I’ve sold about 40 cars since I’ve owned the Rx3 and I can’t continue buying and trying to enjoy a car to keep as a Daily while I finish my Rx3 so decided to make this my last year buying stupid cars and buy 1 and calls it a day . So if anyone can help and tell me if it is a FD.
what should I look for when a buy a FD.
I will upgrade the Radiator , suspension , exhaust cuz is a do it once kinda deal .
really appreciate it I have a few months to decide . I’m doing all my landscaping around my pool. Cutting trees down . Doing some extra work around the house that wife wants remodels again . So I don’t hear her complain for a few more years 😂.
20 years married so I know the deal . She happy in our home I’m happy in my garage 👍🏼


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Old Nov 11, 2020 | 09:58 AM
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Knowing nothing about you other than this, I say get the RZR. A good friend of mine has one and they are insanely fun. I think the FD would just turn into another project despite your intentions so get the RZR and let the Rx3 be your only project. And I don't know if it's true or not but my friend tells me these RZRs are holding their value really well.
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Old Nov 11, 2020 | 10:13 AM
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sounds like you spend too much money on unfinished "dreamer" projects. Why don't you just pick one thing and do it? If you want a nice, reliable car, get something new (not a nearly 30 year old FD). If you want to finish a 3 rotor project, stop buying random stuff and start working on it. Or if you want to simplify life, clean up your garage and sell stuff.

The answer to your poll is none of the above. Get your life organized.
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Old Nov 11, 2020 | 11:56 AM
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sounds like you spend too much money on unfinished "dreamer" projects. Why don't you just pick one thing and do it? If you want a nice, reliable car, get something new (not a nearly 30 year old FD). If you want to finish a 3 rotor project, stop buying random stuff and start working on it. Or if you want to simplify life, clean up your garage and sell stuff.

The answer to your poll is none of the above. Get your life organized.

dam you are right . I have so Much **** going on is crazy . Rx3 is my ultimate goal but I can’t stop doing everything else and dump money on it like I want . I have sold 3 cars this month and have 1 more project to sell and not getting a single car that involves me wrenching . But doing construction and side jobs is what pays for my toys and parts for my Rx3 . My credit and my house is number 1 then once I’m good and my side jobs pays well I buy parts for my Rx3 . But right now I only have a work truck and is super boring and need something to keep me motivated until I get closer to finishing up the Rx3 . To be honest I can’t work on cars all weekend like I used to I like to enjoy working or family time . During week and slow days I work on my cars. But like I said I just need something to keep me going while my Rx3 is getting worked on
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Old Nov 11, 2020 | 11:59 AM
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Knowing nothing about you other than this, I say get the RZR. A good friend of mine has one and they are insanely fun. I think the FD would just turn into another project despite your intentions so get the RZR and let the Rx3 be your only project. And I don't know if it's true or not but my friend tells me these RZRs are holding their value really well.
yes I’ve seen prevoius models holding value up and living in Florida I’ve seen many dirt tracks around I can have some fun with . Plus I get bored of cars so fast that I don’t want to to make another purchase and sell it . Once my Rx3 is in final stages then I’ll buy everything I need to finish it but for now just buying what I need because I don’t want parts just sitting for years .
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Old Nov 11, 2020 | 11:59 AM
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Old Nov 11, 2020 | 01:25 PM
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If you get either a Polaris or an FD you will just dump money into it and not do the 3 rotor. Soooo... sell the 3 rotor? Don't get an FD? Don't get a Polaris? Just pick 1 thing.

It sounds like you should sell everything but the work truck and get a cheap car that won't break the bank. Cancel the 3 rotor, don't get an FD or a Polaris, just buy an old N/A FC or a Miata or a cheap Rx8 or a E30 BMW or something else like that. Or be happy with your work truck and find another hobby to keep you busy that doesn't cost so much money.
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Old Nov 11, 2020 | 01:32 PM
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The "I just need such and such thing to keep me going while I wait on the 3 rotor project" is the root cause of the problem. It's not keeping you going, it's preventing you from getting the 3 rotor done. Or maybe you really don't want to finish it? Sometimes it's more fun to visualize how great the car would be when it's finished than to put the nose to the grind stone and do the work. I find it very hard to believe that you have literally nothing you can do on your 3 rotor, NOTHING, zero, right now, so you gotta find something to "keep you going." There's probably labor intensive, inexpensive work you could be doing. But if you really wanted to finish it, you'd be working on it instead of posting on rx7club about all the other stuff that has nothing to do with your 3 rotor.

So. Sell the 3 rotor because you're not serious about it. OR
Sell everything else but the 3 rotor and actually work on it
OR sell everything and move on with your life, go in a completely different direction (whether that's an FD or some other thing).
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Old Nov 11, 2020 | 01:39 PM
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Sell everything then use Turo to have a different car every weekend.
100% new experience every time, none of the hassle from ownership.

You can even travel to different places and try different interesting cars ... you can't do that with cars you own.
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Old Nov 11, 2020 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by arghx
The "I just need such and such thing to keep me going while I wait on the 3 rotor project" is the root cause of the problem. It's not keeping you going, it's preventing you from getting the 3 rotor done. Or maybe you really don't want to finish it? Sometimes it's more fun to visualize how great the car would be when it's finished than to put the nose to the grind stone and do the work. I find it very hard to believe that you have literally nothing you can do on your 3 rotor, NOTHING, zero, right now, so you gotta find something to "keep you going." There's probably labor intensive, inexpensive work you could be doing. But if you really wanted to finish it, you'd be working on it instead of posting on rx7club about all the other stuff that has nothing to do with your 3 rotor.

So. Sell the 3 rotor because you're not serious about it. OR
Sell everything else but the 3 rotor and actually work on it
OR sell everything and move on with your life, go in a completely different direction (whether that's an FD or some other thing).
While the message comes off as an ice bucket to the face, I think this is the right mindset. It can be hard for people to accept, but we aren't good multitaskers. And we also are terrible about justifying keeping things around with the sunken cost fallacy.
This scenario just sounds like a bored mind...if you don't know on your own which you want, you're just looking for your next new thing to play with. Why can't that be a part for the Rx3? That's a cool car in itself.

And, I don't suggest either of your options being a daily driver...

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Old Nov 11, 2020 | 04:08 PM
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I hate to say it, but I agree with those guys. From my perspective, you keep buying and selling cars because you’re bored and don’t want to finish the RX3. Who’s to say you won’t finish the RX3 and sell it because you got bored with it “super fast”? While I did vote FD, I’d like to rescind that vote and vote for you to take some time and think about what you really want. I don’t believe it’s an FD, RZR, or the RX3. Just my .02.
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Old Nov 11, 2020 | 05:01 PM
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Buy a Corvette or something newish and fun to drive so you can drive it while you get your other projects finished.
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Old Nov 11, 2020 | 09:22 PM
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Really appreciate all the comments , I have 1 final car to sell that’s I’m doing body work on and I took 2 weeks off in December to work on my house so wife is happy so I can start on my Rx3 . Is not that I don’t want to finish the Rx3 is that is a full restoration and doing it right is going to take a bit of time . I’m finally getting rid of my distractions to focus on Rx3 but I can’t work all day on the car I want to but I like doing stuff with family . My list of stuff to get my car going is big . I don’t mind it I want it done right to my taste and no I won’t get bored because is what i want . I’ve owned many nice new cars some sporty some off road some luxury but they are not a Rotary .
not complaining about my list I’m actually very excited but each list is a big hit and trust me I don’t got money but I manage . I do side jobs and they pay pretty good . But even if I have all the parts with me you know it don’t work like that . Is a process with the engine builder , custom works etc that’s the reason why I want a temporary fix so I can enjoy life and enjoy building my Rx3 . I can easily charge or take a loan out to buy everything but I can’t see my self doing that . I don’t want to pay interest on my passion. I been buying all my cars and parts with side hustle ( construction ) . Keep messaging me . Is actually motivating me . I don’t talk to much people about this because most are not car people and don’t understand it . For most of my family and friends is buy new car and never work on them . Now that’s boring I tried that .
This is my little list
body work
paint
Thick Iron for the 3 rotor ( not sure if billet yet )
balanced
fuel system ( radium )
efi hardware ( the ITB’s the new kit with stock port )
Fuel tech
custom exhaust
wiring
Clutch
tuning
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Old Nov 11, 2020 | 10:31 PM
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I hear you
yeah, focus on that one project and forget about the others or you'll never get it done.
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Old Nov 12, 2020 | 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by chino_rx3
This is my little list
body work
paint
Thick Iron for the 3 rotor ( not sure if billet yet )
balanced
fuel system ( radium )
efi hardware ( the ITB’s the new kit with stock port )
Fuel tech
custom exhaust
wiring
Clutch
tuning
So this is like project management 101 here. You have a broad list of things that need to be done. Now break them all down into individual parts required and sub tasks. Use MS Excel or Google Sheets or whatever you prefer, and if you're not good with that stuff -- watch Youtube videos on how to use Excel. Then estimate the cost and time for each sub task of the 3 rotor project. Then group the ones that need to be done in a specific order and figure out the road blocks to getting that ball rolling and see what compromises you can make. So for example, without the center iron you can't build the keg. But are you needlessly overspecing the center iron?

And do you need the keg done to do all the wiring? I bet half of it can be done on the bench or in the shell of the car.

Tuning: you don't have an engine yet, but you can spec out what your needs are, start reading manuals and comparing products, researching, maybe buy the ECU and wire harness and work on it on the bench.

Fuel system. Some of it is installing the fuel rail, but first you need to spec it out based on your needs. If this is a 3 rotor n/a, I presume you are running pump fuel only (premium gas, not ethanol). There's probably work that can be done in the car such as replacing rotted hose, changing the fuel pump, etc that doesn't require the engine in the vehicle. From my understanding a 3 rotor n/a doesn't really need anything crazy as you won't be flowing a lot of fuel, knock risk is low and you don't need to run so rich. You don't need expensive AN lines for everything and shiny billet fuel rails. I know 3 rotor n/a's are mostly one off rare projects, but there are probably opportunities to get work done and save some money without being needlessly cheap. By my quick estimation it can't need more fuel flow than an FD with bolt ons.

Now, the center iron and rotating assembly. Do you actually want to get this project done or not? If you want to get it done, don't get side tracked on a Polaris. Use that money to buy a center iron. Use the time you'd spend maintaining an FD on side jobs to get money to buy a center iron. Billet iron - do you really need that? Is it not cheaper and almost as effective to just get one out of a Cosmo (maybe it isn't, not my area of expertise)? It's an n/a engine. Same thing with balancing. Does it really need to rev higher than say 8000rpm? Will it make power there? If it's a side port engine with a fixed intake manifold, probably not. Rx-8 and S5 N/A needed variable intake systems to make power that high, unless you want no low end. I'm not an expert on 3 rotor N/A, but there's probably opportunity for this to have a reasonable cost.

Body work: how bad is the body? Do you really need to strip the car down? Do you have any body work skills (start the bondo work on your own)? Can you instead do some side work and trade that for help on the body with someone who works at a body shop?

If you actually spec out the project into smaller tasks, grouped by cost and man hours, you can find work that does not require a fully assembled engine or a whole bunch of money to do. The big ticket items aren't going to get purchased any time soon if you go off buying another car to distract you, and then go do side jobs to pay for wrenching on the second car. You gotta have some focus.

If I were you, the first thing I would do is make a long list of every part you think you need to finish the project. It won't be complete, but make a list, and really scrutinize if you are overbuilding the individual sub systems. Fuel systems are a classic area where sub systems get overbuilt, 800hp capable systems on a car that won't make more than 400 ever. Now run financial scenarios about what order you should be buying parts to move the project along, and how much side work is necessary to pay for the big ticket items.
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Old Nov 16, 2020 | 02:02 PM
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best to have both My rzr is super fun but it adds up really quick.. add ons, belts, breaking stuff all the time
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Old Nov 22, 2020 | 01:28 PM
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NB Miata and a supercharger kit is about the most fun you can have for cheap.

I used to roadrage all the way down to Buttonwillow raceway (which is in the middle of the California desert and is usually 100 degrees+), drive the crap out of my Miata all weekend, speed home 150 miles, then hang it up wet and drive it to work all week with no problems.
That ain't happening in an FD.


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