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Old Feb 28, 2010 | 02:09 PM
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Scoote center hood duct and its function

So i have a scoote replica hood which i believe its made by chaser... i bought the fiberglass version and its began to crack by the center vent/opening.. now im thinking of converting its function into making a air intake box using that as the inlet.

now ive seen some other replicas and curious about their function...
This is off the top of my head so please correct me if im wrong...
seibon has the least aggressive hood and center is blocked off?
Vis is more agggressive and the center is blocked off as well?

Chaser (the one i have) is open and has kind of a tunnel through the center of the hood which i believe is used for air to travel through and weight the hood down? correct me if im wrong again but this is my conclusion ive derived since this hood looks more stable then my stock hood.

now since the crack is side to side, i was thinking about cutting it completely and making some kind of intake box like the m2 one.. except the placement would be in the center. also i would make some sort of intake like goodfellas intake that places the filter between the motor and the radiator (fmic)

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Old Feb 28, 2010 | 02:44 PM
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How does it fit, and pics of crack plz.
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Old Feb 28, 2010 | 03:11 PM
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my first replica scoot hood has the center vent that ran all the way to the back, it diverted air to cool the abs unit and brake booster. the vis unit had later on was blocked off as you stated,the rain shield was held on to the hood with some type of adhesive. it is possible to run a duct from the center scoop to an air box or filter.
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Old Feb 28, 2010 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by staticguitar313
How does it fit, and pics of crack plz.
fits decent slightly larger gap on the pass side.. but idc since it has a function and i can see heat soat leaving the vents... IMO this is the best hood because all the vent openings are larger then the vis and seibon ones that i have seen...
ill get you pics when i got home tomorrow night..

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my first replica scoot hood has the center vent that ran all the way to the back, it diverted air to cool the abs unit and brake booster. the vis unit had later on was blocked off as you stated,the rain shield was held on to the hood with some type of adhesive. it is possible to run a duct from the center scoop to an air box or filter.
Interesting.. what effects does cooling the brake booster and abs have?

yeah as soon as the motor is put back in im gonna see how much room there is then start mocking up/fabbing
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Old Feb 28, 2010 | 03:41 PM
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Interesting.. what effects does cooling the brake booster and abs have?

i have no idea, the rear vents were over these areas. cooling the abs unit might help with brake fluid temps.
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Old Feb 28, 2010 | 10:19 PM
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where'd you get the chase version? I never knew that the seibon version had a fake scoop because the last one I saw was functional. You don't necessarily need a duct, if you open the front scoop you're gonna get a lot of fresh air into the engine bay.
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Old Mar 1, 2010 | 11:08 AM
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yeah my seibon hood is NOT blocked off. But it does lack the duct to the ABS like the original scoot though.
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where'd you get the chase version? I never knew that the seibon version had a fake scoop because the last one I saw was functional. You don't necessarily need a duct, if you open the front scoop you're gonna get a lot of fresh air into the engine bay.
picked it up in MD from there warehouse... i believe tehy are a forum vendor as well

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yeah my seibon hood is NOT blocked off. But it does lack the duct to the ABS like the original scoot though.
interesting... were they're two versions? the only one ive seen in person it was blocked off but i feel like other members on the site have them opened?
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Old Mar 1, 2010 | 11:26 AM
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I was wondering about this same idea.

Has anyone done this?

Pictures?
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Old Mar 1, 2010 | 11:36 AM
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i might start fabricating today... i guess ill post up a step by step process?

Note: i cut the brackets off for that middle brace in the enginebay... kinda regrettign it now as that would have been perfect to support the ducting system im gonna try fabbing up..
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Old Mar 1, 2010 | 11:51 AM
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My hood vent has a tunnel all the way back and dumps it behind the UIM on both sides...

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Old Mar 1, 2010 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by muibubbles
interesting... were they're two versions? the only one ive seen in person it was blocked off but i feel like other members on the site have them opened?
dunno... All I know it's beyond silly to have the outline of the vent with a screen (mind you), only to have it blocked off.

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EDIT- This was bugging me so I called seibon and asked what the deal was. From their own words: all of the ST-style (scoot) hoods have the center vent open, none of them are closed. If there are some that are not open they are not a seibon product.

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Old Mar 1, 2010 | 02:04 PM
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yes, and if you open the vent yourself, you might want to look into strengthening the area so it keeps it's shape, shouldn't be that hard to come up with an easy way to do that.
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Old Mar 1, 2010 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by montego
dunno... All I know it's beyond silly to have the outline of the vent with a screen (mind you), only to have it blocked off.
hmmmmmm wonder what hood it was that i saw then maybe it was vis? or another replica? anyone with a vis wanna chime in??
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Old Mar 1, 2010 | 02:34 PM
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just for info purpose.

i have a chaser FRP and all the vents are open. the middell front one has a grill and i left it there (all though it doesn't show because it is black) so that on a rainy days I put a piece of leather of the same shape of the opening so that the turbo doesn'T suck some water into my engine. My set up has an elbow infront of the intake of the turbo with a filter that positions it right infront of the opening on the hood. There is also heat reflection material that is glued under the hoot for obvious reasons. I don't have the best pics but just for reference:





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Old Mar 1, 2010 | 03:00 PM
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I just creamed a little in my pants...
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Old Mar 1, 2010 | 03:01 PM
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oh, and here's more proof that the front scoop is open on some models, ANOTHER 3 rotor turbo with the hood, it's a little big, but you can see the detail
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Old Mar 1, 2010 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by muibubbles
hmmmmmm wonder what hood it was that i saw then maybe it was vis? or another replica? anyone with a vis wanna chime in??
Herblenny has a VIS hood and IIRC you can see his IC pipes right through the front vent. Maybe he'll see this thread and chime in.
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Old Mar 1, 2010 | 03:16 PM
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I sent an email to caser aero asking to give us some input on this.
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Old Mar 1, 2010 | 03:19 PM
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well chasers is def open, i have theirs. no mesh in the center tho... man i really wonder what brand it was that i saw then......
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I heard back from russ at chaser, they sell both the one that feeds to the back of the engine compartment, and the one that isn't functional, so whichever you want to order.
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^So is the non fuctional open or closed?

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Old Mar 1, 2010 | 03:56 PM
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the front center scoop is supposed to tunnel all the way back to provide cool air over the turbos & the brake booster. the cheaper replicas don't have this to save money when producing them.
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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 05:03 PM
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No air goes forward and down to the turbos. The original ducts are exactly above the two brake units, not like in that pic. Rain guards screw in, not glue.

https://www.rx7club.com/interior-exterior-audio-26/god-all-hoods-275847/
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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by dagoof
I was wondering about this same idea.

Has anyone done this?

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I've done this for my NA 20b. I have the older ill fitting fiberglass version that has the removable rain gutter that I bought really cheap about 5yrs ago from and individual. The tunnel feeds the brake booster and abs unit. Since it was the ill fitting version, I had to do some mods to make the hood line up correctly (which it now does). No pics yet as I'm nearly finished with all my body & fab work. I'll start a thread on the entire project when it's finished.
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