rx7bomex

i have no need to resort to pms as i am telling the truth and allways have been

GoodfellaFD3S

iTrader: (213)

Something about this whole situation smells like **** to me. Getting that fake 'apology' PM is really odd, because it definitely came from the guy's user account, it wasn't a made up account....

Do you know what I'd like to see? The hard copy of your invoice sent from your bank. Snap a picture of that showing the refund.

rx7bomex

i have been 100% upfront about all this
all the screenshots and email from paypal are correct..goodfella i will fwdd u the email sent by paypal confirming no refund ever made from this guy

GoodfellaFD3S

iTrader: (213)

why don't you post up a screenshot for us all to look at?

rx7bomex

hope this works
better size on next one
honestly i ordered and paid
1/first backorder
2/then sent usps no insurance no tracking amd no proof of posting???
3/no idea where it was
4/after weeks of waffle claimed turbo sent to wrong guy who hadnt ordered one??
5/waiting for turbo to come back from wrong guy??then will offer refund
6/got fed up and filed a claim with paypal
7/more waffle that he had refunded me
8/paypal confirmed time and again by email and phone no refund and restriction on paypal account and no funds avail
9/then he claims i gave wrong address when everyone knows the delivery address shows on paypal
10/altered his invoice after i posted the copy lifted from dctuner.com(his site)my address and billing address alterd.he only claimed i gave wrong address after i posted the invoice
11/he has since deleted my access to that invoice
i have hidden nothing

rx7bomex

hope this is clearer

Mahjik

iTrader: (1)

This whole thing is a mess and should have been handled a long time ago, differently, from both sides. Both sides are talking the "short road" by saying "I refunded the money" and then "I don't have any money". Nobody is asking Paypal where this supposed "refund" ended up and that's the disconnect.

The refunder needs to verify with Paypal that funds were removed from his account and to what account they went to with Paypal. That will get half of the ball rolling. Then they can verify that the funds either did or didn't get to the proper account. Anything less at this point is pointless.

Heisenberg

iTrader: (3)

I agree. I think Rx7Bomex has a great case here. I know i have my mailing adress set on Paypal so how did the seller get the wrong shipping adress?? Also what seller in there right mind would ship a $950 turbo overseas with no tracking information.

Plus Rx7Bomex has what appears to be a recent email from paypal showing they would take the funds from his account if it had funds. At this point if i was a buisness owner i would try and rectify the situation.

rx7bomex

the prob is i am telling the truth and greg isnt paypal have confirmed no funds were avail to refund me in the first place

Mahjik

iTrader: (1)

The problem is both of you have handled this wrong. Jumping into every thread saying "give me my money" isn't the right solution. That's just going to annoy him and make him ignore you, which he did. When he first told you that he refunded the money and you noticed you didn't receive it, your first response should have been to have Paypal verify that his account was in fact debited and figure out where did it go.

If his account was in fact debited, I wouldn't want to send out another $950 either. If for some reason, the account was never debited, then you need to find out why. Both of you have "pictures" showing that:

1. The transaction was reversed
2. No funds received

You keep missing the fact that you are using a 3rd Party "Paypal" to make all this happen. Figure out where the disconnect happened between #1 and #2. It's possible that Paypal shows the transaction reversed but failed on actually getting the money. However, you need to talk to Paypal about that, not bicker on this forum.

rx7bomex

sorry i aggree on this not being the best place but i think ur missing the point..he never sent the goods in the first place and then claimed all kinds of rubbish..paypal have in my previous email confirmed no funds avail and no refund has ever been made to me and that they have placed restrictions on his account
would someone who is telling the truth rush to alter ythe orig invoice and input ficticious adddress and billing address and claim i didnt know my own address and gave a wrong one even though paypal payment has my billing address...this was back in august he scammed me and never had any intention of supplying the turbo or a refund
he took my money never supplied the goods and then claimed a refund had been done and dont forget i have phoned paypal 5 times and told every time no refund has ever been issued and restrictions have been placed on his account and have had at least 4 emails confirming the same thing .paypal address appeared on ,my payment do u honestly blve i then told him wrong address and billing addrss(why would i for gods sake)..my screenshots show my account activity and all it shows are my payment to him

Mahjik

iTrader: (1)

Did you look at his PayPal screenshot showing the transaction reversed?

rx7bomex

how can i blve that image when he has lied thru his teeth all along...as god is my witness would i go to this trouble to fraudently obtain a second refund that paypal could then have me prosecuted for

would an honest man alter the invoice just after i had posted the orig to expose his lie about having the wrong delivery address
would an honest man claim to send a 950 dollar turbo with no ins no tracking and no proof of posting
i will never get my money back but i will make sure he doesnt scam anyone else like he did me
just ask yourself why would i be so unhappy if i had had the refund

Mahjik

iTrader: (1)

Same thing on your end. How can he believe your images and that you aren't trying to get another $950 from him?

Do you see how that works? You need to verify with the 3rd Party whether or not the money was debited from his account. End of story. Without that, both sides can post up images all they want but neither side will believe the other.

rx7bomex

he knows he hasnt refunded me so does paypal they have told me and if he rung paypal they would tell him the same..the whole point is he conned me not the other way round and if u guys want to trust him then please go ahead
does anyone on this planet think paypal have pinched the 950.00 dollars because i sure as hell dont have it and only he can rectify that situation and he wont
what is the point him ringing paypal he knows he hasnt refunded me..i challenge him to get paypal to confirm where the 950.00 dollar refund has gone because i have indisputible proof it wasnt to me
pls bear in mind i would be prosecuted for fraudently obtaining a duplicate refund and obtaining goods(ie money by deception)which would hardly be in my best interest would it

Mahjik

iTrader: (1)

If caught, yes. But it happens all the time.

But, the problem, for the forum is that:

1. There are two sides to each story
2. In this case, both sides have posted "images" showing their position
3. Nobody here but you two can work it out

How does anyone here on this forum know (or why should they care) which images are correct or fake? Again, since you are using a 3rd Party transfer system (i.e. Paypal), it may also be a technical glitch that happened thus making you both right (i.e. he refunded the money, and you never got it). However you aren't going to figure that out here on the RX7 Forum as this is not Paypal.

My suggestion to you is to contact the Better Business Bureau online where the store is based (i.e. if its California based, Google for "California Better Business Bureau") or start here: http://www.bbb.org/ . They have online forums to complete for complaints.

tdazmansFD

iTrader: (1)

Even if it was a mistake with the third party, what about all of the "BS" PM's going to various forum members?
Something Stinks!
I would'nt do business with any of you two.

GregFD3S

I keep on giving him my phone number but he dosent call me. this cant be resolved on a forum, and id like to get back to talking about my FD build up.

Heath

iTrader: (11)

It seems odd that rx7bomex would feel the need to take it this far if he were indeed looking for another $950.
1.3- where is the proof of shipping? Being a business don't you keep records? Do you have a shipping account? Fishy as hell!
At this point I gotta say rx7bomex has my support on this.....not that it matters what I think but I find it very strange no insurance was provided. I don't think it ever shipped.
That's all I'll say. I hope it gets resolved and the rightful person ends up with the $

rx7bomex

tks heath i know i am never going to get my money back that isnt the point.i have been cheated plain and simple greg has not been honest in his dealings and everything that could be said has been said so what wld be the point in phoning and having a slagging match i gave him my no at work and his reply was he was going to bed but stayed on the forum a long time after
you understand my point of why in gods name wld i pursue a 2nd fraudulent traceable transaction that paypal uk could prosecute me for
greg came on here and i recognised his bullshit and sought to highlight his economy with the truth..everyone here knows u can never reach 500whp with a .82 hot side anyway u wld need to be running so much boost ur intake temps wld rocket and turbo wld prob fry......

GREG IT CAN BE SORTED OUT SIMPLE..PAY ME MY REFUND

mirabile

Are there any satisfied customers? Above you said you have sold a bunch of these turbos...always good to get things like this on the forum to prevent scams, so I think this is a good medium for it all.

tdazmansFD

iTrader: (1)

I find it odd that this Transaction happened in August and 1.3 registered on the forum in September, but yet RX7Bomex seemed to track him down still. Weird Eh?

Now...Back to Topic

Monkman33

iTrader: (28)

So... will that turbo even flow enough to support 450 hp?

rx7bomex

the spec i ordered but was never supplied or refunded for was coincedentaly the same a gregs new turbo

gt3540 .82ar hot side and 3inch v band so is prob my turbo
on full spec streetport/550/1600inj/skyline pump/uprated fpr etc 380 at wheels at 1.1 was best i could get
i ordered the .82 for quicker spool but this will never handlr 500whp
i read this thread but as soon as i read first post i realised it was none other than my cheating friend greg
i am not out to ruin his thread blve me but when someone suckers u for 950.00 it leaves a very bitter taste and only a lunatic wld give themself so much agro to try and get a fraudulent traceable and arrestable 2nd refund dont u agree

rx7bomex

i dont think gred wld try this on with anyone in the states as too much danger of someone turning up and giving him a smack
i think he needed a turbo for his car and i was the ideal candidate to tuck up
too far away to turn up on his doorstep and able to create sufficient doubt to people on that side of the pond
my guess is that he is using the turbo i paid for as it is the exact same spec i ordered in august and then he suddenly announced he has a new gt35/40r like i ordered to put on his car weeks later.no one looking for big power wld order a turbo with a .82ar hot side as it simply cant flow well enough it will be ok with supporting mods up to 400whp but very little more
i had a 1.06 hot side before switching to .82 and the 1.06 managed 418whp at 1.1 so the .82 will never manage it
but i suppose when u are getting the turbo for free you cant really complain can you