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Old 07-15-07, 10:08 PM
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Replacing timing belt/alternator

Hello,
I will be replacing both of my belts, timing and alternator..

I was just wondering if there is anything i should keep in mind/look out for when getting this done.. I am taking this to a mechanic by the way... Should i take this to a rx7 specialist or a mazda dealership?

Also should i replace anything else since alot of stuff will be removed ?
Old 07-15-07, 10:16 PM
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Umm... Rotaries don't have cams/valves etc. therefore no timing belt... If a shop is telling you they can change your timing belt I'd suggest going to a different shop. Allthough replacing the accessory belt and alternator should be a really straight farward and easy job for ANY shop. Allthough normally I'd reccomend a specialist for just about anything I think just about any shop just might be able to tackle this as IIRC they won't have to remove much of anything other than the alt itself to do it.
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you should probably replace your turnlamp fluid while your timing belt is off
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Originally Posted by Bob_760
Umm... Rotaries don't have cams/valves etc. therefore no timing belt... If a shop is telling you they can change your timing belt I'd suggest going to a different shop. Allthough replacing the accessory belt and alternator should be a really straight farward and easy job for ANY shop. Allthough normally I'd reccomend a specialist for just about anything I think just about any shop just might be able to tackle this as IIRC they won't have to remove much of anything other than the alt itself to do it.

Sorry my mistake..
accessory belt and alternator is correct my terminology was off.
So what is the accesory belt? is that the one that connects to the air pump?
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Originally Posted by Bob_760
Umm... Rotaries don't have cams/valves etc. therefore no timing belt... If a shop is telling you they can change your timing belt I'd suggest going to a different shop. Allthough replacing the accessory belt and alternator should be a really straight farward and easy job for ANY shop. Allthough normally I'd reccomend a specialist for just about anything I think just about any shop just might be able to tackle this as IIRC they won't have to remove much of anything other than the alt itself to do it.
So if there is no timming belt, does this mean no timing is required?
so i could possible do this on my own?
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There is no timing.

You can definitely do it by yourself.
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Originally Posted by car hugger
There is no timing.

You can definitely do it by yourself.
Where can i buy 2 belts that will fit the car perfect with no squeeking ?

I am looking to do this myself ..
Is there any how to guides that will show the install steps for this ?
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Malloy Mazda and Ray Crowe for parts, their number is everywhere.

download the manual for a how to.

seriously, you can do this. it's simple. you should also check the idler pulley and see if you need a new one, they're only $50 and it'll get annoyingly squeaky if it's old enough.
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Originally Posted by airborne
Malloy Mazda and Ray Crowe for parts, their number is everywhere.

download the manual for a how to.

seriously, you can do this. it's simple. you should also check the idler pulley and see if you need a new one, they're only $50 and it'll get annoyingly squeaky if it's old enough.
Idle pulley located in same area as the other 2?
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Originally Posted by airborne
Malloy Mazda and Ray Crowe for parts, their number is everywhere.

download the manual for a how to.

seriously, you can do this. it's simple. you should also check the idler pulley and see if you need a new one, they're only $50 and it'll get annoyingly squeaky if it's old enough.

Hey where are these manuals?
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At the top of the 3rd gen forums. There are stickies that have all of the info that you need.

lol...blinker fluid, exhaust bearings, header valves....gets me everytime lol
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http://shop.mzpart.com/brand.php?mak..._rib_belt&my=1

found this site
but unsure what 2 belts I need
could someone direct me to which 2 belts i need from that site?
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So there is no timming required when installing both of the belts?
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oK LOOKED at the FAQ couldnt find nothing
maybe the link was down

anyways wat size of belts do i need to replace the 2 ? Alternator drive belt and the accesory one (connects to water pump)

also if i want to replace the idle belt what size is this and is there timming required ?
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NAPA has very high quality belts. Replacing the alternator/belts in a very simple job. Just be patient and DON'T GO TO A STEALERSHIP.
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Top of Third Generation Specific. Sticky called Tech Manual Directory

Call Ray at Malloy Mazda. Use the search button and look up Malloy mazda. You will find the phone number.

Trust us about using Ray. Do not use other dealers. Example: I just bought a water pump from Ray, Dealer list was 111.80, Ray charges 65.00.

These are both accessory belts. One belt for the Alternator, Water Pump, and Air pump. The other is for the Power steering and A/C.

I've purchased after-market belts before. The PS and A/C belt was fine but the Alternator belt never fit properly. I replaced mine three times over two years. I finally bought the dealer belts. Perfect fit. The Alternator belt is expensive though.

Please understand there is NO Timing adjustment.
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the cool part about a rotary is this:

take belt off, put new belt on. done. it doesn't matter if anything turns or moves, just make sure you get the belt on at the right tension.


So easy... a cavema... nevermind.
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Originally Posted by wb123
Hey where are these manuals?
https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-gen-archives-73/tech-manual-directory-614824/
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Ok
so where is the idle belt located ? and what size of belt is necessary for this? does it need timing ?
still no one has informed me of this, as of yet =)
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Your idle belt is located right next to the flux capacitor.
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There are only two belts. One drives the alternator, waterpump and airpump; the other drives the power steering and A/C. Timing is done by a timing plate on the base of the main pulley which is read by two sensors.
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Originally Posted by rx slim
Your idle belt is located right next to the flux capacitor.
i need pics
im a visual learner
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Ok....call Ray at Malloy, download the FSM (factory service manual) from the link that Mahjik posted and do it yourself. Its not hard at all, and there is no need to adjust any sort of timing.
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the part #'s on the belts are 5050530 (5PK1345) & 5060410 (6PK1040). the 5050530 is 53in long inside area. the 5060410 is 41in long. the 5pk and 6pk means number of groves in belt and the 1345 and 1040 means length in mm. just what i have found out.

http://www.goodyearep.com/ProductsDetail.aspx?id=3128

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the problem i have is the longer belt for the water, air pump and alternator for some reason is just a little short. only thing i can figure is the bracket that is the adjustment bracket that holds on the air pump is installed a little wrong and for that reason even with both lock nuts loose and adjustment all the way in it still wont fit. i am going to try a 5050540 (54 in long) and see if this works. ill let you all know


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