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08-04-06, 09:16 PM
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Didn't the Mazda LeMans 4 rotor produce 1000HP straight motor? Now if you had the money to do a 4 rotor in the first place...couldn't you just mimick their techniques? Especially since from what I've read is they achieved that 1k HP just by upping the revs to 11k instead of 9k which was far less HP. Of course I am talking about a super mechanic team that has endless amounts of money and R&D to be able to do this.
08-04-06, 10:45 PM
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I think you need to research the 787 a bit more 
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Originally Posted by FallenCho
Didn't the Mazda LeMans 4 rotor produce 1000HP straight motor? Now if you had the money to do a 4 rotor in the first place...couldn't you just mimick their techniques? Especially since from what I've read is they achieved that 1k HP just by upping the revs to 11k instead of 9k which was far less HP. Of course I am talking about a super mechanic team that has endless amounts of money and R&D to be able to do this.
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08-04-06, 11:41 PM
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What I think he hints or actually wanted to say if he could type in "english". Is that Lemans racers are always placed with restrictors on the engines that limit horsepower. So without limiations could a 26b produce 1000hp?
Also what do you mean they upped the redline to 11k instead of 9k. They just don't go into the Bosch or Motec or w/e ECU and change the redline and boom 300 hp more! This isn't gran turismo. I doubt anyone would want an engine to run Lemans that produces 1000 hp (Within current LMP1/2 regulations).
All this to say, in my beleif a 3 Rotor turbo or a 4 Rotor N/A is more than any street FD should ever dream of.
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What I think he hints or actually wanted to say if he could type in "english". Is that Lemans racers are always placed with restrictors on the engines that limit horsepower. So without limiations could a 26b produce 1000hp?
Also what do you mean they upped the redline to 11k instead of 9k. They just don't go into the Bosch or Motec or w/e ECU and change the redline and boom 300 hp more! This isn't gran turismo. I doubt anyone would want an engine to run Lemans that produces 1000 hp (Within current LMP1/2 regulations).
All this to say, in my beleif a 3 Rotor turbo or a 4 Rotor N/A is more than any street FD should ever dream of.
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08-04-06, 11:52 PM
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1) i am a rotard, but honestly i have seen with my own two eyes a non built ls1 408 stroker w/ a big turbo and etc push over 1000hp/trq and run for a few years and also win the small block chevy with power adders class at hot rod's drag week last year, oh yea it weighs over 5000 lbs http://www.1320video.com/img/album01/67_G.jpg
so its not to take away from the lsx blocks, they are great and there are a lot of them making alot of hp
2) 23a's(12a) are shorter and lighter than a 20b, and i would love to make one some day
3) 4 rotors just sound SIIIIICK
4) screw 4 rotors, its about the 6 rotor!!!
http://www.hurleyrotary.com/hme13b.aspx
so its not to take away from the lsx blocks, they are great and there are a lot of them making alot of hp
2) 23a's(12a) are shorter and lighter than a 20b, and i would love to make one some day
3) 4 rotors just sound SIIIIICK
4) screw 4 rotors, its about the 6 rotor!!!
http://www.hurleyrotary.com/hme13b.aspx
08-05-06, 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by dradon03
Also what do you mean they upped the redline to 11k instead of 9k. They just don't go into the Bosch or Motec or w/e ECU and change the redline and boom 300 hp more! This isn't gran turismo.
Whenever someone start making arguments with the "I think..." statement, I stop listening.
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Don't get me started on that mess! I can't get my head out of the clouds over this damn engine! I just want it freggin' gone! You all bring up one singular point and that is... MAZDA DIDN'T GIVE A FLYING MONKEY'S *** ABOUT THE R26B! They themselves found it too much of a hassle to make a 4 rotor engine in production!They figured out that no one needs 4 damn rotors to make a happy 1,000 HP and up, they wanted to crank 400 on the 10A but they didn't. Damn... It doesn't stop me from saying that a ridiculously powerful 4 rotor street machine will look better than a Viper or Vette any day because WE rotor nuts have class and a lot of *****. That's right, one of us will actually do it and there ain't nuthin' anyone of us will do about it but nod in bewilderment. 
03-26-09, 08:14 PM
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seriously we need to be supporting this for the guy. im sure that there will be some if not a lot of problems till he gets this right. but this is our chance to match the BIG v8 swap guys with a rotary. I just think that there will be a quite a few bearings needed and the rpms not much higher than 9k considering the e-shaft is probably about as long as buicks fireball inline 8. just my opinion
04-17-12, 05:33 PM
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Also what do you mean they upped the redline to 11k instead of 9k. They just don't go into the Bosch or Motec or w/e ECU and change the redline and boom 300 hp more! This isn't gran turismo. I doubt anyone would want an engine to run Lemans that produces 1000 hp (Within current LMP1/2 regulations).
Alex
Also what do you mean they upped the redline to 11k instead of 9k. They just don't go into the Bosch or Motec or w/e ECU and change the redline and boom 300 hp more! This isn't gran turismo. I doubt anyone would want an engine to run Lemans that produces 1000 hp (Within current LMP1/2 regulations).
Alex
you know..power = torque x rpm blah blah blah...
increase rpm, and dont decrease torque and you have more power, simple!
increase rpm, and decrease torque slightly - you will still have more power!
EDIT- adding some real facts:
FYI - horsepower forumula/equation is Torque x RPM divided by 5252 = power/horsepower!
so just for argument sake lets say it has 400 ft/lb of torque @ 9k rpm. that equals 685hp.
lets increase that RPM to 11k and keep the same 400ft/lb of torque - suddenly we have 837.77 horsepower!
Even if we decrease torque to 350ft/lb at 11k rpm and we are still making more power ! 733.05 horsepower
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04-23-12, 07:41 AM
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04-25-12, 07:19 AM
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I'm a CF and poop smith
...wonder what could've changed that much?
05-09-12, 05:11 AM
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idk, I saw on a youtube video of driver talking about how they are trying to get more torque out of it as they are only getting ~300 even though they were getting over 600 hp.
05-12-12, 10:30 PM
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Custom tension bolts aren't worth the money, get a dozen of these and you'll be fine 
So basically in theory, I could buy that e-shaft for $5,600 and a used good engine for about $1000, mate that engine with my current engine. Make a tubular intake manifold, weld 2 KG fuel rails together, buy another primary fuel rail. Have some real long tention bolst made. Sell the front section of one engine to buy another intermediate housing and WHOLA, I could have a 4rotor.
hmm, wonder how much the one off oil pan would cost?
Now to get it in that car haha
j/k
STEPHEN
hmm, wonder how much the one off oil pan would cost?
Now to get it in that car haha
j/k
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