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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 01:59 PM
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Question: Where is ODB II connector?

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I tried to get a state inspection today, and the guy at the garage couldn't find the ODB connector to hook up.
I don't know if previous owner of my car used OBD II to connect Power FC or not... hopefully not. Well, where is it?
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 02:04 PM
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our cars arn't OBD II since that didn't come out till 96 or 97...
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by nopistons94
our cars arn't OBD II since that didn't come out till 96 or 97...
Oh thank you.. if it's OBD I then where is the connector?
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 02:31 PM
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their not OBD at all heh :ohmy: he might have a problem finding it because we don't have one. A connector that they have anyway
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by nopistons94
their not OBD at all heh :ohmy: he might have a problem finding it because we don't have one. A connector that they have anyway
Thank you for your answer again..
Then how do we get it inspected without connecting anything ?
How did you guys get inspected?
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 02:51 PM
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PA has a separate set of inspection/emission requirements for 96 and older cars. Naturally, that doesn't require OBD stuff. Does your inspector have a clue? I would think this is daily-use information they should know deeply.

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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 03:04 PM
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PA has a separate set of inspection/emission requirements for 96 and older cars. Naturally, that doesn't require OBD stuff. Does your inspector have a clue? I would think this is daily-use information they should know deeply.

Dave


yea im kinda perplexed that they don't have any idea how to inspect a car without a OBD connector lol. Is this a private place or is this the state place?
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 03:13 PM
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I'm pretty sure the "diagnosis" connector in front of the drivers side strut tower is the OBD I connection. The cover may have broken off of it so the "diagnosis" may be missing. Just look for a black connector that faces the sky near the fuse box by the battery.

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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by turbojeff
I'm pretty sure the "diagnosis" connector in front of the drivers side strut tower is the OBD I connection. The cover may have broken off of it so the "diagnosis" may be missing. Just look for a black connector that faces the sky near the fuse box by the battery.

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That's the one I was thinkin of...beat me to it. But yea, our cars def. aren't OBD II.
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by turbojeff
I'm pretty sure the "diagnosis" connector in front of the drivers side strut tower is the OBD I connection. The cover may have broken off of it so the "diagnosis" may be missing. Just look for a black connector that faces the sky near the fuse box by the battery.

Jeff
Oh sure. I Will go check it out thanx for the help.
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 05:06 PM
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yea im kinda perplexed that they don't have any idea how to inspect a car without a OBD connector lol. Is this a private place or is this the state place?
This is one of GULF gas station inspectors, and he was looking for a connector under the steering wheel where I was told that connector should be. I had my 1991 Nissan 240sx inspected couple of months ago and had no problem. but don't remember he plugged something in the car or not.
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 05:07 PM
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I'm pretty sure the "diagnosis" connector in front of the drivers side strut tower is the OBD I connection.
Yep that's it. Luckily an OBD1 connection is not required for smog certification.
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 05:08 PM
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They have to do it the old fashioned way - put a probe in the tailpipe & sniff it. The diagnosis connector won't do a thing for an emissions test.
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by nopistons94
our cars arn't OBD II since that didn't come out till 96 or 97...
1/1/96 was the official date, but some were seen a couple of years earlier.
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 05:24 PM
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The diagnosis connector won't do a thing for an emissions test.
Thank God. That diagnostic port is Mazda-proprietary for troubleshooting. No state has access to the connection per law at the time and smog guys have to get dirty with the sniffers and timing sensors if they have the newer Sun machines that recognize the rotary. Always call ahead to see if they can do rotaries. Most do now that the RX-8 is coming up on their first bi-annual smog, at least in Cali.

Now every car is wired up like an EKG.

FYI to those with newer daily drivers(Not the FD or earlier):

If your battery goes dead or must be replaced, don't try and smog it before putting on at least 50-75 miles of "operational road history" it records. Not enough driving history found, the car fails to report.

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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 06:06 PM
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yea theres no actual OBD I connecter in these cars... like he said the diag box wont tell what they want to see



if they dont pass you, offer the guy a 30 pack and 50 bucks... he'll pass you
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 07:02 PM
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it is an obd I car. the standard connector and location were part of the US obd II emission laws. newer emissions testing want a full drive cycle for obd ii tests. they have found that a newer obd iIIcar will be evey bit as sensitive to any emmision irregualrities as a "smog" run so it is cheaper to just run the system check out. full drive cycle with no codes should be a clean running car. it is hard to get the evap sys to run it's check sometimes.
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