3rd Generation Specific (1993-2002) 1993-2002 Discussion including performance modifications and Technical Support Sections.
Sponsored by:

question about overheat

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-26-10, 10:12 PM
  #1  
Sir Braps A lot

Thread Starter
 
rx7rcer09's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Hilliard, OHIO
Posts: 2,001
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
question about overheat

while driving home from work something put a decent sized hole in my radiator needless to say i caught it at about 105 degrees on the highway i pulled over asap took exit and turned off in parking lot. when looking a the rear of the car it was coated in coolent i checked my oil right away to make sure there was no coolent in the oil which there was not so i believe the coolent seals are still good. what i need to know is if this has happend to anyone else.
Old 03-26-10, 10:15 PM
  #2  
RX-7 Bad Ass

iTrader: (55)
 
DaleClark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Pensacola, FL
Posts: 15,399
Received 2,438 Likes on 1,509 Posts
You're most likely OK, you caught it really quick. If any problems will arise, it will be a few weeks from now.

Good for you for pulling over and shutting down.

Just get the radiator fixed (aluminum replacement) and you'll be back on the road.

Dale
Old 03-27-10, 07:56 AM
  #3  
Sir Braps A lot

Thread Starter
 
rx7rcer09's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Hilliard, OHIO
Posts: 2,001
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
yep im going to get it replaced and do a compression check just to be super safe.
Old 03-27-10, 08:29 AM
  #4  
Mr. Links

iTrader: (1)
 
Mahjik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Kansas City, MO
Posts: 27,595
Received 40 Likes on 26 Posts
Originally Posted by rx7rcer09
yep im going to get it replaced and do a compression check just to be super safe.
Compression test won't tell you anything about coolant seal health...
Old 03-27-10, 09:13 AM
  #5  
Cheap Bastard

iTrader: (2)
 
adam c's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: San Luis Obispo, Ca
Posts: 8,370
Received 50 Likes on 42 Posts
Always listen to Mahjik ................... about coolant seal health
Old 03-27-10, 10:59 AM
  #6  
Constant threat

 
bajaman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: near Wichita, Kansas
Posts: 4,952
Received 35 Likes on 31 Posts
Do you still have your air conditioning condenser in place? I am curious how something from the road can poke a hole in the radiator if the condenser is in place and the undertray intact?
Old 03-27-10, 12:21 PM
  #7  
TANSTAFL

iTrader: (13)
 
alexdimen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Richmond, Va.
Posts: 3,770
Received 123 Likes on 82 Posts
Originally Posted by rx7rcer09
while driving home from work something put a decent sized hole in my radiator needless to say i caught it at about 105 degrees on the highway i pulled over asap took exit and turned off in parking lot. when looking a the rear of the car it was coated in coolent i checked my oil right away to make sure there was no coolent in the oil which there was not so i believe the coolent seals are still good. what i need to know is if this has happend to anyone else.
FYI, a blown coolant seal will cause coolant to leak into the combustion chamber, not the oil system. Checking the oil isn't going to tell you anything.

You're probably fine... only one way to tell. Fix the leak and see what happens. Just be careful topping it off, these cars are hard to bleed the air out of the first time.
Old 03-27-10, 01:24 PM
  #8  
Mr. Links

iTrader: (1)
 
Mahjik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Kansas City, MO
Posts: 27,595
Received 40 Likes on 26 Posts
Originally Posted by alexdimen
FYI, a blown coolant seal will cause coolant to leak into the combustion chamber, not the oil system.
That's not entirely correct. You can have a coolant seal failure on the lower portion of the engine which will leak coolant into the oil pan.
Old 03-27-10, 01:38 PM
  #9  
Full Member
iTrader: (3)
 
paul1985's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: san diego, CA
Posts: 81
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
i let a buddy drive my car and the stock radiator exploded and he said it started to heat up so i decided to just rebuild the whole thing and port it. from what some people say a soon as the needle starts to move your all ready in trouble. Im not sure how true that is though.
Old 03-27-10, 02:41 PM
  #10  
Sir Braps A lot

Thread Starter
 
rx7rcer09's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Hilliard, OHIO
Posts: 2,001
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by paul1985
i let a buddy drive my car and the stock radiator exploded and he said it started to heat up so i decided to just rebuild the whole thing and port it. from what some people say a soon as the needle starts to move your all ready in trouble. Im not sure how true that is though.
this is not true the motor can take some heat but not for long amounts of time. and no the car has no AC and no undertray. i can only imagine what it was ill post pics as soon as i pull the one thats in it out, hopefully my seals are okay. i believe they are due to no smell of coolent burning when it was running and it didnt hit higher than 107 on the PFC and when i let it sit over night and started it no smoke what so ever so i think the rotary gods are on my side for this one.
Old 03-27-10, 02:46 PM
  #11  
rotorhead

iTrader: (3)
 
arghx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: cold
Posts: 16,182
Received 429 Likes on 263 Posts
105 C is fine for a short period of time. You know the fans don't even come on until 105 C on a stock car? At some point your FD went for many thousands of miles running as high as 105 or 108C. Just fix the leak and keep driving it.
Old 03-27-10, 03:14 PM
  #12  
Sir Braps A lot

Thread Starter
 
rx7rcer09's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Hilliard, OHIO
Posts: 2,001
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by arghx
105 C is fine for a short period of time. You know the fans don't even come on until 105 C on a stock car? At some point your FD went for many thousands of miles running as high as 105 or 108C. Just fix the leak and keep driving it.
true i had my fans on at 84 but seeing high temp for like 5 minutes scared the **** out of me. o well i called my insurance and they said they will not cover a new radiator so looks like im more S.O.L, and there goes my save money plan woooo lmao o well gotta pay to play.
Old 03-28-10, 01:48 PM
  #13  
TANSTAFL

iTrader: (13)
 
alexdimen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Richmond, Va.
Posts: 3,770
Received 123 Likes on 82 Posts
Originally Posted by Mahjik
That's not entirely correct. You can have a coolant seal failure on the lower portion of the engine which will leak coolant into the oil pan.
You're right.

My point was that I think it's a poor way to test for a blown o-ring. I'd guess that the number of outer o-rings that fail is negligible compared to the inner o-rings that fail from that one thin little wall corroding and falling into the channel.
Old 03-28-10, 02:32 PM
  #14  
Rotary Enthusiast

iTrader: (6)
 
oppa637's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Houston
Posts: 1,246
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Pretty sure fans come on at 95 deg...i think
Old 03-28-10, 03:01 PM
  #15  
Sir Braps A lot

Thread Starter
 
rx7rcer09's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Hilliard, OHIO
Posts: 2,001
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by oppa637
Pretty sure fans come on at 95 deg...i think
mine are set through the PFC
Old 03-28-10, 05:32 PM
  #16  
rotorhead

iTrader: (3)
 
arghx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: cold
Posts: 16,182
Received 429 Likes on 263 Posts
not that it matters much in this case, but the two main fan relays are switched on at 105C by the factory ECU. These relays can be switched on at a lower temperature if you use a Power FC.

see https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generation-specific-1993-2002-16/why-engine-so-damn-complicated-part-3-cooling-fan-controls-876767/
Old 03-28-10, 11:40 PM
  #17  
Rotary Enthusiast

iTrader: (6)
 
oppa637's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Houston
Posts: 1,246
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
hmmm... lol, weird. Mine come on at 95 with the powerfc's basic tune
Old 03-29-10, 12:36 AM
  #18  
Spooling

iTrader: (7)
 
Nateness's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: SoCal
Posts: 375
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by oppa637
hmmm... lol, weird. Mine come on at 95 with the powerfc's basic tune
Mine also come on at ~94-ish when I have the parking lamp or the interior fans running with my out-of-the-box tune PFC.
Old 03-29-10, 01:12 AM
  #19  
Turd Ferguson

iTrader: (1)
 
grimple1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Sherman Oaks, California
Posts: 2,047
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
^ you guys sure there wasn't an upgraded FC thermoswitch installed?
Old 03-29-10, 01:23 AM
  #20  
Rotary Freak

iTrader: (9)
 
turboIIrotary's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: dayton,ohio
Posts: 2,618
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
my fc vert blew a coolant seal as soon as the temp went up i don't remember the temp but it was 3/4 of the gauge so it could kill a motor, not sure if fd engine can handle more heat.
Old 03-30-10, 02:44 PM
  #21  
Sir Braps A lot

Thread Starter
 
rx7rcer09's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Hilliard, OHIO
Posts: 2,001
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
pulled out the Radiator and the damage was pretty good, big enough to fit my index finger into so it was quite large. o well just talked to Jason there is a deal on KOYO rads.






Old 04-09-10, 11:49 PM
  #22  
Wangan Junkie
iTrader: (11)
 
smog-guy707's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 1,249
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by grimple1
^ you guys sure there wasn't an upgraded FC thermoswitch installed?
mine come on at 85C

http://www.pettitracing.com/rx7/index_cooling.htm
Old 04-09-10, 11:56 PM
  #23  
Senior Member

iTrader: (1)
 
MSilk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: BC Canada
Posts: 262
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
That rad looks like it was scraping on something, is it mounted in the stock location?

Mike
Old 04-10-10, 03:54 AM
  #24  
Brappable.

iTrader: (6)
 
RLaoFD's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Bay Area
Posts: 1,384
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts
I agree, that's an odd position for such a large protrusion. Either way I hope everything's okay.
Old 04-10-10, 04:48 PM
  #25  
Sir Braps A lot

Thread Starter
 
rx7rcer09's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Hilliard, OHIO
Posts: 2,001
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
what ever it was i didnt hear it. im just glad the motor is okay
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
_Tones_
Adaptronic Engine Mgmt - AUS
10
05-25-21 05:37 AM
The1Sun
1st Generation Specific (1979-1985)
0
09-07-15 10:21 PM
Nosferatu
2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992)
7
09-05-15 02:13 PM



Quick Reply: question about overheat



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:35 AM.