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Old 03-03-04, 04:01 PM
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Pulling the motor in project car- tranny attached?

I never pulled my old motor with the tranny attached.. well I got a blown auto in the project car.. Just curious if I can pull the tranny with the motor or if its easier to do them seperatly..

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on an auto

two things, a.) it weighs more, b.) you can't drain the fluid out, so you'll get fluid everywhere (you have to drop the pan to drain the fluid) c.) the fluid dipstick gets in the way, PITA

i'd say take it out seperately
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I took mine out with the engine, pretty simpler, not much harder than it was with the manual tranny. I would try and drain the oil first. All you have to do is drop the pan.
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I just pulled my engine for the first time, and did it with the transmission attached. I thought it came out and went back in fairly easy, and I pulled it by myself. I have a 5spd though, but I cant see that the auto would weigh enough to make that big of a difference.
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Automatics have more pipes to disconnect, more fluid to deal with, and more electronic connectors to fidel around with.
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Re: Pulling the motor in project car- tranny attached?

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I never pulled my old motor with the tranny attached.. well I got a blown auto in the project car.. Just curious if I can pull the tranny with the motor or if its easier to do them seperatly..

Matt

Do it seprate. specialy if it's an auto you don't have to release the clutch. the advandage of doing it seprate is: not having the ppf fall on you, removing drive shaft, draing the trans fluid.

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how far do i need to get the front end off the ground to successfully pull an engine/5speed together?? thanks, heath
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I've pulled 3 motors with the tranny still attached. It's MUCH more simple to do do that then reach the 6 tranny bolts.

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Originally posted by RotorMotor
how far do i need to get the front end off the ground to successfully pull an engine/5speed together?? thanks, heath
I just jacked up the car on all four corners high enough for me to get around underneath on a creeper. I didnt have any clearance issues from underneath. I was actually worried whether I would have enough clearance height wise from the bumper to the ceiling of my garage, but didn't have any problem. IMO it would have been alot more work to leave the transmission (5spd at least) in the car when pulling the engine. I was able to line up and bolt the tranmission to the engine in less five minuites outside of the car. I also put the downpipe on before I put the engine back in.
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Re: Re: Pulling the motor in project car- tranny attached?

Originally posted by stevecod
Do it seprate. specialy if it's an auto you don't have to release the clutch. the advandage of doing it seprate is: not having the ppf fall on you, removing drive shaft, draing the trans fluid.

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Listen to this man, He has pulled more motors than probably almost anyone, and certainly faster than you think possible.
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Re: Re: Re: Pulling the motor in project car- tranny attached?

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Listen to this man, He has pulled more motors than probably almost anyone, and certainly faster than you think possible.
thanks for the complement BOSS!
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Hey, no problem I just think people need to know you've done it literally hundreds of times, I will say definatly leave the tranny in esp. without having the plug for the rear of the tranny, and esp with auto it is so easy because there is no release as Steve said.

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: Pull the motor without the tranny.

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Hey now I don't call you stupid.
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Thanks for the tips, as I will soon be to that point. I just was wondering how hard it is to get to (and how many there are) the transmission bolts?
Clearance to get to bolts seems to be a big issue, hell....I am still almost perplexed on trying to get the A/C compressor off....it LOOKS like there is one bolt that is about .400 away from the frame of the car, and I need that bolt to come out a good inch or more to get it out of the mounting bracket...or so it seems.....
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There are 4 bolts holding the AC compressor on. It isn't really that hard to get off, it just takes a little patience.

I ALWAYS pull the trans with the motor. I have never pulled a motor out of a auto trans car though, only 5spd.

It literally takes 5min to undo the PPF, driveline etc if you have an impact wrench.
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same here... thanks for all the info... when my clutch/flywheel arive ill pull the motor/trans, as well as the 20b/auto-tranny in my cosmo front clip. i hope to get both motors out, separated, and mate the 20b to the 13b 5speed over a weekend. wish me luck... its my first motor pull ever... haha im such a newb , but you have to start somewhere, and i learn relativly quick... maybe ill take some pictures and do a little writeup or something

*start hijacking thread now* ...one question for everyone is about my 5speed... i have never had it running (bought my project car with an engine fire) anyway, the clutch line is melted (i have all the replacement parts etc) but before i put the tranny back in the car and do all the repairs i wanted to see whats going on w/ 4th gear.... i am able to shift into any gear with ease (keep in mind there is no pressure in the clutch) except 4th gear... every other gear engages smoothly but when i go for 4th it feels like im hitting a wall... it will engage if i force it but something seems wrong to me. does this sound like a problem that needs to be addressed before the tranny goes back in, or do you think it will be fine once back in operation? thanks and sorry for hijacking -heath
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I've pulled many many many motors. I always do it with the tranny attached. I can pull the motor in 1.5 hours and then strip it down another 1.5 hours. I haven't done nearly as many autos, but I've done manuals plenty of times. Usually the tranny needs new fluid so just drain it, else keep the driveshaft in place. I've never had the PPF hit me. The clutch is easy to disconnect with two big screw drivers. The only other clutch item is the slave cylindar ... unto two bolts and its out .. just don't step on the clutch peddle at this point!

One thing is that once you do many motor pulls you learn the easiest way to remove wiring harness and coolant lines. For example don't try and pull the coolant line by the spark plugs from the block but pull it from the firewall. The factory line was attached with a speed connector so it makes it a little more difficult to get off.
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I never pulled the auto out of an FD, but I have from a previous car.

All I can suggest is if you can't drain the tranny easily, get a palstic bag, wrap it around the rear of the tranny, and put some thick rubber bands around it. That way, when the tranny is at a 45 degree angle, the tranny fluid won't come out making a mess everywhere.
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I tired the "bag around the tranny" method with my auto, and it sort of worked. I just should have used MUCH stronger bags that wouldn't really easily develop holes. That, and I probably should have put on 3 or 4 bags.

Good idea, though!
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Take it from me Godzilla, I pulled my motor with auto tranny about 4 times, with manual about 3 times, its easier to pull both out at the same time. if u doit seperately, well its just too much wires to unplug, too many bolts to get to, and this and that.
so just pull together, oh by the way, i took ur advice on compression test.
result=kaboom rear rotor.
oh well, now i can go for 20b. hehe
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