power window problem (searched)
03-31-02, 12:32 AM
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power window problem (searched)
This is weired...My passenger window sometimes works, other times does not. cant find any pattern. Sometimes I cannot put it down from the drivers side, but it works from passenger. Other times it works from both, other times doesnt work at all. Sometimes it does not work, then 3 minutes later works.
Any ideas?
Any ideas?
03-31-02, 01:07 AM
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My guess is that you have a short. I would start with pulling the passenger door panel off and check for any funky connections. Test the inputs and outputs at each harness. Make sure your power window regulator shows voltage when you switch between up and down. Look at page Z-94 in your shop manual.
03-31-02, 01:24 AM
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Hold it a little closer to the monitor. But really, you should pick up a manual. I will pay for it's self the first time you use it. There is a manual online somewhere, but I don't really know where it is. Maybe someone else can point you there. Electrical problems are not always easy, but they can be solved. And yes, someone may have experienced your problem (though I have not heard of anyone), but that's not to say that you can't figure it out with some common sense and effort. Shorts are cause by the lack of continuity. In your case it is intermitant,an indication of poor condutivity, most likely caused by a pinched wire, or poor ground near the window motor. Why the motor, and not the switch? Because both driver side, and passenger are able to make the window go up and down. Or, you could simply have the passenger side window locked.
03-31-02, 04:16 AM
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You might have bad continuity in one of your wires, I did and it just happened to be a wire located in the door jam 
, I'm still trying to get that harness off!!
or it could be your switch, diassemble your switch and you'll be suprized at how much black charcoal stuff you'll find on the contact patches, use some sand paper to wipe it off..
, I'm still trying to get that harness off!!or it could be your switch, diassemble your switch and you'll be suprized at how much black charcoal stuff you'll find on the contact patches, use some sand paper to wipe it off..
03-31-02, 04:19 AM
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you can down load the factory service manual here
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03-31-02, 09:59 AM
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Check please!
Before you go to a lot of trouble, check out the passenger window lockout switch on the driver's door. Having already replaced the driver's side motor under warranty, when the passenger's side went out I automatically assumed it was toast too. Apparently, I inadvertantly hit the lockout switch with my elbow, and looked like a doopa when I took it in for repair.
03-31-02, 10:52 AM
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Its not the motor for sure. If it was it would never go down. The passenger lock switch is in the ON position and it still does not work most of time.
Are you saying its possible that even though the switch is in the 'on' position, it could have a short or be worn out to the point that sometimes it sends the incorrect signal as to whether the lock is on or off?
Are you saying its possible that even though the switch is in the 'on' position, it could have a short or be worn out to the point that sometimes it sends the incorrect signal as to whether the lock is on or off?
04-01-02, 09:35 AM
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It is the power window switch on the driver's side. Check to see if it does feel a little loose when you pull up on it compared to the other switches. I have the same problem on my FD and bought a new switch. (common Mazda problem, my old FC also had a bad switch). Pull the switch out and take off the screws on the bottom (careful not to drop all the insides on the floor). You'll find that the little plastic rocker tab inside of the switch is cracked. You can avoid the $160+ for a new switch by getting another used switch and swapping a new toggle. Problem is that you'll probably have to fix it again in a year or 2 using used parts...
05-09-02, 01:40 AM
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My driver side window only goes down but not up. Since there is only 1 motor, I guess they are just reversing the direction of the motor and so the switch must be bad, but I have already played with the switch and opened it up as far as I could and I couldn't see any problem with it. I don't think it is a bad ground since the window still goes down. I am downloading the wiring spec manual now, hopefully that will tell me what wires to check.
Can I just short out the connection on the back of the switch with a wire to make it go back up for now? I just dont want to park with an open window.
Can I just short out the connection on the back of the switch with a wire to make it go back up for now? I just dont want to park with an open window.
05-09-02, 02:38 AM
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I looked at the wiring diagram and it would seem that if I short out the W/L with the R on the main power window switch, it should make the window go up.
I tried it and it didn't seem to make any diff. I did measure 12V on the W/L wire which is good (since that should be coming from the battery).
Alternatively, I can reach the wire that runs around the pully's since I have the panelling off from the door, but it seems that there is some kind of break/lock mechanism on the wire since I cannot pull it up to force the window up, does anyone know if you can disengage that lock somehow to allow you to manually close the window?
It would seem that this would be necessary to work on a broken/seized window. I have the shop manual and didn't see anything explaining this.
I tried it and it didn't seem to make any diff. I did measure 12V on the W/L wire which is good (since that should be coming from the battery).
Alternatively, I can reach the wire that runs around the pully's since I have the panelling off from the door, but it seems that there is some kind of break/lock mechanism on the wire since I cannot pull it up to force the window up, does anyone know if you can disengage that lock somehow to allow you to manually close the window?
It would seem that this would be necessary to work on a broken/seized window. I have the shop manual and didn't see anything explaining this.
05-09-02, 09:37 AM
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I am convinced mine is the switch on drivers side. I found that if the engine is off and the key in the 2nd position I can "usually" (not always) open and close passenger window. With engine running and door shut, it works about 30 minutes after I drive. Some tmies it lets me put it down, but then I have to use passenger window switch to put up. When the drivers side window switch does not work, the passenger side will not work either. I will get a new one, I just feel $209.00 is a bit steep.
05-09-02, 03:16 PM
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Mine passenger will go up if I use the passenger window switch. You can tell if the switch is broken - it will feel very loose when pulling it up(when compared to the unbroken switch). You should be able to buy a new switch for 10-20% off from your Mazda dealer if you negotiate. Or just use some place like MazdaFormance (which is a dealer) or Malloy Mazda.
05-09-02, 07:52 PM
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to test the switch, just take out the switch and test it with a DMM,,...
as for my previous post, I finally figured out what my problem was. I pulled out the harness off the door jam, and some of the pins were ******* corroded. I bought a used male harness, but it seems there's some corrosion on the female part... Unless someone sells me a female harness, i'm just gonna chop off the harness and directly attach the wires, which I'll do during the summer when I have a little bit more time.
as for my previous post, I finally figured out what my problem was. I pulled out the harness off the door jam, and some of the pins were ******* corroded. I bought a used male harness, but it seems there's some corrosion on the female part... Unless someone sells me a female harness, i'm just gonna chop off the harness and directly attach the wires, which I'll do during the summer when I have a little bit more time.