Marcel Burkett

Anyone replace their power steering loop cooler thing with a true cooler ? what are the pros and cons ? post pics if you can .

HDP

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Agentspeed did when he had his 7. Do a search for his thread.

dgeesaman

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Pros: cooler ps fluid.

Cons: unnecessary.

Marcel Burkett

necessary if mine is bent and flattened out like it is !

dubulup

Power steering cooler for those v mount guys:

DGblk93

Agentspeed did a setup using an inline transmission cooler. He posted his writeup on the nopistons forum here:

http://www.nopistons.com/forums/inde...3871&hl=cooler

I'm still considering this b/c I have the same problem with my lowered car and the v-mount setup

dgeesaman

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Well then a stock replacement shouldn't be too hard or expensive to find.

Marcel Burkett

I am very much aware of this . do U have a problem with doing upgrades to your 7 , I always try to do an upgrade when I can , thanks.

dgeesaman

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An upgrade is only an upgrade if it improves performance or longevity. If it doesn't it's a waste of money, and in this case additional weight. That's my philosophy, and I think it's a very well grounded one.

I don't think anyone EVER has performance or longevity problems with their power steering system. So what would an aftermarket ps cooler do for you?

Dave

Sled Driver

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RIGHT ON!!!

Just because it's differant, doesn't make it better.

Looks to me like your just looking to add more CRAP to your sig.

gracer7-rx7

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Since we're on this topic, can someone please post a pic of what the stock power steering oil cooler lines look like?

I'm got a FMIC that I'm removing and want to revert to the stock lines if I can identify them in the pile of odd looking parts that I have.

Thanks.

Marcel Burkett

Can you prove this , how exactly do you know that there would be no benefit ? why do corvettes, BMW's and Porsches use "proper " ps coolers ?

Marcel Burkett

Seems like you have a problem with my sig ?

dgeesaman

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I think if you understood what power steering fluid does, you would realize the burden of proof is on you if you believe 'upgrading' the cooler will do something useful. Because in my personal experience, and in several years on this forum, I've never seen the power steering pumps have heat related problems.

On other cars, perhaps it's more of an issue. Comparing to other cars is always apples and oranges; I should not need to explain that.

Dave

the_glass_man

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Just rip it out. No more worrying about the fluid!

Marcel Burkett

Ok then so let me get this straight ...., I wanting to replace my damaged oem ps pos loop thing indicates that I do not understand "what power steering fluid does" ? WHAT A CROCK OF **** ! .
Seeing that I am totally ignorant to "what power steering fluid does" , would you be so as kind to explain it to me ? and at the same time would you explain why "On other cars, perhaps it's more of an issue. " , 'cause me with my limited knowledge about power steering fluid just cant see ANY difference what so ever in a standard power assisted steering system wheather its on a Mazda, BMW , Jaguar or a Datsun ! in fact I think the rotary shoild have the better cooler because of the extreme underhood temps ! , but what de hell do I know ?

CMonakar

For me it would be worthwhile to replace it with something more compact so I could clean up the duct work in front of the radiator a bit. Also most of the original stock units I have seen recently look like they came out of the bottom of a creek. Not exactly the nicest thing to see when looking at the front of the car. I think this topic has some value.

dontlift

Gracer, are you looking for pix of the stock P/S cooler or the lines to it???

dgeesaman

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The gap in understanding lies in that you believe you need a cooler, but you don't know what your power steering fluid temperatures are. There is also no evidence of overheating or underperformance with the stock system.

My point is that so far is absolutely no reason has been presented to believe the end result will be better. Decisions based on reasoning indicate understanding.

Those loop type cooler lines are durable and lightweight. You can mash them up and they still won't leak until they are actually bent and pinched. I would not install something more heavy, expensive, with more connections, and less durable.

By all means you can install whatever you want. But it won't make a difference, IMO.

Dave

KINETIK_FD3S

when i made the v-mount i used a stock FD automatic transmission cooler and mounted it on the right side vent since i only have one cooler for the engine, almost a year and a half and no problems since.

gracer7-rx7

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I suppose both. I haven't seen a car running the stock setup in so long I forgot what it looked like!

I suppose that length of hard tubing you posted was the P/S cooler? It just looks like some hard lines which I suppose act as a cooling mechanism.

Mine are floating around over the under tray. That is where the previous owner's mechanics left them...

If I can't easily figure it out, I'll spend the coin on a cheap cooler from Summit and run my own lines along with the custom vmount I hope to install in the next month.

Marcel Burkett

And how do you know that I (or you for that matter ) dont need a cooler , do you know the temperature the fluid runs at ? , I think I'm safer going with all the automotive engineers who decided to install coolers on the majourity of high performance , quality vehicles.
Spending 60 or even 100 dollars on a good cooler is a lot cheaper than replacing or servicing the power stering rack , in my humble opinion .

dontlift

Yeah, that's pretty much it: U-shaped tubing held in front of the a/c condenser by a bracket.

DREYKO

Im sorry but yes it would be completely pointless, the only real reason i could possibly see for this would be if you absolutly could not source the stock parts needed for this, otherwise you are wasting your money and weighing down your car.
if it was truly a problem youd see posts every so often about overheated ps pumps. i say put it back to stock or pull the useless ps anyway (how often do you parrallel park your 7 anyway)

but by all means dont mind me and do it anyway to prove you can

scotty305

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The CF-body www.7parts.com racecar used a PS cooler. He was running very wide tires, and autocrossing requires a constant flurry of steering inputs. I never thought to ask exactly what made him decide to install an aftermarket cooler. He was adding hundreds of pounds of ballast to meet the minimum weight requirements for the class, so I'm sure he wasn't concerned about the weight of the system.


Here's a photo:





I agree with dgeesaman: I've never seen or heard any indication that the OEM cooler needs to be upgraded for reasons other than wanting to fill that space with something else (radiator, FMIC, etc...)

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