FDNewbie

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Guys,

We're finally in the works of putting together a loooong overdue and much needed registry of all the FDs in the country.

The sticky thread is for information ONLY please. Info and comments can be found and made at https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=387559 and https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=386003

I only started this thread because I realized that ever since the thread got stickied, no one has posted and probably seen it haha. So please contribute to the Registry by clicking here: https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-gen-general-discussion-322/3rd-gen-registry-information-only-please-388436/, and hopefully soon, we'll have an actual database of the FDs registered in the US.

As a reminder, PLEASE INCLUDE THE VIN. IF YOU DO NOT HAVE THE VIN WITH YOU, PLEASE WAIT UNTIL YOU DO TO POST. A POST W/O A VIN DEFEATS THE ENTIRE PURPOSE OF THE REGISTRY. Thanks

~Ramy

Sled Driver

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Also should include Build Date.

This would give you an idea of when certain VIN #'s were built.

rotorsownyou7

Whoops. I didn't put my VIN# and I don't even know it. My car will be back by the end of this week though.

jimlab

Well, those FDs whose owners are on the forum and happen to respond, at any rate.

BTW, by handing out valid vehicle identification numbers in a sticky thread you're making it even easier for someone to set up fake auctions on ebay and other car sites. Since you probably have no way of validating VINs anyway, short of running them all on CarFax, you should probably consider limiting that information to the serial number portion of the VIN only.

turbojeff

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Good idea. Basically you could just leave out the "check digit" on the VIN.

For a 93 JM1FD331_P0201442, the underscore is the only part of the VIN that is different from any other US model except the last 5 digits.

rotoboy661

damn it woops

thanx for the warning guys

good lookin out

FDNewbie

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Good point. I'll tell Christian (Railgun69), and if you guys PM him the build date (or your VIN if you left it out) he can have the mods edit your post and include it.

Jim, that's a good point, but we're not trying to keep it as a sticky for long. Once people get encouraged to add to the registry, we'd like to set up a secure database, rather than just have this info left on display in the forum

Jeff, that check digit idea is a good idea, but the prob comes in later on when you actually want to use the registry to identify a car. But I guess it would still work since the last 5 digits are always unique?

Christian, what do you think?

Railgun

True. But it's a start.

Good points. I will get that in the works. I'll send a PM to some mods to take care of it. As far as the DB goes, I would imagine that it will have the complete VIN and again, I will take measures of security. I'll try to get that up as soon as I can, but in the mean time, we can continue to add to this thread. I certainly didn't mean to undermine anyone's privacy in this regard.

I like the build date idea as well. This is a growing process too, so not every detail will be included off the bat. I will start a spreadsheet tonight and start outlining every piece of info that should be included. I'll look around at other registries as well to guide that. I'm new at doing anything like this, and needless to say I appreciate the comments thus far and any in the future, good or bad. I'm all for constructive criticism, so long as it's tactful.

Section8

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This is an interesting idea, but we'll never have a complete database because there will always be hundreds of owners who either bought the car because it looked cool and know nothing about it (and don't care to know anything about it) and who also don't frequent the internet.

Railgun

For those who aren't online, I'm not worried about that as I hope that subsequent contact with the DMVs will result in a better than 85% report. That is, of vehicles that are still on the road.

Yup, I'm somtimes and optimist.

FDNewbie

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Well that's one point. The other point is, most of these guys are selling their cars nowadays, since it's simply become an old fun car that they really don't drive much, esp. if it starts to give them problems. And the likelihood that a younger individual from the forum (or who will join the forum) will be the purchaser is quite high IMO.

Oh Joey's a HUGE pessimist... j/k

scotty305

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It would be interesting to somehow find out the percentage of FD3S owners who are also rx7club.com members... but I'd rather not put out my entire VIN for all to see.

-s-

FDNewbie

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Railgun's having people post the VINs w/o the check digit, and just PM him the check digit, as he's exporting the info to form the secure database.

Railgun, on that note, not to add to your workload lol but you might wanna go back and remove the check digits from the VINs already listed, AFTER you note them on the database, of course

FDNewbie

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ttt

jsplit

Railgun, check your email / pm's

FDNewbie

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ttt...3 pages and counting

USCmatt

41 so far. Let's keep it rolling

FDNewbie

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ttt

USCmatt

bump

FDNewbie

iTrader: (10)

up you go...

FDNewbie

iTrader: (10)

bump

AgentSpeed

nevermind my thoughts on this...I doubt I'll participate...sorry

FDNewbie

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Since I saw your original comment in the notification email, check out this post: https://www.rx7club.com/showpost.php...6&postcount=32 That's why we're leaving out the check digit, and Railgun's actually working on getting the secure database up and running ASAP, so it won't be posted for all to see. Hopefully you'll want to join the [secure] database when it's up and running?

RotorMotor

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some creative criticism.... first of all im worried about the safety factor as agent speed pointed out... i have no knowledge of how the DMV database works, and what info you can retrieve from it... but he mentioned that you can get vehicle info w/ a partial vin, so id be a little worried too.

second thing... what makes you think some database on the internet will capture all/many of the cars left out there so we have an idea of whats left? isnt that the purpose of this database? so we know whats left? how would you distinguish between a car that isnt in the database, and a car that has been totaled long ago??

thirdly, for arguments sake lets say we COULD get a good representation for how many FD's are left out there... what about when joe-16-yr-old goes and drives one into a brick wall drifting?? that car would somehow need to be updated on the list a "deceased" (along with joe hehe).

not to discourage your hard work.... im all for it and will most definatly register both my FD's... but before jumping into this we should think of the logistics of accomplishing what we are setting out to do. is there some way to use DMV records to populate a list? i bet even the dmv doesnt know whats left out there however.

ok so... all negativity aside... what can i offer to improve this list?? well lets see... we will need to involve more people than are on rx7club... meaning nopistons, and any other forums out there. it would be nice to get links put up on the various FD parts pages (rx7store.net, pineapple, Rotary extreem, pettit, etc etc etc) to get the word out.

Also what about having a webpage where we could add a picture of our FD (and a blurb about it if you want or whatever)... and also select the state you are in (so we can have an idea of where all these FD generally are). also it would be nice to have a deceased list for cars that get killed and need to be removed from the "living FD" list. if you had it in a webpage format it would make it A) more interesting cause we could have pictures or info on the car B) more informative and easier to collect various info such as state C) to register all you would need to get an account is a valid mazda vin#... obviously the vin should NOT be displayed for public viewing... but be securely stored by whoever is maintaining the registry.

obviously this is no easy task... BUT there were only so many FD's produced, and in small numbers unlike mustangs... so it may be dooable. this will take TONS of work to do and maintain.... so make sure this is something you really feel a passion for, so it will not dissolve in a year. just my 2 cents. -heath

Railgun

To that, one of the threads I had mentiond that the IN DMV would supply that information. Whether I get the VIN or not is TBD. From a serurity/safety standpoint, ultimately I don't think it matters. If someone were interested in using this in a negative way, they certainly wouldn't need to have a list of VINs. There are ways around it.

It's not some DB that I'm looking at, it's current DMV records to indicate what's currently registered. I bet that there's a larger percentage of cars that are registered than aren't. I car that has been registered and totaled should drop out of the system shortly after that reg. expires. This isn't a perfect system as I mentioned, but it will be close. In this case, close counts.

On the assumption of getting contact info for all these, I'd hope that we'd be able to keep track of things like this. Perhaps yearly updates from the admins of this list and quarter;y or semi annual updated from the owners themselves will help with the integrity of the list.

Each DMV like I said will have records. I'm not expecting every FD to have ever existed be found in these records. IE I'm sure that Damian's track car isn't registered. But I know that it exists, so there's +1. See what I mean? It's not going to be 100%, but it will be pretty close.

Of course. This process just started, so there's a way to go. I posted a copy of what I emailed my DMV and their response. I had asked owners in their respective states to do the same. I can't do this for each DMV. I'd get writers cramp.

Already done and will be launched quite soon. This, unknown to me, was already in the works but not mentioned as the person doing was working on the backend functionality first. I jumped the gun and did this first and he contacted me about it. Couldn't have worked out any better if you ask me. It will be a restricted site allowing only owners access to see the information. The front end is awesome. The site looks really cool. Stay tuned for that.

Thanks for the comments. I appreciate your concerns (and everyone else's) and hope that everyone "participates." This isn't just a fad. I'm going to follow this to the end. Constructive criticism is always good and I think I can do a good enough job to dispell some of the negative things that may arise from this. This is for all of us, but because I'm bored and felt like it.

The ball is rolling. How long it will take it up in the air. Depends on how many people help and how many hinder. But I think we'll all get lucky and it will work out in the end.