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Old Nov 14, 2010 | 09:32 PM
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Even of the fact that this car is basically brand new, someone will spend a ridiculous amount of money for one, even though its not even worth it, but 80 is going a long way. 40k is where it should top at for a pristine FD like this.
Not gonna lie, if some japanese fella posts up a Spirit-R for sale in a few years (once they're legal to import to canada) and its basically just been sitting in his collection and is virtually brand new, I would probably pay some ridiculous sum to obtain it....maybe not 80K but around 40K perhaps, just because of nostalgia and whatnot.

Kinda like how baby boomers are going back and buying up their old 'cudas from when they were kids and restoring them at prices that just don't make sense for any reason other then sentimentality.

But i certainly see the point you were making.
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Old Nov 15, 2010 | 12:51 PM
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It might be worth 80k to somebody though and there are many people in the world with more money than brains.

I would pay quite a bit of cash to get my 93' RHD J-Spec back to the states REGISTERED LEGALLY, she just broke 92,000km.
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Old Feb 13, 2011 | 12:14 AM
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This car is the same one that was on Ebay, it is from Florida as was stated and has original EVERYTHING. Only 250 miles. From what I've heard its not for sale.
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Old Feb 13, 2011 | 02:14 AM
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If you guys consider inflation, 40,679 in 1992 is about 61000-62000 in todays money.
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Old Feb 13, 2011 | 03:39 PM
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Yea your right it isn't for sale... They just through a random number at me...

It's funny.. I now work there, and walk by it everyday. Lets just say it gets dusted very often.
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Old Feb 13, 2011 | 11:01 PM
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This makes me wonder if Mazda would still honor the factory 3yr 50k warranty?
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Old Feb 13, 2011 | 11:30 PM
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This car will only be at its most rare if NO ONE EVER buys it.
Let it stay right where it is forever and we will be more amzed by it as the decades roll by...
Some rich ******** buys it bcuz its rare then it'll never be as rare as it is now when nobody (the dealer) owns it.
The dealer retires, then he'll sell it.
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Old Feb 14, 2011 | 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Supernaut
Clean MB paint is awesome. Yea there is an automatic red FD also in a show room as well isn't there?
Yes there is a red one as well that Mazda claims is the last FD imported into North America with 0 miles on it. It was sitting at Mazda South in Austin Texas for a few months and apparently moved around Mazda dealerships in the country. I saw it personally.
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Old Feb 14, 2011 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by t-von
This makes me wonder if Mazda would still honor the factory 3yr 50k warranty?
I believe they're supposed to because warranties go into effect when they are sold.
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Old Feb 14, 2011 | 08:54 PM
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Problems with a brand new 93-95 FD:

1) Should trash the pre-cat immediately & replace with a DP.
2) Should swap the fan thermoswitch for an FC type.
3) Should replace the fiberboard lower LIM gasket with the upgraded stainless steel part.
4) Should remove and block off the EGR valve (94-95).
5) Should perform "fuel system recall" with fan mods (if a '93).
6) Should delete the AWS (optional, I guess).

... Just my personal experience with a '94...
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Old Feb 14, 2011 | 10:09 PM
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Does the original LIM gasket just go bad?
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Old Feb 14, 2011 | 10:58 PM
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6) Should delete the AWS (optional, I guess).

There is absolutely nothing wrong with the AWS system. The reasons most here eliminate that system is due to their lack of knowledge and thinking it harms the engine. Well I have the experience with my engine to tell you it doesn't. It does no harm to the engine or bearings. My original engine with over 108k proves this. It's been broken down and inspected. It can actually be beneficial to helping slow the build-up of carbon.


Sorry for the rant!
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Old Feb 14, 2011 | 10:59 PM
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Does the original LIM gasket just go bad?

No!
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Old Feb 15, 2011 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by wstrohm
Problems with a brand new 93-95 FD:

1) Should trash the pre-cat immediately & replace with a DP.
2) Should swap the fan thermoswitch for an FC type.
3) Should replace the fiberboard lower LIM gasket with the upgraded stainless steel part.
4) Should remove and block off the EGR valve (94-95).
5) Should perform "fuel system recall" with fan mods (if a '93).
6) Should delete the AWS (optional, I guess).

... Just my personal experience with a '94...
so the first thing you would do to an all-original FD is mod it and destroy it's originality?

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Old Feb 15, 2011 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by wstrohm
Problems with a brand new 93-95 FD:

1) Should trash the pre-cat immediately & replace with a DP.
2) Should swap the fan thermoswitch for an FC type.
3) Should replace the fiberboard lower LIM gasket with the upgraded stainless steel part.
4) Should remove and block off the EGR valve (94-95).
5) Should perform "fuel system recall" with fan mods (if a '93).
6) Should delete the AWS (optional, I guess).

... Just my personal experience with a '94...

aaand... the value of this rare FD just went to ****
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Old Feb 15, 2011 | 07:11 PM
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Just buy it, and take it directly to barret jackson for some real estate mogul to overpay for it. Then take that money and put it into your existing FD
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Old Feb 15, 2011 | 07:45 PM
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If money were no object I would but it and do a transmission swap, then enjoy it. Of course that would probably void the warranty that Mazda would reluctantly have to provide.
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Old Feb 16, 2011 | 01:11 PM
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Does the original LIM gasket just go bad?
It did on our '94, but then the idle didn't start rising uncontrollably until about 98 K miles. The vacuum leak from the fried fiberboard was causing it.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with the AWS system. The reasons most here eliminate that system is due to their lack of knowledge and thinking it harms the engine. Well I have the experience with my engine to tell you it doesn't. It does no harm to the engine or bearings. My original engine with over 108k proves this. It's been broken down and inspected. It can actually be beneficial to helping slow the build-up of carbon.
I agree, there is nothing "wrong" with it. But it is completely unnecessary. The fast idle can be properly set with its own provided adjustments, after removing the AWS. That system is there to reduce emissions when the engine is cold. But the 3000 rpm cold idle is a PITA, and I consider an FD with it unacceptable (just me). And our engine has 103+Kmiles on it and runs beautifully.
so the first thing you would do to an all-original FD is mod it and destroy it's originality?
Yep, in order to gain reliability, reduce the cabin temperature, and remove annoyances.
aaand... the value of this rare FD just went to ****
As Ayn Rand once wrote, 'value' pre-supposes the answers to the questions "For what?" and "To whom?" Price due to rarity is artificial and unrelated to my standards for a car. The value to me would go up, although you are right that the resale price would no doubt go down. Not an issue, since I own an FD with the mods I listed, and consider it a better car than the 'brand new' one in this thread, auto vs manual tranny issue aside.
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Old Feb 16, 2011 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by wstrohm
As Ayn Rand once wrote, 'value' pre-supposes the answers to the questions "For what?" and "To whom?" Price due to rarity is artificial and unrelated to my standards for a car. The value to me would go up, although you are right that the resale price would no doubt go down. Not an issue, since I own an FD with the mods I listed, and consider it a better car than the 'brand new' one in this thread, auto vs manual tranny issue aside. .
Now if you don't care about that it's fine and better car or not, it also clear that it is the worst financial move you could do ever do with an FD. Quite foolish as why you would pay top dollar for the state that the car is in, only to change that the minute you get your hands on it. In other words you would change that exact thing you that you just payed your *** of for . Yah makes total sense. It even makes less sense when you realize that you could purchase another FD for MUCH less and do the things you want without losing much money at all.

So I state again: aaand... the value of this rare FD just went to **** lol
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Old Feb 16, 2011 | 04:23 PM
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ah yes, before I ever lay a wrench to my car I always stop and ask myself" "what would Ayn Rand do?"

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Old Feb 16, 2011 | 05:02 PM
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I agree with black Robert Downey Jr.
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Old Feb 16, 2011 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Montego
Now if you don't care about that it's fine and better car or not, it also clear that it is the worst financial move you could do ever do with an FD. Quite foolish as why you would pay top dollar for the state that the car is in, only to change that the minute you get your hands on it. In other words you would change that exact thing you that you just payed your *** of for . Yah makes total sense. It even makes less sense when you realize that you could purchase another FD for MUCH less and do the things you want without losing much money at all.

So I state again: aaand... the value of this rare FD just went to **** lol
Pretty lame argument all around
If you're buying it because it's a collector's piece, then you'd store it instead of driving it. Then none of the modifications would be useful and active enjoyment would be impossible. But the value would be maintained.
If you're not buying it as a collector's piece for storage, the value of the "rare FD" just went to **** anyway (relatively speaking) once you drove it for 100 or 1000 kms so doing some reliability mods isn't going to hurt anything
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Old Feb 16, 2011 | 06:38 PM
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Pretty lame argument all around
If you're buying it because it's a collector's piece, then you'd store it instead of driving it. Then none of the modifications would be useful and active enjoyment would be impossible. But the value would be maintained.
If you're not buying it as a collector's piece for storage, the value of the "rare FD" just went to **** anyway (relatively speaking) once you drove it for 100 or 1000 kms so doing some reliability mods isn't going to hurt anything
Not sure what your point is. As somethings are just universally understood.

This is the equivalent of me describing how to get to Alaska from CA, and only for you to point out how I didn't mention to put gas on the car. Of course the only way the car holds it's value is by not driving it... jesus
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Old Feb 16, 2011 | 06:57 PM
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I only see this being of value to a dealership, museum or company. (keeping it unregistered)

It should be kept as an automotive art piece to show what Mazda was made of in the peak of their excellence. This would make an awesome center piece for a niche collector car company.

I'd love to walk into a dealership or auto museum & see something as perfect as that car.

I hope this car gets moved behind sone nice velvet rope, so people keep their dirty hands off of it.
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Old Feb 16, 2011 | 07:44 PM
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is the factory warranty still good?
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